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Btw though, Luna > Mitillos even if my role is useless.

a brief record of something written down to assist the memory or for future reference.

Vote Count 3.05

Luna Lovegood

( 2 ) DeasVail , PeaceBringer

Dante

( 0 )

DeasVail

( 0 )

Shadowy Poison

( 0 )

Rail Tracer

( 1 ) Kmd4390

PeaceBringer

( 2 ) Kid A

ooba

( 0 )

Kmd4390

( 1 ) Majiffy

Kid A

( 0 )

Mitillos

( 4 ) ooba , Rail Tracer , Shadowy Poison , BBmolla

RadiantCowbells

( 0 )

Majiffy

( 0 )

BBmolla

( 1 ) RadiantCowbells

Not voting:

Luna Lovegood , Dante , Mitillos

With 13 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is in

moving the luna direction is a good idea.. good chance that Deas is worthless though

In post 1330, Rail Tracer wrote:massclaim now?

i'm thinking a mass claim could work today. there's already a fair amount of claims on the table, and DV softclaiming something, etc etc.

Massclaim would be good if all of the roles are pretty much useless. I'm not so confident that's the case.

In post 1342, Mitillos wrote:@ooba: Suppose BB (actually, I was asking RC, but whatever) said that they didn't have daytalk. What would you have done? If you are saying that my question was unnecessary, then you were accepting Peace's claim, without checking it. This is either foolish or scummy.

I want you to start talking about your reads.

In post 1343, DeasVail wrote:I will almost fullclaim. If you want me to completely fullclaim after this, just let me know.

Why aren't you completely fullclaiming? So scum don't know if you're a threat or not?

I'm probably going to lynch Mitillos if he doesn't step it the fuck up/DeasVail's result on him isn't interesting.

i have to be awake in like 5 hours then i'm somewhat busy, but i'll look at your luna case tomorrow when i have time, DV. i'm prob also gonna start putting together a VCA and stuff. been lazy, and this game is stagnating.

When I was reading DV's claim I thought "Yes - One regular cop + one paranoid cop who has a chance to get normalized + a mafia fakeclaim for naive cop who appears semi confirmed because of the naive\paranoid combo = good balance" - unfortunately, the innocent on BBM blows that theory out of the water.

But DV, why did you claim? It's clear from your posting that even you aren't too convinced with your result on Mitilos. However, if you were a useful regular cop - don't you think you've played your hand too early??

In post 1342, Mitillos wrote:@ooba: Suppose BB (actually, I was asking RC, but whatever) said that they didn't have daytalk. What would you have done? If you are saying that my question was unnecessary, then you were accepting Peace's claim, without checking it. This is either foolish or scummy.

- Peace claimed QT daytalk enabler
- Now if BB\RC did not have day talk in his QT, he would have counterclaimed Peace right away!!
I tend not to favor the "find illogical arguments and push people on it" type of scum hunting much (because what most people consider 'tells' on this site are actually null) and am more a gut player. That's why I gave you another chance to think things through and clearly you can't put yourself in townie shoes. I love the "foolish or scummy" bit too.

I still had a lot of doubt when I voted Mit (esp. since it looked like BBM couldn't be scum with him) but his behaviour+replies are making me feel better about it.

Qualifying exam in just over an hour.
Reread and hopefully reads some time after that. (Assuming I don't fail and am too depressed to give a shit.)

p-edit: @ooba: Would they have? Especially RC, who didn't talk much and presumably wasn't paying much attention. In any case, gut is meaningless to me. Your digestive organs don't do much thinking, except as regards the processing of food. Contradictions have nothing to do with "tells". If two people have contradictory stories, someone is lying. Town is expected to not lie, so someone is scum.

Dodge

I'll post here in a few hours

In post 1358, Pinksmoke wrote:Dodge

I'll post here in a few hours

Looks like we were prodded anyway >.>

UNVOTE:

For now though, I would still love a response from Cow

In post 1356, ooba wrote:But DV, why did you claim? It's clear from your posting that even you aren't too convinced with your result on Mitilos. However, if you were a useful regular cop - don't you think you've played your hand too early??

Um, you were one of the people asking for more of a claim... (and I'm pretty sure my role is useless).

And yeah Luna, even though it really doesn't matter much in the end, I may as well leave that part out.

Mitillos is a fine lynch, but I still feel that Luna is better.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Luna

In post 384, he says to SK that "their roles work together, so they should work together". SK had only claimed "negative utility". BB eventually claimed naive cop, neighbour with RC. This makes absolutely no sense. His jump on Luna, which simply came about (apparently) from the fact that DV said they'd be a better lynch doesn't sit well with me, either.

Now for my other reads:
Dante: Same as before. I was asked to elaborate on him before and I did. Since then, it's been more of the same. He's town.

DV: If he turns out to be an investigative role but on a faction that doesn't exist, then I hate N for reminding me of Discworld mafia and the whole seer modjoke fiasco in that game. I still don't like his push on Luna, but I definitely think he's town.

Kid A: Double-voter. I doubt he would be scum. I'd like him to finish reading and give some reads of his own, as well as proper justification for his vote. This was also something that bothered me with MUM; too many votes without explanations. Probably town.

kmd: Voted me on D2, sat on that vote, without explanation and then on D3 asked people what the case on me was. The weak scumhunting now just seems faked. This one is also scum. Willing to vote him, as well.

Luna: There's some Luna hate around, mainly because of the request for a public reveal of the possibility of a mod error. I do not see this as scummy. Consequently, my read hasn't changed. Town.

Majiffy: His predecessors were town. He is also town. So, town.

ooba: Playstyle differences aside, I'd say he's been one of the most sincere scumhunters this game. Still town.

Peace, Rail, RC and Shadow in a later post, as I'm feeling somewhat tired, at the moment.

Okay let's look back, why did I think my claim was possibly legit? Because I thought framer triumped sanity.

So I would think Miller would have the same effect.

So obviously I would think that would work within this setup of cop misdirection and different sanities.

Not my claim, my night result.

Your naive result would somehow be fixed by a Miller? Not seeing this. Can you explain? What exactly would you do, what would SK do (if he were a Miller) and how would this make your investigations go from naive to sane?

I'm not sure how to feel about Mitillos's vote because he's my second biggest scumread.

In post 1365, Mitillos wrote:Your naive result would somehow be fixed by a Miller? Not seeing this. Can you explain? What exactly would you do, what would SK do (if he were a Miller) and how would this make your investigations go from naive to sane?

It wouldn't make me sane. But I figured the "results show up as guilty" would triumph over the "results are always innocent."

In post 1285, BBmolla wrote:I'd sheep Luna, but the players in there are sort of disappointing me readwise so far.

?

After tomorrow morning, I'll be gone for 6 days on V/LA.

Just letting y'alls know.

You know what wagon I'd be pushing if I was here, though!

Hmph. Naive means you don't see the scumminess in anyone. There's no reason to think that your role would work that way with a miller. But, alright, if that is what you say you thought, I will think about it some more.




Also scum. Needs rope.

Prodded.

Mit I voted you because I asked who I should sheep before I read and was told you. I asked what the case was because I didn't know and saw a wagon. Rail Tracer is the real scum.

I'd like to see where this leads.