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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:51 pm
by Save The Dragons
can you explain it somehow

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:53 pm
by Save The Dragons
@norbear

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:53 pm
by Roden
In post 1322, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1285, Grendel wrote:Oh Save the Dragons! You'd said prevously you had SR Rodan frequently in previous games. Is it ok to ask for some examples?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87368 roden scum and i scumread him

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87504 roden town and i scumread him

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87201 roden and i were scum together didn't really scum read him
Can you explain what's similar to my scum games there that is pinging you in this game?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:57 pm
by Save The Dragons
i mean you said this
In post 576, Roden wrote:[STD's] gut read on me feels iffy since he should know my scum play is different than this
which is the point i believe you're trying to make now

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:59 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1321, The Three Bears wrote:cephy if you could dayvig someone who wasn't me right now, who would it be
if you really have to ask this, i question whether you are reading the game.

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:00 pm
by The Three Bears
scum roden is trying to shake people off by being pleasant. There's a certain amount of like jokey stuff in there.
town roden is just like what the fuck why are your reasons shit.

this is town roden. im pretty certain of it.

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:00 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1324, Roden wrote:Ceph took a pot shot at me over a read Mastina made earlier and reignited our shit fight
ah yes i too remember when i drove to your house and held a gun to your head to force you to respond to a comment that wasn't directed at you

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:01 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 1329, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1321, The Three Bears wrote:cephy if you could dayvig someone who wasn't me right now, who would it be
if you really have to ask this, i question whether you are reading the game.
besides roden

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:01 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1332, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 1329, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1321, The Three Bears wrote:cephy if you could dayvig someone who wasn't me right now, who would it be
if you really have to ask this, i question whether you are reading the game.
besides roden
arcade, i guess?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:03 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 1333, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1332, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 1329, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1321, The Three Bears wrote:cephy if you could dayvig someone who wasn't me right now, who would it be
if you really have to ask this, i question whether you are reading the game.
besides roden
arcade, i guess?
besides arcade and ircher as well

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:05 pm
by Roden
Just realized you linked one of the IC games lol.
In post 1328, Save The Dragons wrote:i mean you said this
In post 576, Roden wrote:[STD's] gut read on me feels iffy since he should know my scum play is different than this
which is the point i believe you're trying to make now
I also said that in town games, so we already know that's NAI. What else?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:10 pm
by Roden
In post 1331, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1324, Roden wrote:Ceph took a pot shot at me over a read Mastina made earlier and reignited our shit fight
ah yes i too remember when i drove to your house and held a gun to your head to force you to respond to a comment that wasn't directed at you
What is the point of posts like these if not to start another shit fight?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:25 pm
by Save The Dragons
In post 1335, Roden wrote:I also said that in town games, so we already know that's NAI. What else?
where have you said that as town

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:29 pm
by The Three Bears
ok i finished history hw and math studying. i still have math hw and english hw
BUT i want to leave some final reads for the night
Roden TOWN tOWN TOWN
Mush .... scum?
Fenny scum (this one i will definitely explain tomorrow)

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:30 pm
by The Three Bears
ircher bell im on the fence. 2/3 heads i believe? think bell is town for activity. but now im questioning that. i kept feeling bell was towny in a way i couldn't explain but i often think that about scum so idk. idk
ircher im like hmm is that coming from town. i dont fucking know lmfao.
oh and TOOG SCUM.
pretty sure on that one i think.

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:32 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1334, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 1333, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1332, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 1329, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1321, The Three Bears wrote:cephy if you could dayvig someone who wasn't me right now, who would it be
if you really have to ask this, i question whether you are reading the game.
besides roden
arcade, i guess?
besides arcade and ircher as well
at that point i would have to reread the lurkers but gun to my head, meg replacement

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:32 pm
by Cephrir
In post 1336, Roden wrote:
In post 1331, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1324, Roden wrote:Ceph took a pot shot at me over a read Mastina made earlier and reignited our shit fight
ah yes i too remember when i drove to your house and held a gun to your head to force you to respond to a comment that wasn't directed at you
What is the point of posts like these if not to start another shit fight?
to defend myself against the aspersions being cast on my character

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:33 pm
by Cephrir
the roller coaster continues

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:40 pm
by Roden
In post 1337, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1335, Roden wrote:I also said that in town games, so we already know that's NAI. What else?
where have you said that as town
If I hunt through my town games to quote every instance of this, would it actually change your mind or would I be wasting my time?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:41 pm
by Roden
In post 1341, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1336, Roden wrote:
In post 1331, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1324, Roden wrote:Ceph took a pot shot at me over a read Mastina made earlier and reignited our shit fight
ah yes i too remember when i drove to your house and held a gun to your head to force you to respond to a comment that wasn't directed at you
What is the point of posts like these if not to start another shit fight?
to defend myself against the aspersions being cast on my character
Do you not see that I have done the exact same thing? Or that you just did the exact same thing you accused me of?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:41 pm
by Save The Dragons
i just want one

i don't think i'm asking for a lot here

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:52 pm
by Cephrir
i guess :/

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:53 pm
by Cephrir
VOTE: arcade

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:20 pm
by Toogeloo
There would have to be some cosmic humor in play if Dunn is once again scum while I am town. I'm not even sure what the odds could even be at this point.

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28 pm
by Roden
In post 1345, Save The Dragons wrote:i just want one

i don't think i'm asking for a lot here
In post 191, Roden wrote:Honestly LQ why are you scum reading me at all when you've recently seen two of my scum games in depth? You should know this isn't it from my opening posts alone.
Me vs scum shit pushing me after they got caught.

Can't quote from Scarlet Witch but you can just see my ISO there. I die Day 1 to a bunch of townies shit casing me and calling me guaranteed scum based on vibes. I also catch scum but I get called scummy and told my read is wrong, said scum read proceeds to endgame town and win.

Same with Chrono Trigger since it's also locked. Day 1 is rough again and I pretty thoroughly explain my meta to Noraa. She's been defending me so much this game exactly because of that game.
In post 390, Roden wrote:
In post 379, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 365, Galron wrote:What does that mean he failed the vibe check?
It means his vibes this game are terrible. Pretty much every time I've faced scum!Roden he's pinged me a certain way, and his comment about Enchant not pushing his reads hit that note.
...Except he didn't push his reads, and he got voted out for it. Do you actually think giving up and accepting his mis-elim was the optimal play here? Because the reason he got voted was exactly because of that. He was focused more on teasing quick hammers than actually scum hunting.

Also I'm just taking this stance from you as that you're either scum fake vibe checking me, or you're town and admitting that you don't actually know how to read me at all. I'm not nearly this aggressive and active as scum, and I would never try to inject life into a dead game. I also wouldn't ever try to give Enchant a chance to save himself by giving him as many outs as I did.

You're free to show examples comparing my actions this game to past scum games though.
In post 381, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 373, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 364, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Roden
you failed the vibe check
In post 340, Gamma Emerald wrote:But I do think kyouko hasn’t made much of a splash and might be scum as a result if enchant is town.
?
they can both be scum
Then why are you voting me on vibes and not Kyouko when you scum read her through meta?
In post 380, Almost50 wrote:Can anyone explain why Moz was the kill here? I don't see a crumb in his ISO, I don't think he made any serious reads, and I don't think he was globally TR'd even.
No idea tbh. Which is probably the point, it's a low info kill in a low info game. Scum probably just got lucky with Mozamis being a PR.
This game was extra fun because I had nearly the entire player list on my ass for most of the game, with three townies Gamma Galron and Penguin hard tunneling me. I still got fear killed by scum though.
In post 1553, Roden wrote:
In post 1550, T3 wrote:I don't know why scum didn't kill Roden but he's still locktown.
WIFOM + I've fake softed a role D1 before. Alternatively, scum has a Rolecop or something else that can check for specific roles, and they decided checking me first was a good idea.
In post 1551, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1549, Roden wrote:
In post 1544, Save The Dragons wrote:what if scum killed sb9 to let scumbuddy roden off the hook

or is that too paranoid
Off the hook how? I was gonna push sb9 next.
i mean he was gonna try to get you to claim today

now you don't have to

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
"Don't have to" lol I was never going to. He literally could not force me to claim. If I'm not at E-1, I don't have to claim, and he certainly wasn't gonna make that kind of push considering T3 was his only scum read and he did nothing to try to get him elim'd.

StD you're really not doing a lot to convince me you're town anymore because you already know my scum thought process. This isn't it, and your shade attempts on me don't look good.
Probably don't need to go into detail with this one.

Do you need more?