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VOTE: t3
Shoot Farren.

Hell VC2.FINAL

Released in 1985. No one lives forever.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to send someone to Hell

T3 (4):

Morning Tweet, Farren, redtea, T3

Not Voting:

flow trap, Esooa, Dannflor

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-08-08 22:30:00)

Mod Notes:

Hell VC3.00

Released in 1983.

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to send someone to Hell

Not Voting:

flow trap, Dannflor, Morning Tweet, Farren, redtea

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-08-12 20:00:00)

Mod Notes:

Nicely done Ich! I'm really happy you made that choice

I was torn between sending flow or Esooa as my pick personally

This is getting pretty reminiscent of another purgatory...

Can scum dodge two more eliminations? It's not terribly likely.

I think flow's read of T3 reads as extremely poor in hindsight.

I wonder if redtea's outburst yesterday means it's redtea/flow/Esooa. Cause actually T3 getting eliminated -> scum being judged -> this gamestate is really bad. Whereas if Dann died, that would have been potentially winning if T3 or Farren got elimed

Actually flow and redtea both made little sense with T3, right? Stupid, stupid me for letting T3 blind my view of the gamestate.

Yeah that's probably my guess then. Farren, Dann, you both town?

Yes. Although I'm beginning to think I need to double-check my role PM, because I've been wrong about everything else; why not that too?

Which means major re-evaluation, and this is a lousy time to do it from a RL perspective. But I will make the time somehow.

In post 1333, Morning Tweet wrote:I think flow's read of T3 reads as extremely poor in hindsight.

Your push on T3 felt like a scum push so I tried to throw a wrench in the plan

Also, you say T3 is scummy for pushing the most viable elimination, but like then you push T3 who could also be the most viable elimination; you said it yourself:

In post 1222, Morning Tweet wrote:T3 on post 200 would be okay with the possibility of having to carry his team

when he has a history of being eliminated in every game he's ever played.

In post 1333, Morning Tweet wrote:Stupid, stupid me for letting T3 blind my view of the gamestate.

This sounds forced imo

redtea's outburst had the effect of getting the wagon off of T3 - which was a good thing, even if it didn't pan out. Why does that indicate redtea/flow trap/Esooa?

PEdit> to Morning Tweet.

Lol so you whiteknighted T3 because you thought I was scum

Also my point about T3 blindly voting Farren is that T3's reads shifted depending on what was most convenient for keeping himself alive. He did this all game where he claimed to townread or scumread whoever he needed to in order to try and not die. I'm not saying it's inherently scummy to vote for the most suspected player lul

In post 1337, Farren wrote:redtea's outburst had the effect of getting the wagon off of T3 - which was a good thing, even if it didn't pan out. Why does that indicate redtea/flow trap/Esooa?

PEdit> to Morning Tweet.

Had town!Dann been eliminated, we would have gone to judgement phase and if Farren/T3 been judged we would have lost.

However since town!T3 was eliminated, we didn't have to deal with him during the judgement phase. It was better for town to kill T3 there. I'm also taking into account that redtea's reasoning for the push on Dann was fairly reachy.

In post 1338, Morning Tweet wrote:Lol so you whiteknighted T3 because you thought I was scum

More like I felt it was a scumpush and yours felt the worst :3

Also flow where was the suspicion on me yesterday? If you thought the T3 push was scum-motivated... why not come out and say it?

All you did was say "Actually your reasons for scumreading T3 are bad" which A.) did nothing to change anything and B.) seems very hard for me to believe you came to the conclusion that T3 was your likeliest town, as town

T3 legitimately could not have played in a scummier manner

Monring, when did you start to SR me

I see a part on day one where redtea hadn't entered the thread yet... and they would have been killed if not for an unvote by flow. What a coincidence (pages 19-23ish)

In post 1342, flow trap wrote:Monring, when did you start to SR me

As soon as T3 flipped town

On your own I read you as null since i don't really get your play, but associative-wise with T3 you look insanely poor

In post 1341, Morning Tweet wrote:T3 legitimately could not have played in a scummier manner

To you

You had T3 as your strongest heavenable town but when pressed you said "Idk he seemed relaxed i forget"

It's not even so much that townreading T3 in of itself is a problem (although i find it questionable), it's just that you had absolutely zero backing to the read whatsoever yet you blindly defended him against all accusations, even reasonable ones.

That makes a lot more sense from whiteknighting scum than actually solving town, no?

You also didn't say jack about suspecting the push on him up til now which I find.. odd

In post 1343, Morning Tweet wrote:I see a part on day one where redtea

hadn't entered the thread yet...

and they would have been killed if not for an unvote by flow. What a coincidence

(pages 19-23ish)

I bolded the explanations, you're grasping

In post 1346, Morning Tweet wrote:You had T3 as your strongest heavenable town but when pressed you said "Idk he seemed relaxed i forget"

And you said "lm*o yall are killing me this game" instead of pushing my response then

Redtea would be dead rn if not for you because Ich thought they hammered when it was actually X-2. You left redtea's wagon before then. Not a super strong point but something i found funny

I scumread T3 and read you and T3 as not being together. I also kinda sheeped Ich on you being town at that point in my catchup. Do you not see why your interactions with town!T3 are abysmal?