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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:35 am
by Nachomamma8
chkflip wrote:Nacho didn't say a fucking word. Thanks for wasting my role.

VOTE: NachoMamma8

I made a post you didn't respond to!

pirate mollie wrote:hi guys!

hey mollie!

The Acting Method wrote:by the way, anyone have a redirector role? I got the wrong result for my investigation. (and I can tell because I did do some checking up to see how many times a player had posted before making my decision.)

lightning rod redirects everything

Maenara wrote:N2 Redirector Matt -> Nachomamma, which apparently didn't work.

yes because you redirected matt to himself
congratulations

Venmar wrote:The Nacho case is that he wasted Chkflips night role which isn't town at all, he proposed ridiculous cop investigations for Mehdi, his bs questioning phase that he had with me which showed no purpose but him trying to look smarter than he really is. Nacho was a big buddy of Trollie, he marked Trollie as town and trying to divert attention from him to Bitmap and so on, while not wanting to support his lynching until it looked like there was no other option, and that was after Bitmap was shot.

I didn't waste chkflip's night role. I didn't propose ridiculous cop investigations for Medhi as I was demonstrating with my questioning phase with you; we don't get relational tells from "guilty, innocent results"; we only see if medhi wants to call two people innocent in exchange for living, or just wants to die tomorrow. I did think Trollie was town for a while, though.

PeregrineV wrote:Let Nacho catch up first. He may want to hear this.

thank you

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:36 am
by Nachomamma8
Vote: Maenara

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:38 am
by Maenara
PeregrineV wrote:Gonna go ahead and counterclaim you. You did not visit Matt night1.


The hell. Yes I did.

Toogeloo wrote:Maenara actually thinking he could redirect an untargeting ability.


Yeah, 'cause I was targeting Matt anyway, so I didn't think the LR would stop me.

P-EDIT: Thank you for explaining the obvious, Nacho. Now, tell us, how is saying essentially nothing not wasting the role?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:39 am
by Venmar
Maenara, there is a such thing as no action.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:39 am
by Nachomamma8
Vote: Maenara


Maenara wrote:P-EDIT: Thank you for explaining the obvious, Nacho. Now, tell us, how is saying essentially nothing not wasting the role?

both nights I was not around to say much.
that's more alignment null, and not a scumtell.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:41 am
by Maenara
Venmar wrote:Maenara, there is a such thing as no action.


Your point being?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:42 am
by Venmar
Doesn't matter, it looks like you're fakeclaiming anyways.

Peregrine?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:44 am
by Nachomamma8
I don't think TAM is scum, and we have an alternate scum tomorrow.
Although the actual doctor should claim if he is a full doctor so he can protect Peregrine and they can watch/protect one another. If would also mean that mafia had a strongman that they used last night, which would mean that there would be an unbreakable combination between them without another scum being caught.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:47 am
by Toogeloo
Nachomamma8 wrote:Although the actual doctor should claim if he is a full doctor so he can protect Peregrine and they can watch/protect one another.

How about "no."

If scum has a Roleblocker, they just block PV and kill the Doc... "gg."

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:48 am
by Nero Cain
Toogeloo wrote:Maenara claimed Redirector, which means he was attempting to redirect MattP's action to Nacho, which doesn't work because MattP needs a target in order to be redirected, which Lightning Rod doesn't have. Why is this game full of so much failure to read and understand? TAM not understanding how he could have possibly been redirected to a Lightning Rod, Maenara actually thinking he could redirect an untargeting ability.

Well you can add me to the list 'cause I thought a lightning rods actions could be transferred so I thought it was a pro-town use of actions from her. Doesn't a lightning rod essentially target all prs?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:49 am
by PeregrineV
OK. Now the full results. ON both nights, Matt was the player I selected to watch.

Night1:
Aside from myself,
Nacho
and
Venmar
visited Matt
There was no kill night1.

Night2
: Aside from myself,
Nacho
and
The Acting Method
visited Matt
MattP died night2, but there was no expected Party on the Patio of every power role, which I would have expected had Matt actually used his lightning rod ability.

So, Maenera is lying.

If Matt used Lightning Rod, then there are people missing from having thier night action redirected to Matt.
If Matt did not use Lightning Rod, then one of TAM or Nacho killed him.

So, Nacho is lying.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:49 am
by Toogeloo
A Lightning Rod doesn't target anything. All PRs are just automatically redirected to the LR. Since Maenara is claiming JOAT, he had no reason to use an action that would be otherwise wasted last night, and could have just no actioned.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:50 am
by Nachomamma8
Toogeloo wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Although the actual doctor should claim if he is a full doctor so he can protect Peregrine and they can watch/protect one another.

How about "no."

If scum has a Roleblocker, they just block PV and kill the Doc... "gg."

but peregrine has results on two people targetting matt night 1
one is probably the killer
one is probably the doctor
so the doctor claims now to confirm himself

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:51 am
by Toogeloo
Nachomamma8 wrote:i am a one-shot day vigilante, shot used yesterday

PeregrineV wrote:So, Nacho is lying.

Sounds like Nacho is lying either way since he's a claimed Day power.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:52 am
by Venmar
FUCK YEA!!

Okay lynch Nacho, he's scum who tried to kill Mattp night 1, but failed, but succeeded on Night 2.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:52 am
by Nero Cain
ok, thanks Toog

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 am
by Maenara
Oi. Hold on a damned second here.

Peregrine is a watcher? In a game with a lightning rod and this many PRs?

No way in hell am I gonna believe that the setup is that broken.

VOTE: PeregrineV

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 am
by Venmar
Oh, right I should claim.

I am the Town Jailkeeper. Night 1 i protected Mattp because I knew he wasn't going to lightning rod. Night 2 I jailed Nacho thinking Mattp will pull me into him and save him but that clearly didn't happen. Nacho either cant be blocked, or there's somekind of a strongman, or I was blocked myself, idk.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:53 am
by Toogeloo
I'm trying to process all of this now.

Why would you not be able to see everyone visit MattP on Night 2, but you do see TAM who is claimed to not have targeted Matt.


Something seems off. PV might be lying, but not sure why he would need to.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:54 am
by Nachomamma8
wait what the fuck

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:55 am
by chkflip
Nacho's last post in QT wrote:i will be back before night closes
i've been busy, and this is the last of my priorities
you could post your own thoughts
tell me if we can post in here during the day
quit bitching
you know

Woooooow, thaaaaanks.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:56 am
by Nero Cain
Venmar wrote:Night 1 i protected Mattp



PeregrineV wrote:Aside from myself, Nacho and Venmar visited Matt

?????

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:56 am
by Nero Cain
oh nm

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:57 am
by Maenara
I can think of about zero non-bastard non-mod-error interpretations of the current domino row of claims and interactions that don't involve Peregrine lying.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:57 am
by Venmar
TAM claimed to have gotten a result for Mattp, so we claearly pulled in by the lightning rod... but for some reason there aren't many people on Mattp that day. Either there aren't that many roles or a lot of people no-actioned.

My question is, WHY WAS I NOT PULLED INTO MATTP ON NIGHT 2. WHAT THE FUCK