In post 1306, Mac wrote:buldermar you are being very tentative with your scum reads. And I can't remember you ever being this tentative.
I think I've been pretty straightforward, I just havn't spend time trying to read all of the players in this game yet. Which of my reads do you think I'm being tentative with? I'll try to elaborate on my thoughts.
- b
your scum reads. they are "maybe A, maybe B, and one of {X/Y/Z} - it's cautious for you.
How the hell is that being cautious? Is it not plausible that I simply havn't made a strong scum read (not counting TD) at this point in time?
- b[/quote
if we were like 10 pages in and 200 posts then I would accept this counter argument. but as it stands there are 54 pages and 1342 posts and you are telling me that you have not gathered a single strong scum read from any of them? this is either poor scumhunting or fencesitting, and since I know you are a good player, I'm going for the latter.
I'm about to lose my temper, but I'll try to remain calm. I have not read nearly any of the longer posts, and many of the shorter ones, just to stay up with the pace of this game. It's inadequate time if anything, which does result in poor scumhunting in the sense that scumhunting efficiency correlates with time invested. I've asked f to sign up as a hydra in games with me rather than individual players because that way I hoped to not be forced to spend more time that I can afford right now (she can confirm, but that probably doesn't work for you).
- b
yep. I'm switching from my main to the 2 account as my pre-ins have come up. There's an example in the micro queue. 182 I think.
In post 1347, ² wrote:I'm about to lose my temper, but I'll try to remain calm. I have not read nearly any of the longer posts, and many of the shorter ones, just to stay up with the pace of this game. It's inadequate time if anything, which does result in poor scumhunting in the sense that scumhunting efficiency correlates with time invested. I've asked f to sign up as a hydra in games with me rather than individual players because that way I hoped to not be forced to spend more time that I can afford right now (she can confirm, but that probably doesn't work for you).
- b
yep. I'm switching from my main to the 2 account as my pre-ins have come up. There's an example in the micro queue. 182 I think.
- f
sigh
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:50 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
Dear game: I'm sorry I keep forgetting that you exist.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:54 pm
by borkjerfkin
TheReverend replaces Svenskt Stål!
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:58 pm
by TheReverend
Hi guys, it will obviously take some time for me to read up.
In post 649, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Alright I'm off to sleep. Someone make sure Buldermar doesn't have access to a keyboard tomorrow so I don't come back to another 25 pages.
Well? You got back on and look! Another 30 fucking pages!
In post 906, ² wrote:Maybe I was biased because he has been scum the last trillion games we have played together, and he has been trying to get me lynched in all of them.
Well I can't kill you cuz you're obvtown and protective roles are always on you, so my only choice is to try to get you lynched!
In post 934, ² wrote:I had to go back five pages to find where I last posted. Wow.
Imagine having to go back 30.
In post 952, TiphaineDeath wrote:Classic backing down in response to reverse pressure, lynch this scum please.
Kind of like your classic vote-the-most-viable-wagon-that-isn't-you?
Ok I was going to decide whether to claim miller or not after I'd read, but I see my predecessor already has.
Confirm I am miller.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:10 pm
by Nachomamma8
In post 1356, TheReverend wrote:Ok I was going to decide whether to claim miller or not after I'd read, but I see my predecessor already has.
Confirm I am miller.
You just scumslipped.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:10 pm
by Nachomamma8
2 is also scum. I'm hungover, so reluctant to properly catchup in a lot of my games. I'll be around.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:16 pm
by TheReverend
Haha explain to me please how I scumslipped, because that would be a rather impressive thing for town to do.
I do not care if I am lynched today. I would go as far as to encourage it if there's serious doubt about my role. But you can at least wait for me to read up and post my thoughts.
In post 1356, TheReverend wrote:Ok I was going to decide whether to claim miller or not after I'd read, but I see my predecessor already has.
Confirm I am miller.
You just scumslipped.
I think I see where, but to be sure can you clarify?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:26 pm
by Nachomamma8
Your predecessor claimed Miller Tracker before he went out. I could see you claiming Miller as town Miller Tracker, sure. I could not see you playing the whole "I don't care if I'm lynched today" if you were also a power role on top of the miller aspect, though. I also didn't like that you had excuses for the late Miller claim after replacing in.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:30 pm
by BROseidon
Going to wait for reverend to post his thoughts but yeah.
That's pretty incriminating.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:30 pm
by BROseidon
Will wait for him to post thoughts before making a call, though. Sven was coming off as very town to me.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:33 pm
by Cabd
Yeah, so I was right after all. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Alarm bells. GuyInFreezer is my first scum read. The use of "gut" to explain a townread is weak, imo.
Orc is very probably town though. He's pressing people, scumhunting, he's even questioning why people have a scumr ead on him. I'm only up to page 4 but orc is easily the most active person.
In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
I like this post. I've been scum before with two legit miller claims out there. I was happy to sit back and let town warp itself into a steaming pile of wtf.
Here, have my flavour too... Tyrea, Colonist Aligned Miller Tracker.
I don't care if I die today because a) miller sucks and causes too many problems for town, and b) tracker is not a great role, in my experience.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:36 pm
by TheReverend
Sorry I've got my posts mixed up, multitabbing etc.
He claimed tracker as well? This is why I wanted to read up before claiming. If I was just miller, I would've just claimed first post. But the fact I have a PR on top of my miller role means that I wanted time to assess my move.
I also didn't like that you had excuses for the late Miller claim after replacing in.
You expect me to know he's claimed miller before I post? I posted, what, 4 minutes after mod confirms I'm in... clearly I haven't read anything at this stage.
I'm town miller, and yes I'm tracker too.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:42 pm
by Cabd
Beyond this tag be storyline spoilers quoted from TVT:
Spoiler:
Tyrea is Yumea's daugther, and by extension Kallian's half-sister and an agent working for the Bionite order. She helps Yumea conspire to assassinate Sorean's daugther, Melia in the High Entia Tomb, but is interrupted and defeated by Shulk's group before she has a chance to kill her. She then escapes after her defeat and isn't seen again until after the Mechonis Core events where more of her origins are discovered. The party finds Tyrea in the front gates of Colony 6 and discover that Tyrea is Yumea's daugther by Melia. After recovering on Junks, she leaves the Colony only to find trace energy of Ether before being attacked. The party will then witness a Telethia attack the colony reconstruction HQ, and follow it to Makna Forest. When the party encounters the Telethia, initially thinking it to be a transformed Tyrea, they engage and defeat it. However, Tyrea soon appears unscathed and reveals the Telethia was actually her mother, Yumea, and thanks them for granting her peace before leaving herself. It is also revealed during this sidequest that she is also a half-Hom, despite her long wings.
I could see the miller fitting with flavor maaaaaybe, but it's nothing definite.
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.
Nacho, why the "town as fuck" read on GiF? Forgive me if something has been said since this post that implies town, but up until this post he's my sole scum read. Agree about cabd and orc though.
This guy is scummy. Leaving the miller around is a beautiful scum strategy, because as endgame approaches, the miller becomes easier and easier mislynch bait.
GiF and BRO so far.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:57 pm
by Sajin
Sven/Reverend is still town.
In post 1361, Nachomamma8 wrote:Your predecessor claimed Miller Tracker before he went out. I could see you claiming Miller as town Miller Tracker, sure. I could not see you playing the whole "I don't care if I'm lynched today" if you were also a power role on top of the miller aspect, though. I also didn't like that you had excuses for the late Miller claim after replacing in.
Really Nacho? Are you town this game?
I need to read some more fferylit.
@Varsoon: Do you have any intention of addressing any of the points I brought up against you in post 1006? Or will you continue to not answer concerns?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:00 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
I dig above post
Except for nacho comment. Nacho is town
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:01 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
His reads suck though
GiF and BRO are both town.
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:03 pm
by TheReverend
I think nacho is town too, but I'm only up to beginning of page six.
So far...
Town = orc, cabd and to lesser extent nacho
Scum = GiF, BRO
Everyone else is null. I'm going to bed, it's 4am here, I will resume my read through tomorrow afternoon.
pedit - lol... to be fair orc, my reads are based on first six pages, and you're giving BRO a pretty hard time at that stage of the game.
In post 1356, TheReverend wrote:Ok I was going to decide whether to claim miller or not after I'd read, but I see my predecessor already has.
Confirm I am miller.
You just scumslipped.
I don't see it.
In post 1361, Nachomamma8 wrote:Your predecessor claimed Miller Tracker before he went out. I could see you claiming Miller as town Miller Tracker, sure. I could not see you playing the whole "I don't care if I'm lynched today" if you were also a power role on top of the miller aspect, though. I also didn't like that you had excuses for the late Miller claim after replacing in.
This is a whole lot of wat to me.
In post 1362, BROseidon wrote:Going to wait for reverend to post his thoughts but yeah.
That's pretty incriminating.
In post 1364, Cabd wrote:Yeah, so I was right after all. That's exactly what I was thinking.
