Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

I think scum has at least one role to save themselves from a lynching group

[zMuffinMan]

If both of you survive today we get no info in that front

realistically if he's scum, he's probably going to use it anyway and if he's town, it's a waste when it's better to maintain a higher number

if him flipping is information, so is you flipping (

except you're confirmed town so that's bad obviously

)

but i'm sure you're not going to lie down and die either

[Eddie Cane]

We have a swapper, a selfswapper, a selfmover, and a mover soft

Its obvious it exists

I am known to fake soft to bait kills though, so its possible I'm vt

[Eddie Cane]

Guys

Scum being able to move others would be overpowered

Scum able to move themselves makes sense

That’s a scumclaim from cakez

Um

No?

[zMuffinMan]

I’m a little put out that I might not be lynched. I was kind of looking forward to the dead thread.

don't worry! i'll still most likely grant your wish!

[zMuffinMan]

this is more symbolic than anything at the moment, but:

Vote: Group 2

[Wisdom]

muffin is more likely the scum here but no way he will just let us kill them
While cakez at least entertains the possibility of not using it

[zMuffinMan]

yeah. here's the thing

even before cakez's claim i was pretty much considering that lynching group 2 was still the best play today; cakez's claim does nothing to change this

how interesting that wisdom is pushing the TvS angle and suddenly suggesting that a mechanical lynch (based on role) is a good thing

[Wisdom]

We are never fucking lynching g2
You trying to only makes you look worse

[Kokichi Oma]

Lynching Group 2 is a scumclaim when cakes already scumclaimed by doing the 180. You guys had your chance to lynch group 2. Not anymore

[zMuffinMan]

btw, wisdom, do you currently think dram is scum or why did you switch your choice to the REAL MAN?

[Wisdom]

Also nice perspective there
I said it the moment you suggested those roles exist that not all are town
Yet you make it appear as if its something i came up with now

[zMuffinMan]

cakes already scumclaimed by doing the 180

what does this mean?

[SirCakez]

Lynching Group 2 is a scumclaim when cakes already scumclaimed by doing the 180. You guys had your chance to lynch group 2. Not anymore

I STILL don't understand how that was a 180 ffs

[Kokichi Oma]

I dont think based on roles they are tvs. Since scum probably have some power that has not been claimed yet. I could see scum being able to move 2 people from one group to another

[Kokichi Oma]

Cakes waited until after riku was swapped to say he wanted to lynch group 2 when he was advocating group 3 the whole time before

[Wisdom]

btw, wisdom, do you currently think dram is scum or why did you switch your choice to the REAL MAN?

No, I think hes town
I just think realman is townier
Bonus that dram is toxic and im good with him dying

[zMuffinMan]

I said it the moment you suggested those roles exist that not all are town

no, you didn't. or if you did i missed it. i remember you asking me the question, though

but for someone who has been so strongly pushing that we shouldn't make the OPTIMAL CHOICE because of reads, i find it hilarious that you can push that angle without blinking an eyelid

who actually has a townread on wisdom and why?

[Wisdom]

The question was a means of saying i think theyre not all town, thats obvious

[zMuffinMan]

i put it in the same category as someone asking a benign "do you think everyone in your neighbourhood is town?" question

[Wisdom]

but for someone who has been so strongly pushing that we shouldn't make the OPTIMAL CHOICE because of reads, i find it hilarious that you can push that angle without blinking an eyelid

You're acting as if im pushing something thats against my reads
Its been no secret im scumreading you and cakez

[Kokichi Oma]

Muffin could just be bad town. I dont see why he'd keep arguing as scum when he can save himself

[zMuffinMan]

You're acting as if im pushing something thats against my reads
Its been no secret im scumreading you and cakez

no

i'm pointing out that you're now making a strictly mechanical claim (that one of cakez and i must be scum based on role)

this isn't a reads-based claim

[Pine]

I said it the moment you suggested those roles exist that not all are town

no, you didn't. or if you did i missed it. i remember you asking me the question, though

but for someone who has been so strongly pushing that we shouldn't make the OPTIMAL CHOICE because of reads, i find it hilarious that you can push that angle without blinking an eyelid

who actually has a townread on wisdom and why?

I’m waffling on Wis

Mostly I’ve been focusing on D1 and hoping that solves the problem, or at least that trying to read that enigma becomes Not My Problem anymore.

[Pine]

Also, come on people. A role that can only move itself has ZERO Town utility and TONS of scum utility. Cakez is scumzor.