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I have been a little rude in this exchange. I apologize.

P-edit: yes, and that's the opposite of what you originally said, but good job changing the goal posts!

I didn't go with it for the reasons you seem to think, but I'm going to step away from this game for the night.

Just don't anyone hammer me before I have a chance to analyze the ns wagon, please.

lol analyze the NS wagon. A wagon that we all joined to compromise. Most contrived effort to appear town I've seen.

I think there was at least 1 scum on the NS wagon, and 1 scum off the NS wagon. The 4th is wherever, idk.

I looked back at Amrun's unvote after I supposedly "hammered", and upon second thought it looks really forced if you ask me, like her reaction my vote looks really fake. Amrun was also eager to restart the AP wagon by saying AP's reaction was scum ( which it really wasn't ), and then didn't partake in the NS wagon... why?

In post 1351, Wisdom wrote:lol analyze the NS wagon. A wagon that we all joined to compromise. Most contrived effort to appear town I've seen.

It was a compromise wagon, but his scum buddies knew he was scum so there is bound to be information there.

I'm pretty fed up with this game so I'm kind of hoping I get lynched but that is bad and anti-town so I will do the thing no one else will do and analyze the behavior of who compromised/didn't compromise and when. Then if I get lynched I won't have to feel bad.

On the plus side, we finally followed my plan today and it is by far the most pro-town lynch pool yet! Small victory there.

I have never known what the whole "... fills me with the urge to defecate" in Pink Floyd's really meant until I read this conversation between you two and am suddenly overcome with a gigantic urge to tie you both down and just shit all over you for making me read such a ridiculously fucking retardedly dumb as fuck argument.

Seriously, fuck you both. I want my 10 minutes back.

I sympathize. Truly.

Toink

VOTE: Amrun

In post 1355, Amrun wrote:I sympathize. Truly.

<3

Sometimes it's just gotta be said.

In post 1342, Amrun wrote:Because that is how the English language works. "Explain why he said he has a town read on you." "I can't."

This only happened after I asked you the question. The fact I had to prompt you to do this, is already telling in itself.
And evena fter the prompt you were considerably vague. Instead of saying "No.", you said "Even if I could, I wouldn't", which is simply not an answer.

In post 1358, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 1342, Amrun wrote:Because that is how the English language works. "Explain why he said he has a town read on you." "I can't."

This only happened after I asked you the question. The fact I had to prompt you to do this, is already telling in itself.
And evena fter the prompt you were considerably vague. Instead of saying "No.", you said "Even if I could, I wouldn't", which is simply not an answer.

Except it is an answer. Why you would ask me to explain why someone else has a town read on me is beyond me anyway. It's so fucking stupid I can't even comprehend it.

Ps "even if I could" means that I can't which means "I don't know" which is an answer.

And that patently debunks your solidly retarded theory.

Oh and also I no longer think you're town.

But wisdom still is. Even though you're both being equally stupid.

Why don't I take my own advice and walk away

Whyyyyy

Sorry

In post 1360, Amrun wrote:Ps "even if I could" means that I can't which means "I don't know" which is an answer.

lol

lynchplz

*licks the window*

And after that Elyse needs to go.
I did what Amrun said she would do, and noticed how in the NS-wagon Elyse was already sure and certain that Nobody Special was scum, despite the glaring lack of content from his side.

Yes, yes, three scum in a row?

*drools on window*

*licks window some more*

Any word on the red QT?

In post 1319, Elyse wrote:Ok.

So I was like "

I'll assume you're town

and I'll post my thoughts because I'm not going to give you that much anyway if you're scum."

And then Safety was like "Well if you're town that would turn this into a Mason pairing I think and that would make it easier. Not sure on numbers what the likelihood would be. I should read the OP but can a mafia pair even in a QT like this be possible? 12 players, 6 teams, 3-4 scum, so two all-town teams?"

It seems to me like he's working off the assumption that scum aren't doubled up in teams, which he would know if he was scum.

The thing in bold: Whut? Why would you do that?

His conclusion that this would become a Mason pairing is faulty, because you have no mutual confirmation that you're town. Him implying he already has such a strong townread on you is scummy.

The question about scum pairing, I don't know, seems like a pointless question to ask regardless of alignment.

SafetyDance: Do you confirm this conversation taking place?

If it did, I might have to re-assess my views on elyse.

In post 1323, Wisdom wrote:Yeah. So I can see the scenario where Safety-scum knows there's a 2scum pairing (enomis & Amrun), and exactly because he has this knowledge in mind he thinks of that question to ask, in order to appear town. So if anything, I think that points to the existence of 2scum pairing rather than the opposite, given Safety is scum ofc.

Agreed.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: enomis

The current state of the title always reminds me of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

Proceed.

(I don't care who goes first, Amrun, enomis or Safety Dance, but, well, I prefer Amrun to go first because I'm kind of proud of what I found.)

enomis posted elsewhere and avoided this game, so I'm more confident that he's lurking scum.

I can't discuss any ongoing games, but I have reasons not consider this a crucial argument.

In post 1368, Grimgroove wrote:The current state of the title always reminds me of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

Proceed.

(I don't care who goes first, Amrun, enomis or Safety Dance, but, well, I prefer Amrun to go first because I'm kind of proud of what I found.)

is this real because even you abandoned "what you found" because it is nonsensical. Both of you acknowledge I didn't know what wisdom meant, which means that what you found cannot be true.

In post 1371, Amrun wrote:

In post 1368, Grimgroove wrote:The current state of the title always reminds me of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw

Proceed.

(I don't care who goes first, Amrun, enomis or Safety Dance, but, well, I prefer Amrun to go first because I'm kind of proud of what I found.)

is this real because even you abandoned "what you found" because it is nonsensical. Both of you acknowledge I didn't know what wisdom meant, which means that what you found cannot be true.

I never did such a thing. I am still the same idiot of yesterday.

Hi.

First of all, can anybody tell me why i am scum besides poe? I am curious how wisdom and elyse has me as confirm scum.

Secondly, i can say that this is the second game i have lurked in my mafiascum life. The first being Polygamy. I can say i am one of the most active peeps in any other game that you can find.
Firstly, i lurked in polygamy because i had too much game that time and i could not get a read in polygamy game. So it is not really indicative of alignment.
You can see that i don't lurk as scum. Although i only have one scum game completed and that one is like in 2011.(but the data is deleted in site crash). All the other are town games.

To be frank, now i know why i couldn't get a single read in polygamy game. In addition to having too many games, the main problem is people are arguing shitty arguments, ate all over the thread and just spam attacking each other and completely missing the point of their original argument. It is wisdom v VV + whoever that game. This game is worse, wisdom + AP + Grim + Amrun all come together and just spam arguing over useless stuff. This makes me dun bother about this game.

I was really excited coming into this game, seeing the mechanics and all. I wanted to be a real factor. So you can see i was much more active in the early stages. But when wisdom and grim starts arguing over stupid stuff, spaming all over the thread arguing about things that don't even matter this makes me just skim the thread. Even if i read something that matters, after skimming finish the wisdom/grim debacle, i will have forgotten what i think that matters.... Then after that, i wanted to rely on my partner Amrun, since i had her as town. Then, our chat was also a fail. I get the feeling that she is just posting in the qt for the sake of posting. This makes me even more irritated and i just completely heck cared about this thread. I come in every once in a while, skim the thread of useless arguments, then get nothing out of it. This really sucks.

Now, i am making the effort to get into the game. I am gathering my motivation to post in this thread. Please don't make is a spam wall AGAIN.
I will out whatever limited reads i have.

Grim is town. I had him peck as scum once which i forgot the reason. But he is town. His overall playstyle demits that he is town. I find especially the "I don't know what is going on anymore" a genuine town tell and not scum faking it. His overall play also seems like he is trying to scumhunt(Something i got from amrun).

Wisdom is leaning town. I had him peck as scum too. Because his playstyle is too similar to the one on the polygamy game. But i was a bit paranoid because i only know his scum meta and it could be his meta to just argue over stupid stuff and pushing weak arguments. But the latest debacale about AP gave me the read that he is town. I find the points he said about AP really good and he seem to really believed in it. Believed that AP screwed up and think AP is scum. I find it hard for scum to fake this. But of course, if AP is scum, I think wisdom is likely scum.

Mollie: I had him as town but the overreaction in the beginning of the game really freaks me out. I feel that the overreaction may be scum trying to use ATE to prove that he is scum. But i still think that the case of him having townread on Majiffy is real. I don't think scum can fake the logic of him having townread on Majiffy although i don't really understand his logic for townreading Majiffy. This can be called gut too.
Thats why he is only null-town.

Majiffy: I don't know what to think of him. I am playing in three games with him and he plays the same way, just with some differences. But he hasn't flipped in any of the games and i find it hard to see if the differences can help me to pinpoint his scum games difference from his town games.
I feel good putting as town for now. The vote/push on nobodyspecial seems good although i never really read how nobody special got lynched.

Elyse: I remember having read something very towny about her but i forgot what it was. Maybe i will iso her the day after tmr or something to see if i can remember it. But the overall feel of her is abit scummy. I don't like how she come out with her reads. Looks a little fake. Like how Safety/enomis is conf scum. Is she that confident in her POE that she can say that? And the fact that her POE did not give her 4 conf scum, I don't see how she could be so confident in this.

Amrun: I had him as town. And now, frankly, i dunnoe what to think of him.I will just put him as null.

Venmar: Null. I can see what he do. Reaction testing, tunneling. But i am failing to see either town motivation or scum motivation from these actions. I feel that both are very probable. I don't know what to think about him.

Safety:Null

Did i miss anyone?

Oh ya AP: Leaning town but i can see the possibility of him faking the whole ate shit. Something is telling me that he used what he did that day + a little bit of exaggeration like saying scumbag infront of com and some shit, to try to ATE himself out of the lynch. But another side of me is saying he is genuine. I will believe that he is genuine for now.


Also, I see wisdom saying i post in other threads but not this.
Obv, i ignored this thread because i couldn't be bothered to read this in the afternoon on my mobile.

Note: Usually, i will respond to the thread if i am interested in it and my reply is short. If i am planning to make a larger argument or smth, i will usually wait until i get home on my com.

Tmr, i will not be having access to my com. I have access to it thru mobile though. If situation permits it, i will check on the thread and post thru mobile tmr. No guarantees though.