Don't think this setup is town sided, or very much if it is. Looks well balanced. Vig hitting 2/3 mafia is always going to make a game look bad balance wise, when its just swingy.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:54 am
by Glork
↑Brandi wrote:NO U GUYZ HES TOTALLY SK EVEN THOUGH CHAMBER GOT AN FBI AGENT INNOCENT ON HIM LOLOLOLOL
*shrug*
Scum can (and will) lie about results, and Chamber was literally doing everything within his power to lose the game for the town.
I do NOT regret keeping the possibility open in the back of my mind, even while I called for lynches on Panzer, Reck, Kats, and EPM... y'know, the entire actual scumteam.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:55 am
by Faraday
Eh. Lying in that situation as scum means the SK knows you're scum which is tricky going forward. Even if you need the extra kills you probably can't afford to lie about it.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:56 am
by singersigner
AND YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM AND WANTED THEM DEAD AMIRITE.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:57 am
by Glork
↑Faraday wrote:Eh. Lying in that situation as scum means the SK knows you're scum which is tricky going forward. Even if you need the extra kills you probably can't afford to lie about it.
Again, it's situational. It's one of the things that
won the game for the scums in My Little Pony Mafia
. The scums had rolecopped the SK, who was playing like a Vig, and then one of the scums later claimed Vig to get out of being lynched, and the SK left him alive. It was clear that each team KNEW who the others were, but they also KNEW they had to work together for the time being to have a chance at winning.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:58 am
by Glork
↑singersigner wrote:AND YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM AND WANTED THEM DEAD AMIRITE.
No, but I think it's retarded that I'm getting flak for THE POSSIBLITY OF CHAMBER AND AXXLE BEING SCUM, when there were clearly several town players (you-two, MattP, me, Axxle, and even UberNinja) who actually played really good games.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:59 am
by MattP
Ooooohhhh also DAMN YOU FATE
Also UN was obv fucking town and I love him and think he played a strong game with good reads and redeemed himself after I set the ball rolling on the Reck/Kat/Wyrd trio
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:01 am
by singersigner
Glork wrote:
↑singersigner wrote:AND YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT THEY WERE SCUM AND WANTED THEM DEAD AMIRITE.
No, but I think it's retarded that I'm getting flak for THE POSSIBLITY OF CHAMBER AND AXXLE BEING SCUM, when there were clearly several town players (you-two, MattP, me, Axxle, and even UberNinja) who actually played really good games.
Well she's just overlooking the fact that you left them as last-possibilities in your scenarios for lynching/vigging. <3
↑Faraday wrote:Eh. Lying in that situation as scum means the SK knows you're scum which is tricky going forward. Even if you need the extra kills you probably can't afford to lie about it.
Again, it's situational. It's one of the things that
won the game for the scums in My Little Pony Mafia
. The scums had rolecopped the SK, who was playing like a Vig, and then one of the scums later claimed Vig to get out of being lynched, and the SK left him alive. It was clear that each team KNEW who the others were, but they also KNEW they had to work together for the time being to have a chance at winning.
*shrug* you can say 'it's situational for everything' and probably point to a case where something weird worked. Doesn't mean it's a good strategy.
I think Brandi's comment was mostly tongue in cheek anyway? I don't really think you're 'getting flak'
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:03 am
by Katsuki
↑chamber wrote:I don't get the wyrd kill at all ._. Did you think with a reck scumflip that fate would turn on you kats?
I thought I was getting shot by axxle and thus HAD to recruit the traitor N3.
Welp.
Terrible game RL left me detached for too long and then never got into it.
I was sad when Brandi wasn't the traitor. Granted our N1 kill wasn't suppose to be sent for her but someone changed it to her and
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:04 am
by Katsuki
@Matt: You had Fate down as scum though. You would've been lynched regardless of my alignment at least.
↑Faraday wrote:Eh. Lying in that situation as scum means the SK knows you're scum which is tricky going forward. Even if you need the extra kills you probably can't afford to lie about it.
Again, it's situational. It's one of the things that
won the game for the scums in My Little Pony Mafia
. The scums had rolecopped the SK, who was playing like a Vig, and then one of the scums later claimed Vig to get out of being lynched, and the SK left him alive. It was clear that each team KNEW who the others were, but they also KNEW they had to work together for the time being to have a chance at winning.
*shrug* you can say 'it's situational for everything' and probably point to a case where something weird worked. Doesn't mean it's a good strategy.
I think Brandi's comment was mostly tongue in cheek anyway? I don't really think you're 'getting flak'
I mean you had good reads as did a number of the town? So yeah.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:06 am
by Gammagooey
i think panzer said you were going to kill ME night 1 instead?
which i guess wouldn't have been a bad choice either given how much i poked at reck day 2 but brandi was still obvtown and super suspicious of panzer d1.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:10 am
by Faraday
Yeah, I think gamma was originally getting a bullet. Brandi was superobvtown though by everyone.
And I don't even remember glork actually pushing chamber scum/axxle sk as opposed to saying it was vaguely possible which I suppose it wasn't completely impossible.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:18 am
by Glork
↑Faraday wrote:Yeah, I think gamma was originally getting a bullet. Brandi was superobvtown though by everyone.
And I don't even remember glork actually pushing chamber scum/axxle sk as opposed to saying it was vaguely possible which I suppose it wasn't completely impossible.
Well and that's exactly the point I was trying to make. It was literally "If I die tonight, and you don't win after lynching EPM and Katsuki, consider this possibility, because I am POSITIVE that BBMolla, and Singer/Nacho are town."
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:20 am
by Glork
EBWOP: Okay, I did consider it after Reck's claim, and even voted Axxle for a brief period of time then, but backed off pretty quickly. Reck's claim was good in that it was sensible and impulsed people into wanting to believe him, but as Singer pointed out, if it were true, he would have been going after Axxle right from the start of that day, not only after he was forced to claim.
Also, mad love and mad props to Axxle. Fuck yeah bro, you won this game for us by any and all standards.
Spoiler: looks like I did at least one thing right by not hammering you
↑UberNinja wrote:I like you Axxle. I think one of the main reasons I didn't want to lynch you early was because I didn't want you to feel dejected about dying early if you had a kickass role or whatever, just because you haven't been around the site as long as everyone else.
All that should have gone out the window when obvfuckingtownie MoS died day 1. Operative words: Should have.
I mean, they killed a 2004 MS stalwart player who's pretty fucking good at the game, right? Surely MoS dying before you (and getting mislynched by a bunch of fucktard sheeple) should be plenty consolation enough, right?
I don't know. For some reason I want to keep you alive.
Also, mad love to MattP. We the obvtown mislynch fodder are just a couple of misunderstood guys, apparently.
Overall this town (specifically Wyrd and chamber) were fucking fail as fuck. Like, holy fucking fuck.
If you haven't already, bow down and hail Axxle and MattP and give them the credit they are due.
Also, all hail the mods for a fantastic game. I have never laughed so hard at flavor in my life.
So glad town won this game. So so so so so so glad. <3 everybody
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:08 am
by Nuwen
Fate was about to turn on |Katsuki to his credit...he told me a night how he could only be this wrong this often if Katsuki were scum, and to flip him before touching Glork.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:12 am
by BBmolla
↑ChannelDelibird wrote:Massive props to the ENTIRE modding team; such was their superbity. Reading those role PMs gave me a massive nostalgia teardrop. I miss you guys!
And, y'know, well played Axxle for, like, winning the game and stuff.
^This. To both statements.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:35 am
by Nachomamma8
this was an extraordinarily fun game
mos lynch day 1 <3
axxle <3
singer calling everything correctly and me not so much <3
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:45 am
by Fate
meeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh katsuki reck scumteam ffs all up in my sheeps
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:52 pm
by Axxle
I really have to thank Brandi for the Panzer vig since I basically just sheeped her there. I also should thank MattP, UN, Glork, and not sure who else that validated my suspicions of Reck. Also thanks to all the other obvtown players: CDB at the end there and Nachosinger for most of it.
Also thanks to the mods: the flavor and setup seemed great!
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:56 pm
by Gammagooey
↑Axxle wrote: I also should thank NOT GAMMA who else that validated my suspicions of Reck.
SINGLE TEAR.
also yeah the mods were baller, thanks for everything =D
