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NH pushing Fire lying about his action sounds like bs to me.

SirCakez can you walk me through why your read on NH went from scum to town over the first three days, and where it stands now

Objective play here is to no lynch.

I'll be updating my reads tomorrow and answering anything I missed.

Dealing with taxes.

~Titus

i'm okay with a NL

fine with NL as well, would like answers from NH/SC first though

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:SirCakez can you walk me through why your read on NH went from scum to town over the first three days, and where it stands now

I can go more in detail when I get home but basically I hated their entire push on me because it was full of misrep (faking my reads for example) but then once they moved past me they improved. My read started sinking again when this whole Fire/GL/NH situation came up and it makes a lot more sense for NH to be scum then you since Fire was town.

Man I feel kinda bad being told I'm "coasting" and "not doing much" when I'm the only one who presented a reasonable case outside of the role interactions and reliant mostly on interactions with flipped scum. I guess though that I'm easy to discredit.

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:

↑ Night Hunters wrote:It also makes me feel really uncomfortable about how "confused" players are jumping at this 1 v 1.

Who were you referring to here?

I think zefiend and Nahdia are both town. Did either of you get scum vibes from SirCakez opening post today? The "not sure if MyLo or not" feels fake.

I can see scum!massive but it's mostly by proxy of him coasting all game. He's in my lynchpool but SirCakez's "yeah sure" attitude makes me hesitate.

NH

- read on massive? Why didn't you respond to Nahdia suggesting to lynch him?

Yeah I did get scumvibes from Cakey there. Doubly so based on his insistence not to consider the possibility that Fire lied. That scenario is the only way for you to be town.

For balance reasons, a scum ascetic makes little sense and assumptions should always be checked in mylo. I didn't really like Cakey in the beginning and I am not liking him here.

I think that the answer is Cakey Nahdia (formerly Jeanne). By seeing who Nahdia would push and waiting to see if SHE followed up I could tell more about her alignment.

I would like your feedback on this being the answer.

NH can we also talk about your distinct lack of results? What with the Firebringer "weird jailkeep" it makes me wonder if you guys need to re-read your role PM. How many of your blocked nights do you think are due to Fire, and how many to some unknown other RB?

I have no reason to doubt you at this moment (the "gambit" D2 is awful extensive, with unnecessary mod corrections, to risk for just one mislynch) but three nights of "we were blocked" is excessive.

Why would Fire lie? Give me a good explanation for this.

Titus thinks that fire lied because he didn't trust us. I kinda see what titus is thinking but I don't know if fire would be that stupid (no offense :$).

Titus needs to get dickslapped by my good pal Occam.

Like, for real

↑ Nahdia wrote:Titus needs to get dickslapped by my good pal Occam.

I had an affair with him after that flip.

↑ massive wrote:NH can we also talk about your distinct lack of results? What with the Firebringer "weird jailkeep" it makes me wonder if you guys need to re-read your role PM. How many of your blocked nights do you think are due to Fire, and how many to some unknown other RB?

I have no reason to doubt you at this moment (the "gambit" D2 is awful extensive, with unnecessary mod corrections, to risk for just one mislynch) but three nights of "we were blocked" is excessive.

N1 - We checked Shadow. Fire blocked shadow; thus blocking us.
N2/N3 - Blocked, presumably by Fire. We tried tracking Fire both nights, got no result each time.

↑ Nahdia wrote:Titus needs to get dickslapped by my good pal Occam.

So what is "the easiest answer is the right answer" here?

Something that doesn't involve assuming a townie literally lied about their night actions because "he didn't trust me". That's dumb.

↑ Night Hunters wrote:

↑ massive wrote:NH can we also talk about your distinct lack of results? What with the Firebringer "weird jailkeep" it makes me wonder if you guys need to re-read your role PM. How many of your blocked nights do you think are due to Fire, and how many to some unknown other RB?

I have no reason to doubt you at this moment (the "gambit" D2 is awful extensive, with unnecessary mod corrections, to risk for just one mislynch) but three nights of "we were blocked" is excessive.

N1 - We checked Shadow. Fire blocked shadow; thus blocking us.
N2/N3 - Blocked, presumably by Fire. We tried tracking Fire both nights, got no result each time.

What do you mean, "Fire blocked shadow; thus blocking us?" You explicitly said you were blocked that night.

we would have gotten no result on shadow if fire jailed shadow because fire's jail makes the target ascetic. I think there is a scum roleblocker in the setup but tonight fire can't block us so if there is a scum roleblocker (which there most likely is) we will know and not be wondering what is happening. actually idk if that really does anything. I wish fire would never lie about his target so like titus wouldn't start thinking it possible.

"He didn't trust us" is not a good explanation. Just sounds like reaching.

↑ Nahdia wrote:Something that doesn't involve assuming a townie literally lied about their night actions because "he didn't trust me". That's dumb.

But you don't have any idea what it ACTUALLY might be?

what're u tryin to say, friendo?

If we want to occam's razor this guiltylion should be the lynch.