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AP, every time I see your pretty face browsing the forum and you don't post, I start to get antsy.

↑ Piratecat wrote:buldey <3

we have a bw on us (are you surprised?) started by slaandar (again, are you surprised?) for really stupid reasons (let's go for the gold! are you surprised?) and then some people (probably scum) jumped on it. <------ I bet this shocks you, lol.

I think slaandar is scummy not because he is trolleytracking but his reasoning behind it. at least in titanium he made sense sort of. oh in his world of pet theories somehow cryo and I are scum buddies.

I now think cryo is town btw. liking mac for town cos seems to be really trying to work things out and leaning town on majiffy.

meanwhile, pidgeywidgey is running around like an epileptic chicken jumping on anyone who has the slightest suspicion of him and I can't follow his thought processes at all which is waaaaaaaay different than the posh game where we were on the same page practically the whole game.

I have no idea what the hell is going on with borky. mala should be on later tonight.

oh and slaandar and cryo are going 1v1 and I think I want to be cryo's publicity manager if he will let me cos I think it will probably be the only fun I will have all game. you know how I feel about stupidity. don't mind getting lynched for good reasons but I do mind getting lynched for bad ones and the ones right now are pretty terrible.

also I am so glad you are here.

I'll try to figure out things xD

↑ Mac wrote:

↑ AngryPidgeon wrote:
If Marangal is town, Mac is very very town. Could be scum together, but don't want to think about that right now. Could someone point me to the post Marangal soft claimed in? Would appreciate.

i do not understand this post by the way. what makes ms. M being town me very very town?

I find it unlikely that scum-Mac pushes town-Marangal when most people are town-reading Marangal or otherwise giving her a pass for a softclaim. Its just an unpopular opinion and the support isn't there. Not a super-solid townread here (wifom and all that), but I find it unlikely that Mac would do that.

@Jal: I know my face is pretty. I just replaced into another game. Also Im actually doing work in the meantime (I've had this post in my preview window for like a solid 10 minutes or more).

S'ok. I just wanted to see if you would post.

I don't think pushing Mrs M is that unpopular. No one has been giving crap to others about it, except for Mac himself. He sort of goes in-between respecting and acknowledging her claim, telling GIF why he shouldn't vote her (her claim), then calling her claim shit.

What?

I have a scum read on Piratecat - mostly due to meta with the mollie part of the hydra.

There is a distinct lack of her doing what she usually does as town.

I need to see more MollieUnderPressure though.

↑ Majiffy wrote:There is a distinct lack of her doing what she usually does as town.

I need to see more MollieUnderPressure though.

Well if you ISO her and count the scum reads versus the town reads it's quite obvious that she's delaying doing any town reads. Usually she bursts out with a bunch of town reads right away based on very few posts. And it's not a matter of her wanting to talk to mala first, because she is happily sharing scum reads and fos'ing.

Seriously, guys. There's a time and place for fluff.
Pages 52-55 are not it.

I don't care how much of a killjoy it might be to you, but we need to cut the noise so the content is maximized.

We are lynching the false-prophet calling themselves Messiah today.

↑ mastin2 wrote:We are lynching the false-prophet calling themselves Messiah today.

Make it so.

Lol @ Majiffy - there _was_ PC pressure. And you were like 'hurr, durr, look at dat Slandaar CW'. But ya. Im kind of liking Buldermar.

↑ buldermar wrote:

↑ Majiffy wrote:There is a distinct lack of her doing what she usually does as town.

I need to see more MollieUnderPressure though.

Well if you ISO her and count the scum reads versus the town reads it's quite obvious that she's delaying doing any town reads. Usually she bursts out with a bunch of town reads right away based on very few posts. And it's not a matter of her wanting to talk to mala first, because she is happily sharing scum reads and fos'ing.

You have to keep in mind this also a hydra and we are talking about our reads before blurting them out in the thread. We do have very similar town reads though which I already stated in some earlier posts. You aren't taking everything into consideration.

Not what I'm looking for, Buld, but it's closely related.

↑ The Goat wrote:Okay, I'll be the guy to ask. Why doesn't Mollie use caps and punctuation? She's quite erudite, from what I've seen.

I use it as a litmus test of sorts, in order to weed out those who prefer style over substance and to assess skill level. Players who prefer style over substance have a tendency to be shallow players and are frequently wrong with their reads and can be somewhat detrimental to a town win condition. For example, an argument can be presented using formal/informal logic but this is alignment neutral, since scum can do this just as easily as town and town is perfectly capable of being highly illogical and irrational with their responses. Players who have experience and skill can determine the motivations the posts, which is much more important IMHO.

This lays the groundwork for a town win.

win condition>>>scumhunting>>>figuring out who is actually your team is part of that process----> end result = lynching scum

But I am sure you know that.

Mafia is a game of psychology, at least that is how I see it. For me at least, there is a great deal of intuition involved as in I make leaps of reasoning that I cannot always easily explain (pattern spotting). Other players do too and I think it has to do with spotting a syntax structure of a particular post that points to a win condition different from their own, but unable to articulate why (gut readers). Or, in the instance of having an additional responsibility in the game i.e. a power role, holding more information than the rest of vanilla town players (their team) have.

tl;dr: I prefer those who prefer substance over style, they tend to be winners. and not just in mafia.

fake eta: this is about as nerdy as I will get but certainly not as nerdy as I get but I will spare you the rest.

fake eta2:

back to the regular scheduled programming ------>

Thank god. All that grammar from you was starting to scare me.

↑ buldermar wrote:

↑ Majiffy wrote:There is a distinct lack of her doing what she usually does as town.

I need to see more MollieUnderPressure though.

Well if you ISO her and count the scum reads versus the town reads it's quite obvious that she's delaying doing any town reads. Usually she bursts out with a bunch of town reads right away based on very few posts. And it's not a matter of her wanting to talk to mala first, because she is happily sharing scum reads and fos'ing.

erm...we have thrown a shit ton of town reads lol

but nice try!

↑ Piratecat wrote:

↑ The Goat wrote:Okay, I'll be the guy to ask. Why doesn't Mollie use caps and punctuation? She's quite erudite, from what I've seen.

I use it as a litmus test of sorts, in order to weed out those who prefer style over substance and to assess skill level. Players who prefer style over substance have a tendency to be shallow players and are frequently wrong with their reads and can be somewhat detrimental to a town win condition. For example, an argument can be presented using formal/informal logic but this is alignment neutral, since scum can do this just as easily as town and town is perfectly capable of being highly illogical and irrational with their responses. Players who have experience and skill can determine the motivations

behind

the posts, which is much more important IMHO.

This lays the groundwork for a town win.

win condition>>>scumhunting>>>figuring out who is actually

on

your team is part of that process----> end result = lynching scum

But I am sure you know that.

Mafia is a game of psychology, at least that is how I see it. For me at least, there is a great deal of intuition involved as in I make leaps of reasoning that I cannot always easily explain (pattern spotting). Other players do too and I think it has to do with spotting a syntax structure of a particular post that points to a win condition different from their own, but unable to articulate why (gut readers). Or, in the instance of having an additional responsibility in the game i.e. a power role, holding more information than the rest of vanilla town players (their team) have.

tl;dr: I prefer those who prefer substance over style, they tend to be winners. and not just in mafia.

fake eta: this is about as nerdy as I will get but certainly not as nerdy as I

can

get but I will spare you the rest.

fake eta2:

I love mafia thought the psychological aspect of it interests me more then the logical parts of the game.


Mollie you scare, and intrigue me at the same time

I love you too, marangala.

you guys haven't seen mala unleashed yet. she is her own force of nature.

eta: qwints was pinging my scumdar too but I need to get into a more in-depth analysis with mala about it

↑ Jal wrote:S'ok. I just wanted to see if you would post.

I don't think pushing Mrs M is that unpopular. No one has been giving crap to others about it, except for Mac himself. He sort of goes in-between respecting and acknowledging her claim, telling GIF why he shouldn't vote her (her claim), then calling her claim shit.

What?

You know, I can call her claim shit all I want because of the way she soft claimed it and my personal stance on it: that doesn't mean I'm going to risk voting/lynching a PR. And I don't think anyone should be voting her yet, hence I told GIF to unvote her. Plus I think he just skipped by it without realising.

I think you also asked for my scumreads too. Here:

Ms. M I'm obviously a bit suspect about. PC made a good point about the exchange between her and The Goat looking forced too, and reading back, I kinda agree with her too. So The Goat too.

I found GIF suspicious too for his flavor questioning early on, but I can't say Buldemar has continued this because I haven't really seen anything he's posted.

Uber/guile hydra is quiet. Too quiet. And Viomi has replaced in and posted absolutely zero content in her posts so far.

↑ Piratecat wrote:

↑ CryoChemist wrote:PM: What do you think of Slandaar in light of his quick acceptance to the 1v1? We read it as town due to the circumstances he was in when accepting. His reads may be shit (at least his read of us is), but recent activity doesn't add up to him being scum like we thought. Thoughts?

tbh I don't know. it was never a trolleytracking thing for me but it was his reasons behind it that didn't make sense. and probably has a lot to do with his speaking in absolutes and his inflexibility. I think his reads are shit cos I know our alignment. I have you as town but then why on earth are you going around and gladiator-ing everyone? this is the second player you have done this with and it is almost as if you

want

to be lynched.

can you talk to us about that

Only 1 of the heads of this hydra has really posted in this game and its the dont-give-a-shit-b/c-i-hate-being-vt head (cryo). You talk about it later, but we are willy nilly and do what we feel when we are town...we are much more cautious as scum. Building meta you know, so when we are scum, we can play all willy nilly like Jiffy does.

↑ Majiffy wrote:"Women" and their "feels"

we lol'ed...

↑ borkjerfkin wrote:

PC wrote:I am only reconsidering you as possible town cos cryo has a point about your willingness to go 1v1 with him. I have my reservations but we will see.

An aside, but this is actually a pretty good summation of why I don't like cryo('s playstyle?) -- his play consists of doing questionable WIFOM producing moves and then making snap judgments about the responses to those (when by their nature, scum needs to just try to figure out which side of the WIFOM they need to come out on)

Sorry you don't like our willy-nilliness.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:Angel Nero vote parking and clamming up?

Hmmm.

Vote: Angel Nero

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS MS, CAN WE ALL BAND TOGETHER AND DO THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^

VOTE: AN

who's MS?

Ms in general. The mafiascum server

cryo, plz don't be scum...

it will mean all of those "I love yous" were....

*chokes back sob*

*struggles to get out words*

LIES!!!!

*runs away sobbing*

↑ Mac wrote:

↑ Jal wrote:S'ok. I just wanted to see if you would post.

I don't think pushing Mrs M is that unpopular. No one has been giving crap to others about it, except for Mac himself. He sort of goes in-between respecting and acknowledging her claim, telling GIF why he shouldn't vote her (her claim), then calling her claim shit.

What?

You know, I can call her claim shit all I want because of the way she soft claimed it and my personal stance on it: that doesn't mean I'm going to risk voting/lynching a PR. And I don't think anyone should be voting her yet, hence I told GIF to unvote her. Plus I think he just skipped by it without realising.

I think you also asked for my scumreads too. Here:

Ms. M I'm obviously a bit suspect about. PC made a good point about the exchange between her and The Goat looking forced too, and reading back, I kinda agree with her too. So The Goat too.

I found GIF suspicious too for his flavor questioning early on, but I can't say Buldemar has continued this because I haven't really seen anything he's posted.

Uber/guile hydra is quiet. Too quiet. And Viomi has replaced in and posted absolutely zero content in her posts so far.

so marangala is not your scummate

that is good news

when did you peg me and mac as scum-mates?