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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:21 pm
by BT
Heyo caught up finally

I'm in pretty solid agreement with the CDB suspicion but I want peta/dan/kuribo or sotty lynched more.

VOTE: kuribo

kuribo wrote:And as I read I'm seeing alot of people seeing petapan as scum.

Seriously? peta? the guy's a fucking troll. He probably masturbates while he thinks of new ways to fuck with people.

Opportunism at its worst among the peta-haters, and I gotta figure out which ones are legitimately stupid and which ones were just trying to figure out the best mislynch.

Ugh this is really shitty. If you're going to call X people out for considering Y scum because Y is Y (which is unhelpful enough) the LEAST you could have done was name examples instead of that last line which you never got back to. If you're town you know they're opportunistic yes but then I'd have expected you to put effort into weeding out the scum that pushed your wagon instead of this global shitflinging.

Overall his macho doesn't seem town-fueled (the 1v1 with BENMAGE is also dumb and makes me want to just be rid of him).

kuribo wrote:
*VC*

lol dan wagon picked up steam just as Hero-scum was going down in flames

There's this too. This really means nothing (crap logic as is) and leaving it like that without possibly elaborating and making sense smells like scumposting with ~*~votecounts~*~ being nice and convincing when it shouldn't be.
Actually he says he mixed up absta and TGAH later on so
next


kuribo wrote:also, if you believe dan's scum, you'd have to believe he seriously wouldn't realize his role wasn't a counter-claim to Zdenek's

that's a pretty stupid gambit to pull, even for dan

Same crap logic. Scum!Dan was just as likely to misinterpret the claim as Town!Dan was. If anything his initial hesitation in the post where he claimed fits scum wondering why a town neiborizer exists.

I actually feel really retarded and waffle-ish right now because I otherwise agree with his SAD clear + Sotty suspicion (the general sotty suspicion at that, along with my disliking their recent nost vote) and it's why I want one of these two lynched as things stand. I'm tempted to vote sotty instead but <_< I feel like the things itp point strongly to kuribo scum (and the agreement is an agreement is an agreement) whereas sotty is in the realm of possible lametown. So that's just how it is.

sottyrulez wrote:
The Mini-Librarian wrote:
sottyrulez wrote:If you think we're scum with TGAH after the way day 1 played out, I really don't know what to tell you.


Um...Traitor? (jus sayin)


Go read his final post after being lynched. He went out of his way to mention us being a possible SK. That would just be an odd thing to say about someone you would theoretically know is on your scumteam.

(I think he posted that because he wanted the town to consider us a serial killer suspect to salvage any value in our lynchability, but of course I have the benefit of knowing my alignment.)

Ehh screw that, I hate this too, this is false. In fact I'm inclined to believe last minute random remarks are a lot more incriminating than most things ("oh man this is really unlikely for a buddy!") and "guys he might be sk" is definitely random.

I'll come back to this tomorrow?

~~~

jasonT1981 wrote:
sottyrulez wrote:
jasonT1981 wrote:@SottyRulez - who was more behind the TGAH scum push on your side at the start, Zach or Sotty? or were you both in agreement from the start he was scum, or did one have to persuade the other?


At the start of the day, Sotty was heavily suspicious of TGAH, and I was more interested in Safetydance. Later on I came on board because of Rolf's lack of presence in the game because he has a scum meta that is very similar to my own so I became convinced later on in the day that TGAH was scum. From that point on, we both wanted him dead.


This solidifies my town read on you, Town Zach changes his mind on people, scum zach busses from the get go

... but he was a traitor? <_<

Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:I showed rofl the light in regards to Jason. rofl and I had opposite reactions to Jason’s gambit, this was due to his lack of flavor knowledge, while I am from Maryland and not watching The Wire is a sin punishable by death. I eventually convinced him that Jason’s gambit was a crock of shit. After that, I eventually got him to agree that Jason was the best vote

I have no idea what to make of this, but maybe konowa decided it was best to attack one of his masters so they'd look good if he ever gets lynched and rofl was just attempting to protect jason regularly and then konowa convinced him of the plan.

I don't know about this, I'm reading it as the opposite actually. It fits more an announcement of a read they're not too worried about (a townie) and again you have to consider their case on Jason that I already said looked nitpicky.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:23 pm
by jasonT1981
wow holy shit....

@ Sotty - Yes, you know my weekend schedule, I do head out most weekends in the evenings.. I usually would be at home a lot in the day, but that is reserved for watching sports mostly on sat/sun when at computers at weekends it is spent doing off site stuff in another type of RP game. you know this.... I like to take a few days or evenings away from MS at weekends mostly and the only time you will catch me posting is if I had a thought I felt was important and needed to post, or to mod my own games.

the whole 1 on 1 thing - I have never seen a scum go down on a 1vs1 it is ALWAYS between 2 frustrated as hell townies hell bent on thinking the other is scum and would be hell bent on getting them lynched.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:25 pm
by jasonT1981
argh... the 1 vs 1 thing cuts into my thoughts on Kuribo scum FFS I do still think he is scum.. but ive never seen a 1v1 go down with scum.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:27 pm
by Benmage
Alright alright, spam only cause noones here to talk.

@kuribo
In the first part of WMII (the crashed part) We went toe to toe.... And you derped at me a whole fuckton. I actually reversed my read relatively early midgame on you.
****What helped was you giving me some actual reads. Look dude. Your slot is horribly scummy. Give some reads. Stop puffing your chest. You know, I know... everyone knows there won't be a 1v1. So help me help you help me, and drop some reads porfavor. 3 town, 3 scum if possible.

AND The coroner thing... I had you down as conftown for a long time.

-In fact it was you who started second guessing me as scum toward the endgame. Despite me being a boss from D1. Despite me dayvigging Reck. The game does have a certain similar feel to this one. Probably just because I think I was only in that game at the time, and therefore very committed... Just as I am being a boss in this game.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:30 pm
by Benmage
BT wrote:
sottyrulez wrote:
The Mini-Librarian wrote:
sottyrulez wrote:If you think we're scum with TGAH after the way day 1 played out, I really don't know what to tell you.


Um...Traitor? (jus sayin)


Go read his final post after being lynched. He went out of his way to mention us being a possible SK. That would just be an odd thing to say about someone you would theoretically know is on your scumteam.

(I think he posted that because he wanted the town to consider us a serial killer suspect to salvage any value in our lynchability, but of course I have the benefit of knowing my alignment.)

Ehh screw that, I hate this too, this is false. In fact I'm inclined to believe last minute random remarks are a lot more incriminating than most things ("oh man this is really unlikely for a buddy!") and "guys he might be sk" is definitely random.

I'll come back to this tomorrow?

It's definitely some random nonesense. Sotty or zach should know better than to think that a towntell.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:36 pm
by The Baltimore Sun
Day 2, Votecount 13

ChannelDeliBird (3) - Plessiezarus, Zdenek, The Mini-Librarian
kuribo (4) - Cerulean, JasonT1981, Benmage, BT

JastonT1981 (1) - ChannelDelibird
sottyrulez (1) - Nostredeus
Nostredeus (1) - sottyrulez
Benmage (1) - kuribo

Not voting (5) :
Ser Arthur Dayne, ZONEACE, Deasvail, Kise, camn

  • With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  • Deadline is on 22nd of February at 00:30am GMT
  • Countdown to deadlien: (expired on 2013-02-21 20:30:28)
  • No one is V/la


Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:42 pm
by Benmage
@Jason
Can you respond to my spoiler comment.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:02 pm
by Benmage
FINE I'll goto the gym. Noones around. (everyone needs to go read weather mafia II... gave me chills looking at it again. How the hell did we not get a scummy for that game? Buncha Bosses)

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:31 pm
by Nostredeus
Prod dodge, I'll read stuff sometime tomorrow; evidently an egosplosion happened and I cba right now.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:27 pm
by jasonT1981
Benmage wrote:
@Jason
Can you respond to my spoiler comment.


Yea, tomorrow... im not going to read through all this crap between you and Kuribo at 1.25am

Personally, on skimming the whole thing, you're both acting like spoiled brats acting more on impulse than logic. That may change when i read if fully... but right now, I don't even want to contemplate reading it this late at night, high on meds lol

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:30 pm
by camn
The Mini-Librarian wrote:You're supposed to have some reads.
All mine flipped.
Benmage wrote:Omg classic, scum reading their predecessors iso. ScumQT, you name it. Why is he alive?
Agreed. It tickled me when he replaced in :) I think a real townie would have just told me to shove it BEFORE reading. But I like giving kuribo a little rope to play with, you know?
kuribo wrote:ANY VOTES NOT FOR ME OR BEN IS TANTAMOUNT TO A FUCKING SCUM CLAIM

Hmm. 1v1s are dumb. If this continues my vote will be on kuribo.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:51 pm
by kuribo
camn wrote:
The Mini-Librarian wrote:You're supposed to have some reads.
All mine flipped.


yah, that's what tends to happen when you night kill them, Dr. Lecter

camn wrote:Agreed. It tickled me when he replaced in :) I think a real townie would have just told me to shove it BEFORE reading. But I like giving kuribo a little rope to play with, you know?


even ben admitted that he had misunderstood what I said, so my question to you is "are you illiterate?"


jeez, camn, just stab me and stick me in your freezer tonight or whatever you wacky serial killers do

Benmage wrote:
kuribo
if neither you nor I become viable wagons, do you have other suspects? (Sorry if you've said this... but are you fully caught up with the thread)


Yes, I'm caught up:

Benmage wrote:Alright alright, spam only cause noones here to talk.

@kuribo
In the first part of WMII (the crashed part) We went toe to toe.... And you derped at me a whole fuckton. I actually reversed my read relatively early midgame on you.
****What helped was you giving me some actual reads. Look dude. Your slot is horribly scummy. Give some reads. Stop puffing your chest. You know, I know... everyone knows there won't be a 1v1. So help me help you help me, and drop some reads porfavor. 3 town, 3 scum if possible.

AND The coroner thing... I had you down as conftown for a long time.

-In fact it was you who started second guessing me as scum toward the endgame. Despite me being a boss from D1. Despite me dayvigging Reck. The game does have a certain similar feel to this one. Probably just because I think I was only in that game at the time, and therefore very committed... Just as I am being a boss in this game.


IF you're town, and that's a big if, my strongest reads are as follows:

Hell, I'll even do you one better and give you one of each

Town
SAD
Zdenek (obviously)
TML
DeasVeil

no idea why I find TML town but something just feels right about his posting. SAD, I would basically never, ever, ever be down to lynch unless it's a three-way between me, him and Zdenek. Zdenek because I believe his claim. Deas and I were scum together once, and his play here is unlike his play in that game.

Scum
Nos
Camn
still somewhat on sotty
something still not sitting right with CDB

Nos feels inconsistent at times. I still think Camn killed her top scumread last night, whether as SK or vig or whatever I'm not sure. But if she's SK, that fact will reveal itself if the game is still going when the scum have been lynched, so I'm not willing to rope her yet. sotty, even though I may have derped on one of my reasons earlier, I still get an uneasy feeling about him. Either sotty or jason feels like likely scum to me. CDB just feels off. I've played with CDB before, I can't put my finger on it, it just seems off.

I don't like BT's latest post, though I have to ask:
@BT: Have we played together? I keep thinking we've played together.




ohh and if CDB is scum, i guess I get to congratulate myself on being his counterwagon

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:52 pm
by kuribo
kuribo wrote:one of each


* four of each




now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to stop reading what you idiots are typing and watch the LAPD kill this guy in the woods

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:55 pm
by Benmage
Kuribo, you think Camn can be either SK, or scum?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:09 pm
by sottyrulez
CDB
- Remind me what game we played with (one of) us and Jason.

~ Sotty currently catching up.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:35 pm
by sottyrulez
BT wrote:... but he was a traitor? <_<

Read that post again and you'll see Jason remarking on Zach's meta, not TGAH interactions with us.

Happy enough with Jason's responses to us. I would like him to do more though, I was looking forward to teaming up and taking on the world in this game but nothin'. Who are your scum reads right now Jason?

The CDB hate is somewhat tasty and I'd quite like the idea of a Kise vote. He has come into the game and added a lot of nothing. I have town reads on Kuribo and Benmage right now, so less of that crap the better.

~Sotty

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:56 pm
by camn
kuribo wrote:ven ben admitted that he had misunderstood what I said, so my question to you is "are you illiterate?"

Except I actually understood what you said.
You read my 'request'. You thought you would tell me to shove it. Then you went and read your QT. Then you changed your mind.
It tickles me.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:32 pm
by BT
kuribo wrote:
@BT: Have we played together? I keep thinking we've played together.

Gay II but I don't think we talked, like, at all, so that explains that

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:38 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
zzzzzzzz
vote kuribo

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:39 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
b/c
kuribo wrote:unless it's a three-way between me, him and Zdenek.

is legit wrong.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:41 pm
by kuribo
Benmage wrote:Kuribo, you think Camn can be either SK, or scum?


she's either SK or town, her interaction with absta would require incredibly ballsy bussing


Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:b/c
kuribo wrote:unless it's a three-way between me, him and Zdenek.

is legit wrong.


how the hell do you figure that?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:41 pm
by kuribo
I know I'm town.
Zdenek, barring Jason as scum is 100% mod confirmed town


if LYLO is you / me / him, that makes you scum


how is that legit wrong?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:42 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
kuribo wrote:how is that legit wrong?

....

it was a joke.

three-way...

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:43 pm
by kuribo
may as well vote one of my other scum reads if I'm gonna be his counterwagon


Unvote
Vote: CDB


Ben's probably town, arguing with people who are being idiots tends to cloud my judgement

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:44 pm
by kuribo
SAD, swear to me that when I flip town, you'll lynch at least one of the people on my wagon