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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:16 am
by Vivax
In post 1324, Aisa wrote:
Spoiler: Fluff
Effort!Aisa was a no show, but don't worry, I've found a substitute. I'm really thankful to Apathy!Aisa for stepping in to take this at the last minute.
In post 1071, Enchant wrote:So anyway.

CSF flipping maf HIGHLY suggests that last scum outside of team 2, because... Bruh really, why mafia would put all teammates with self, it's critically dumb.
So let's give remainings of Team 2 conftown status and sheep them.

Thanks, now i can go gaming normal games.
In post 1293, Enchant wrote:You and Gamma conftown, so...
In post 1294, Enchant wrote:It's kinda you to decide.
Hmm... how does this make sense though? Why would you just sheep me and Gamma instead of trying to form your own reads?
In post 1317, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1314, Aisa wrote:Sorry RR! I'll do my best to avenge you.

I suppose could be Vivax.

Hey Math, what do you think of Andante/JohnnyFarrar?

Also I will be
LA from this Friday to Monday 6 pm BST
.
Townier than Vivax by a mile

I have RL today so this is going to have to do unless I get a chance over lunch until tomorrow.

VOTE: Vivax
What's towny about them? What's scummy about Vivax?
Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Don't feel bad for low efforting though. Game only becomes hard to me if MB doesn't flip red.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:54 am
by Aisa
I remember there was something I meant to bring up here but never did.
I previously brought this up in the PT, where everyone straight up ignored me (understandably). If I were more sensible I would probably have taken this as a sign to shut up and never bring this up again. Unfortunately for you all, I am not sensible and my heart will not let go of this, so... in a spoiler tag it goes:

Spoiler: ??
So! You've all been referring to the PT Gamma and I were in as "the past". Well no shit, that's where Pooky said we'd get sent, so imagine my confusion when I get access to this PT and it is called "the future" with basically no foreshadowing whatsoever.
But ejjinami also calls it "the future" in this post. I think that's what they meant at least.
95% this is just an odd coincidence, why would scum be more informed than town on this specific flavour detail? But also ?? nothing about this makes sense.

While I was reading that post I came across this which seems definitely worth commenting on:
In post 573, ejjinami wrote:[...]
In post 567, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:ohhhh okay then that simplifies things a bit, since we don't have to decide who goes into which group

so we basically pick our top 5 townreads I think
I don’t think that’s the mechanically correct thing to do
It “feels” like it’s the right thing but frankly, that may be a huge landmine
I’d at least seriously consider choosing people who’d give the most benefits from getting them in a PoE


I’d also consider what the benefits of having the same players on both teams are. Like- the team that remains in the present will surely have to do something as well

[...]
Yikes. This now looks pretty dodgy.
In post 593, ejjinami wrote:actually, EVERYONE should write what teams they want to be on.
This should be seriously taken into account.
Somewhat understandable, but also somewhat yikes

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:57 am
by Aisa
In post 1325, Vivax wrote:
In post 1324, Aisa wrote:[...]
Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Don't feel bad for low efforting though. Game only becomes hard to me if MB doesn't flip red.
I genuinely don't quite understand whether this is a joke.

In case it isn't: I guess that if you have genuine concerns they seem worth addressing. Why does that need to be unearthed?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:14 am
by Vivax
In post 1327, Aisa wrote:
In post 1325, Vivax wrote:
In post 1324, Aisa wrote:[...]
Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Don't feel bad for low efforting though. Game only becomes hard to me if MB doesn't flip red.
I genuinely don't quite understand whether this is a joke.

In case it isn't: I guess that if you have genuine concerns they seem worth addressing. Why does that need to be unearthed?
What I meant to say is that I don't find it worth to overthink the situation until we reach the spot where we lose from a mis-elim.
For now I'm mostly low efforting and just trying to kill everyone who wants to kill me because I'm assuming that's where the mafia is (thinking MB, JF). Subs are a succulent target.

I've been burned from putting high effort in games
almost
, almost designed to be unwinnable.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:20 am
by Aisa
Okok so
*deep breath*
I think I may have misunderstood what you meant which caused me to ask a question that did not make sense.
I think you then proceeded to rephrase the one line of your post which I did understand. Which is very much appreciated!

Could you please also explain/rephrase these two lines?
In post 1325, Vivax wrote: Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:24 am
by Aisa
Like what looks lazy? What is necessary to undig? Why is it necessary?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:26 am
by Vivax
In post 1329, Aisa wrote:Okok so
*deep breath*
I think I may have misunderstood what you meant which caused me to ask a question that did not make sense.
I think you then proceeded to rephrase the one line of your post which I did understand. Which is very much appreciated!

Could you please also explain/rephrase these two lines?
In post 1325, Vivax wrote: Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.
You and GE were the only ones left from the team where two mafias got nabbed, so it's highly unlikely to impossible for you both to have been mafia.
And if I'm not wrong mafia would have auto-lost if they all were on your team, but I'm not sure if I was looking at a hosting mistake.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:35 am
by Aisa
In post 1331, Vivax wrote:
In post 1329, Aisa wrote:Okok so
*deep breath*
I think I may have misunderstood what you meant which caused me to ask a question that did not make sense.
I think you then proceeded to rephrase the one line of your post which I did understand. Which is very much appreciated!

Could you please also explain/rephrase these two lines?
In post 1325, Vivax wrote: Looks like it might be necessary to undig that discussion with the two PTs and what it meant for who was on them again.
Fwiw I would agree that your posts look townie, but mostly my read is from mechanics. So that deffo looks lazy.
You and GE were the only ones left from the team where two mafias got nabbed, so it's highly unlikely to impossible for you both to have been mafia.
Thanks.
I understand that. My problem is not that Enchant decided that Gamma and I were conftown. That is highly appreciated :wink:
What I meant to ask Enchant was why they were so keen to specifically sheep me or Gamma. Just because someone is highly likely to be town doesn't mean you need to hand over control of the game to them.
Am I making any sense?
And if I'm not wrong mafia would have auto-lost if they all were on your team, but I'm not sure if I was looking at a hosting mistake.
Not quite. It worked like this:
ejjinami selected a team of 6. CSF selected a team of 6.
Everyone voted on which team they preferred.
Mafia would have auto lost if the preferred team contained no scum.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:08 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1324, Aisa wrote:
Spoiler: Fluff
Effort!Aisa was a no show, but don't worry, I've found a substitute. I'm really thankful to Apathy!Aisa for stepping in to take this at the last minute.
In post 1071, Enchant wrote:So anyway.

CSF flipping maf HIGHLY suggests that last scum outside of team 2, because... Bruh really, why mafia would put all teammates with self, it's critically dumb.
So let's give remainings of Team 2 conftown status and sheep them.

Thanks, now i can go gaming normal games.
In post 1293, Enchant wrote:You and Gamma conftown, so...
In post 1294, Enchant wrote:It's kinda you to decide.
Hmm... how does this make sense though? Why would you just sheep me and Gamma instead of trying to form your own reads?
In post 1317, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1314, Aisa wrote:Sorry RR! I'll do my best to avenge you.

I suppose could be Vivax.

Hey Math, what do you think of Andante/JohnnyFarrar?

Also I will be
LA from this Friday to Monday 6 pm BST
.
Townier than Vivax by a mile

I have RL today so this is going to have to do unless I get a chance over lunch until tomorrow.

VOTE: Vivax
What's towny about them? What's scummy about Vivax?
Vivax was pretty scummy yesterday. I also work off a narrative/PoE hunting system.

Players from the other hood are out because then scum don’t get eliminated.

In this hood and still alive is me (town), Johnny, Enchant, and Vivax.

Enchant I doubt makes one of the posts I said earlier.

Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me. It’s pretty unlikely Enchant is scum.
So he either has to break his narrative that I am town which the moment he does he’s sus af. So I don’t think Johnny scum does that

So that leaves Vivax

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:10 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1240, MathBlade wrote:Why are you thinking in terms of viable vs who is scum?

It may be that the last scum is townread.

I am thinking Vivax or you based on these pages.
Admittedly I probably should have gone into more depth here but I will have to tomorrow.

Rl is poopy

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:08 pm
by Vivax
Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me
Mafia thing to say.
Johnny has been pushing for my kill since forever. If town he wouldn't give a damn about buddying you, just about killing me. This is just a pocketing attempt.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:11 pm
by Enchant
In post 1324, Aisa wrote:
Spoiler: Fluff
Effort!Aisa was a no show, but don't worry, I've found a substitute. I'm really thankful to Apathy!Aisa for stepping in to take this at the last minute.
In post 1071, Enchant wrote:So anyway.

CSF flipping maf HIGHLY suggests that last scum outside of team 2, because... Bruh really, why mafia would put all teammates with self, it's critically dumb.
So let's give remainings of Team 2 conftown status and sheep them.

Thanks, now i can go gaming normal games.
In post 1293, Enchant wrote:You and Gamma conftown, so...
In post 1294, Enchant wrote:It's kinda you to decide.
Hmm... how does this make sense though? Why would you just sheep me and Gamma instead of trying to form your own reads?
I believe in your judgement more than in myself.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:02 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1335, Vivax wrote:
Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me
Mafia thing to say.
Johnny has been pushing for my kill since forever. If town he wouldn't give a damn about buddying you, just about killing me. This is just a pocketing attempt.
The premise was if he’s scum it’s a weird strategy.

If town he’s telling the truth and townreads me.

??? *confused*

Are you like so desperate to paint me as mafia you aren’t reading?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:12 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
VOTE: Vivax

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:30 pm
by MathBlade
UNVOTE:

Why no E-1?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:41 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Was that E-1? Didn't notice honestly

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:47 pm
by Vivax
In post 1337, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1335, Vivax wrote:
Johnny has an interesting strategy if scum in buddying me
Mafia thing to say.
Johnny has been pushing for my kill since forever. If town he wouldn't give a damn about buddying you, just about killing me. This is just a pocketing attempt.
The premise was if he’s scum it’s a weird strategy.

If town he’s telling the truth and townreads me.

??? *confused*

Are you like so desperate to paint me as mafia you aren’t reading?
But you
are
a mafia I am reading, I just quoted a post because I have read something you wrote.
You are just flailing at this point, and I checkmated your poor accusation.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:05 pm
by Enchant
If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:13 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1340, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Was that E-1? Didn't notice honestly
To elim is 3.

Me + you = 2 = e-1

Spiritually on Vivax but I want to actually get time to type out shit.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:19 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 1342, Enchant wrote:If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk
Yeah my thoughts exactly

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:20 pm
by Vivax
In post 1342, Enchant wrote:If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk
There is no escape for him. Once he‘s up against the three of you, you can slowhammer his ass. But it casts a bad light if I get miselimmed before you can win the game. I can‘t live without my pro stats.

I’m confirmed town from posting the townie seal, too. I know it‘s an underhanded way of towntelling, but I give it my all in my games, even dirty tricks like that.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear



Elimination VC 2.01


Mathblade[1]: Vivax

Vivax[1]: JohnnyFarrar



Not Voting[3]:
Enchant, Mathblade, Aisa



Event
Deadline


(expired on 2022-07-20 01:00:00)

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:04 am
by Enchant
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:13 am
by MathBlade
In post 1345, Vivax wrote:
In post 1342, Enchant wrote:If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk
There is no escape for him. Once he‘s up against the three of you, you can slowhammer his ass. But it casts a bad light if I get miselimmed before you can win the game. I can‘t live without my pro stats.

I’m confirmed town from posting the townie seal, too. I know it‘s an underhanded way of towntelling, but I give it my all in my games, even dirty tricks like that.
This can be written for you too just swapping a few things

It’s bravado.

You don’t have an actual argument why I am scum.

I do have an argument I just am busy coughing repeatedly. I will get to it when I don’t feel like shit.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:28 am
by Vivax
In post 1348, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1345, Vivax wrote:
In post 1342, Enchant wrote:If Math is mafia, he just waiting in hopes i quickhammer your ass, not unvoting you.

idk
There is no escape for him. Once he‘s up against the three of you, you can slowhammer his ass. But it casts a bad light if I get miselimmed before you can win the game. I can‘t live without my pro stats.

I’m confirmed town from posting the townie seal, too. I know it‘s an underhanded way of towntelling, but I give it my all in my games, even dirty tricks like that.
This can be written for you too just swapping a few things

It’s bravado.

You don’t have an actual argument why I am scum.

I do have an argument I just am busy coughing repeatedly. I will get to it when I don’t feel like shit.
It's PoE. I wrote off Aisa, Enchant and Johnny, though I'm not sold on Johnny. He's just getting a free ride here if mafia, but I'm okay with that because he's such a cool cowboy.
I know you are busy coughing up an argument repeatedly, just that you have no argument. Checkmate again,
MATH
.