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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 am
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
Empking wrote:
Mod: If Hopp was a Neighbour would he flip as such?


No.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:01 am
by fatlikepig
Got anything for us Oversoul?

Also @Xeras:

fatlikepig wrote:WHAT OMGUS

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:56 pm
by Ironhead
If Oversoul didn't get a positive result -- or even if he did -- let's not lynch anyone until everyone has actively re-joined the game. Yesterday, we let three players get by without posting at all: Foolish Fool, Vifam, and Lady Lambadelta. This, in combination with the unreliability of the GM's deadlines, is crushing this game. This is one of the slowest and most boring games I've seen on this site.

@GM: Have Foolish Fool and Vifam responded to their prods? Do we have a replacement for LLD yet?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:14 pm
by Vifam
I can't keep up with this game

/
Replace out

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:18 pm
by fatlikepig
ಠ_ಠ

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:54 pm
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
...in combination with the unreliability of the GM's deadlines, is crushing this game. This is one of the slowest and most boring games I've seen on this site


I've only ever changed the night deadline by less than 24 hours due to personal complications. Day 1 was a mess due to things outside of my control. Not really sure where you're getting my "unreliable deadlines" from. We can discuss this more after the game, but my act of changing night deadlines by less than a full day have nothing to do with the slow and boring nature of the game. It's the extreme inactivity of the players in the game.


@GM: Have Foolish Fool and Vifam responded to their prods? Do we have a replacement for LLD yet?


Yes, no, obviously not.


...searching for a replacement for Vifam.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:47 pm
by mastin2
Slight V/LA until Sunday, via me being bogged down with things on all three days. This was another one of the busy weeks, sorry.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:41 am
by TOGTFO
Here.

The more I reread this game, the more I think its going to be completely useless. I would like some claims before I give my reads because for the most part, I have read a good portion of this game.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:25 am
by redFF
honestly mastin2 has done absolutely nothing this game, promised huge amounts of analysis and not delivered. People seem to be totally ignoring his lurking/non contribution and I don't understand.

so
VOTE: mastin2

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:36 am
by Empking
redFF wrote:honestly mastin2 has done absolutely nothing this game, promised huge amounts of analysis and not delivered. People seem to be totally ignoring his lurking/non contribution and I don't understand.

so
VOTE: mastin2


We're waiting for Oversoul to tell us who the scum are.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:44 am
by redFF
How was the day 1 mod disappearance not the mod's fault?

w/e it doesnt matter. I guess now we play the waiting game.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:47 am
by Empking
redFF wrote:How was the day 1 mod disappearance not the mod's fault?


Different mods.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:44 pm
by ObliviousDruidMuncher
Prods:

Xeras
Foolish Fool
projectmatt
David Xanatos
Oversoul
evilpacman18

Replacements:

Vifam
Lady Lambadelta

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:01 pm
by evilpacman18
Me and Oversoul are deciding who needs to be lynched.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:03 pm
by evilpacman18
(hint: It's probably Xeras)

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:59 pm
by Oversoul
I investigated redFF last night and received a negative result.

Everyone in the neighborhood thought that one of Ironhead vs Fatlikepig was scum, but we couldn't come to an agreement on which person it was.

Hoppster and I had gut scum reads on Foolish Fool, but they aren't here.
Mod, at the time of this post, is Foolish Fool up for a prod?


Hoppster and I were coordinating our night actions (we were using his JK as a roleblocker) and we have a few results.

Night 1:
Jailed DavidX
Investigated Lew - Positive

Night 2:
Jailed Empking
Investigated Otolia - Positive

Night 3:
We had problems with activity in the neighborhood. He said he would jail Xeras but I don't know if he was actually there to send in the action.
Investigated redFF - Negative

We have town reads on Mastin and TOG.

We suspect Xeras, but we don't know whether or not he was actually jailed by Hoppster and because Hoppster is dead the mod isn't telling us. :\


ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:

1.
Empking

2.
Xeras
(gonna put him as town for the sake of analysis)
3. Foolish Fool
4.
mastin2

5. Vifam
6. Lady Lambadelta
7. projectmatt
8.
David Xanatos

9.
Oversoul

10. Ironhead
11.
TOGTFO

12. fatlikepig
13.
evilpacman18

14.
redFF




This leaves us with a nice little group of people we can scumhunt out of..

Personally, I do not like Foolish Fool, but that is mostly gut.

We think one of Fatlikepig vs Ironhead is scum, but not sure which.

I personally do not like Empking's play, but he has semi confirmed towniness. :\

Opinions?

Likely to be 2 or 3 scum left.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:04 pm
by fatlikepig
Well, I know I'm town, but I'm not sure that Ironhead is scum either. His voting pattern on Day 2 seems quite uncharacteristic of scum, and I'm not really getting anything that screams scum atm.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:05 pm
by Oversoul
I feel like everyone is town in this damn game lol.

Mastin, VCA on Johhog, please?

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:32 pm
by TOGTFO
Just for my own sanity, Oversoul's investigation is for guns right? That does not mean scum just means they can kill.

So can scum be scum without a gun? Just pondering... This may seem strange, but I want FoolishFool to claim. My initial read was town on him still I would prefer a claim from him, regardless if he is the lynch for today or not.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:38 pm
by Oversoul
No...

Gunsmith is... if you are a role with a gun, i.e. any maifa role, cop, vigilante, etc, you will show up as a positive from a Gunsmith scan.

Serial Killers are the only killing roles to not appear positive from a Gunsmith scan.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:54 pm
by redFF
how the fuck do you have a town read on mastin.

1.Promise a shit ton of analysis
2.Be inactive
3.Tell everyone they should be honored for playing in your last game
4.???
5.TOWN READ

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:54 pm
by fatlikepig
Apparently it's a meta thing.

Will read up on that tomorrow when I have time to.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:04 am
by David Xanatos
Here. Re-reading. Thinking.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:31 am
by Ironhead
I'm not so sure fatlikepig is scum. Otolia's flipping scum threw a lot of my analysis of him out the window.

I also disagree stridently with many of Oversoul's reads. I think Xeras, mastin2, TOGTFO, and David Xanatos are high probability to be scum (vis-a-vis the rest of the town). I'm also unconvinced that evilpacman18 is town simply by virtue of being in the neighborhood. Meanwhile, I'm not so sold on Foolish Fool, projectmatt, or fatlikepig being scum.

My reads:

TOWN

Oversoul (isn't yet 100% confirmed, but close -- I doubt a scum would bus
two
of his partners)
redFF (don't much like his play, but Oversoul vouches for him and I don't think he is a SK)
Empking (pro-town play)
projectmatt (had some pro-town play before his activity dropped off)
Foolish Fool (had some pro-town play before his activity dropped off)
fatlikepig (his VCA looks a lot better now that we know Otolia was scum)
evilpacman18 (I got it, he was in the neighborhood and Oversoul trusts him... but I don't get a good vibe from him)
David Xanatos (null, at best. He strikes me as a talented player, which means that if scum he would be able to hide it well)
mastin2 (promising brilliant analysis and failing to deliver; on the other hand, this is not unusual for mastin2)
TOGTFO (Why is he asking people to claim? Pretty ham-handed role-fishing)
Xeras (Not much to like about his play so far)
SCUM



Not on here are Vifam and Lady Lambdadelta. Without getting a replacement to start participating for them, they are non-entities. One or both may very well be scum, and I am hesitant to move forward with a lynch today without a replacement for them.

@GM: Can one of the deceased town-affiliated players come back in for these two roles? I can't see how Hoppster or bvoigt would have inside information that would prohibit them coming back to plug these gaps in the roster.

However, I will VOTE: XERAS for now. Would like to see this thread come alive with discussion, and I may be inclined to change my vote.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:03 am
by redFF
^ terrible post
oversoul why did you check me.