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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:22 am
by Rogue
I mean that’s cool and all I’m just walking you through my trajectory from yesterday, but go off?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:33 am
by That Idiot Ivan
Go off where? I'm stating that I never claimed to be unlimited. Your trajectory yesterday was mostly 'PT spy-like role scary!'
This:
In post 987, Rogue wrote:Ivan makes sense to me as a PT spy. Especially given my read on you guys and your claim plus info we know, it just doesn’t seem likely that there’s a parity cop, who also creates a neighborhood with multiple other people to become masons?
and this:
In post 1028, Rogue wrote:If 1024 is some shit about how he’s solving in the hood I swear to god I’m nuking that shit from existence.
I’m not playing this “so and so is so town in the hood” game.
Are the last things you had to say about me.
But noted. Where are your other reads right now?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:47 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Understood.
By the way, this day doesn't end until I say so, understood? I have things I need to work out in private... but all will be revealed soon enough.
Cakez, you're up next with a full claim.
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:03 am
by SirCakez
I am r/AccidentalRenaissance
as of right now I am a VT but my role says that I can unlock new parts of my role somehow?? and that I will be told when I do? but it doesn't say how to do that
so I need y'alls help lol
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:04 am
by SirCakez
rogue's claim doesn't really change much I don't think??
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:16 am
by The Bombay
Ugh.
I feel like I should just come back to this game whenever this happens.
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I do still want clarification from StrangeMatter regarding my earlier question though.
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:17 am
by The Bombay
In post 1, morph the cat wrote:7. This game may have a [Talk with the Dead and/or Spectators] mechanic. DO NOT talk about this game anywhere else, or with anyone else outside of this game thread and any private topics we may make accessible to you during the game.
@Cakez, so far no one has claimed or flipped with anything related to this. So maybe you have to die.
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:24 am
by SirCakez
NO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKS
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:24 am
by SirCakez
I don't think anyone else's role interacts with mine
rather I think I need to do something on my end to make it work
BUT WHAT??
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:28 am
by That Idiot Ivan
What are your reads overall, Cakez? Or game thoughts?
(I know we're waiting for T3's claim, but I'd like to use this time while we sit around)
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:38 am
by SirCakez
well obviously seems pretty likely Rogue is scum
I'd like to say it's just easy and T3 is the third scum but mafia is rarely that easy
if not T3 then I think it has to be Bombay for the third scum? assuming the LLD-Shiro-you block is all actually town
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:39 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
And yes, T3 Claim next with Night actions as well
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:39 am
by SirCakez
strangematter would be town for guilty-ing Rogue scum
mastina was the counter to Suri-scum
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:59 am
by That Idiot Ivan
You don't think you were the counter to Suripoko-scum? And why do you think I'm town?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:11 am
by SirCakez
There can be two counters no?
I don't think this game makes any sense if you're scum
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:31 pm
by Rogue
In post 1101, That Idiot Ivan wrote:Once the day ends, my role targets two players to neighborize in one neighborhood. They get immediate access to post. I'm informed of who's been chosen, and then I decide if I want to use any of my powers. Yes, powers, plural. All are one-shot. Once I submit an action or declare I'm taking no action, I gain viewing access to the PT. I can post from then on if I choose, but if I've chosen to take an action, that action is blocked if I post before night ends/mods clear me. Neighborhood dissolves when the following day phase ends and the process repeats.
Key info there is that my parity cop is one-shot and I have no control over who gets targeted for my neighborhoods. Given info is stronger early game and both targeted players were on a town wagon flip, I opted to use the parity cop shot N1. Hence not being concerned about being blocked in the future. That isn't my only one-shot power, but it's definitely my best one.
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:33 pm
by Rogue
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY
MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS
OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)
OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:33 pm
by Rogue
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY
MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS
OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)
OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:33 pm
by Rogue
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY
MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS
OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)
OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:33 pm
by Rogue
Well work internet knows all the value of my anger
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:37 pm
by T3
In post 1316, Rogue wrote:We’re arcane.
We had a choice pregame of Piltover or Zaun. Piltover made us an inventor with an activatable commute and PGO.
But fuck Piltover.
We are a doctor who delays death a la the bleed out mechanic. Aka, the “alternative kill” that Shiro can stop. My guess is scum have a strongman and our combo can beat out the strongman to guarantee results. This is part of why I was so skeptical of Ivan once all the claims were out there, because with me around it already felt busted as fuck.
I didn’t mind the watcher claim as o it role seems like a decent workaround to the busted combination.
So yeah.
We targeted Bombay N1, because they seemed solidly Town. I was basically in the same boat as they were re protective decisions N1, after day one I kinda had squick feels about LLD.
Last night I tried to protect LLD.
oHhHhH
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:58 pm
by StrangeMatter
In post 1302, The Bombay wrote: In post 1199, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm a jail keeper with a hammer ability special where I block indirect kills if I hammer scum.
@StrangeMatter
What does it mean that you block indirect kills? Why are you so invested in activating this ability when we have yet to have more then one kill in a night?
Indirect kills is I get to stop poisons, arsons, and anything that doesn't immediately kill from what I asked the mod about this part.
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:08 pm
by The Bombay
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:23 pm
by The Bombay
Yeah we're clowning I think.
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:15 am
by mastina
Yup!
In post 1309, The Bombay wrote:How did Mastina know that she was being made loyal by Shiro in order to include it in her message to LLD during the night?
Uh I can share this but I'm not sure if it's public or not and if it's not I would need permission to do so. But, suffice to say: I had a way to know Shiro was making me loyal.
In post 1327, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:By the way, this day doesn't end until I say so, understood? I have things I need to work out in private... but all will be revealed soon enough.
(This would be why I am not voting--I haven't done my full solve work yet, I did some preliminary work last night but I kinda am figuring that you have done more work there than I have and am waiting for you to give your thoughts and then I can give my thoughts on that to build off of it more or less.)
That said it's looking pretty damn likely that T3's scum, stalling here.
There's a high chance Bombay is town; there's a high chance StrangeMatter is town; LLD is conftown; Shiro is conftown; I am conftown; that leaves 2/4 of {SirCakez, T3, That Idiot Ivan, Rogue} as scum.
T3's looking pretty damn likely.
SirCakez imo has a fairly high chance of being scum.
Ivan has high scum equity with SirCakez but less otherwise imo.
Rogue might not be confscum but shouldn't be allowed to live to mylo/lylo. With 2/9 as scum, that means that in the worst case scenario of a town elimination and a town nightkill going through, we need to kill them either today or tomorrow imo.
I realize that we theoretically in the best case scenario have enough mislims to go through all four but sadly the game's not autowin (for ~reasons~). So I'm treating things as if we only have three, which means that we need to determine the least-scum of the four candidates imo and then of the three remaining, what the best order of elimination would be. (Rogue would need to be either first or second thanks to the result probably.)