Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[Nancy Drew 39]

why would scum push nico of all people specifically to save obvscum

that makes no sense

Are you kidding me? Nico hardclaimed investigative. Of course scum wants that slot dead. How are you not seeing that?

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you do that during the night, not during the day

unless there's a damn good reason to

Well of course, there’s a good reason to. If scum can get a villa mislynched, more KP for them. And why wouldn’t scum try to save their buddy from being lynched? Are you seriously this egregiously on the wrong track here or just WIFOMMING us because what you’re saying makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[Reality Check]

well yeah it's good for scum if it goes through

the problem is it's DOA

it's never going through

so there's no point in scum pushing it

[Reality Check]

the general principle sure, but nico as a target is nonsensical

[the worst]

I'm kinda townreading rando a fair bit btw

[Nancy Drew 39]

so AA9 starts pushing the nicowagon after she obvtowns

In your opinion, not EVERYONE’S. I already explained it. Nico hardclaimed investigative. There is most likely a doc in this game who will protect her from the NK. Scum has no idea who Nico will investigate and a Nico guilty seals their fate. I seriously don’t believe we’re even debating this.

I’m really not liking you defending Angel who’s very likely obvscum at this point, based on the worst’s 99.99 % bankable Creature scumread. No way does town!Angel (town!Anyone at this point) hardtown read Creature at this point.

[Reality Check]

you're looking at events alone rather than in context of the game as a whole again

[Reality Check]

see I think a lot of the reason you were never able to understand anything I was saying in necromancer was for this exact reason

I look at things in the longer term and see if something fits, it kind of feels like you keep thinking I'm wrong or scummy because whatever I'm commenting on at the moment isn't very sensical by itself

except it does make sense... just when you look beyond it

[Nancy Drew 39]

well yeah it's good for scum if it goes through

the problem is it's DOA

it's never going through

so there's no point in scum pushing it

Angel is obviously trying to save their scumpal. This conversation is pointless. Angel is 99.99% w/w with Creature if he (almost certainly) flips scum.

At this point, I am highly sus about anyone other than random (who is on the only other probable scum wagon) who refuses to switch their vote to Creature. We need an 8 vote majority and anyone who remains off-wagon is being anti-town, IMO.

[Nancy Drew 39]

see I think a lot of the reason you were never able to understand anything I was saying in necromancer was for this exact reason

I look at things in the longer term and see if something fits, it kind of feels like you keep thinking I'm wrong or scummy because whatever I'm commenting on at the moment isn't very sensical by itself

except it does make sense... just when you look beyond it

Pretend I’m lobotomized then, spell it out for me.

[Nancy Drew 39]

the general principle sure, but nico as a target is nonsensical

No, it’s not - not even remotely.

Well all my braincells have permanently been killed off, try convincing me of that then.

[Nancy Drew 39]

the general principle sure, but nico as a target is nonsensical

No, it’s not - not even remotely.

Well all my braincells have permanently been killed off, try convincing me of that then.

You have also very wrongly claimed that Creature is a “no info” lynch, when anyone who is reading the current gamestate accurately, can clearly see how much bs that is.

Creature is almost certainly w/w with Angel and I can find plenty of posts linking Rennais to both of them - especially Angel but I want to give GIF a fair shot in helping us get an accurate read on him because maybe there is some alternative explanation for Rennais connection to either of them. The jury’s still out on that slot but not on Angel, if Creature (almost certainly) flips scum.

[Nancy Drew 39]

welp

I'm getting more confident that I'm on the right track after that AA9 post

Huh? I've explained why I think the way I do. You disagree with the way I think. That doesn't mean what I think is "random." Nor does it mean that I'm "ignoring" your position - I disagree with it, period. I'm not going to clutter the game up with a point-by-point argument and rebuttal about something that doesn't impact our alignments - you think one way, I think another, and the position I hold is one that's quite reasonable and normal for a townie to hold.

Let me ask you this: is it unfathomable to you that a townie would believe that lynching guaranteed scum is the pro-town choice rather than lynching for information? You think townies wouldn't think the way I do about this theory issue?

it's not scummy to think lynching obvscum is the best choice regardless

it's scummy to push

NOT

thinking that as scummy despite it being explained without explaining why that thought process is scummy

Reality, instead of defending yourself from what I'm saying, why don't you answer the questions I asked you earlier - your thoughts on Random, and why you're voting me?

my thoughts on random is that he's in the poe list

I'm voting you because you're scum
you're scum because your thought processes and thought trajectories aren't town.

that entire post was scummy

I indicated as such very shortly after seeing it

it would give the whole thing away if I told you whether the player was town or scum

so AA9 starts pushing the nicowagon after she obvtowns

well yeah it's good for scum if it goes through

the problem is it's DOA

it's never going through

so there's no point in scum pushing it

the general principle sure, but nico as a target is nonsensical

So why the 180 on Angel being scummy? And I think random and Sho are town. Random shouldn’t be in your POE. I’m gut reading them both as town. Of course, Sho should realize by now that the worst is obvtown.

[Nancy Drew 39]

it would give the whole thing away if I told you whether the player was town or scum

What will be given away if you identify the player’s -WHICH player btw - alignment?

[Reality Check]

1349 was referring to nico being obvtown

[Nancy Drew 39]

1349 was referring to nico being obvtown

I know. I’m a helluva a lot smarter than you give me credit for.

[Nancy Drew 39]

same here tbh my theory about it being maybe non user actions was mostly around the fact it was soundtrack order. this is prolly a scum dreaming god or JOAT or maybe factional 1 shots

look at undertale mafia

the third party had actions with effects similarish to this (Maxous' role for reference)

You think Jareth is a third party? Who do you think is third party and third party isn’t pro-town. There is obviously no SK in this game.

[Reality Check]

I'm not arguing for AA9 being town

I'm arguing that your reason for the nicopush being scummy isn't reasonable

[Reality Check]

same here tbh my theory about it being maybe non user actions was mostly around the fact it was soundtrack order. this is prolly a scum dreaming god or JOAT or maybe factional 1 shots

look at undertale mafia

the third party had actions with effects similarish to this (Maxous' role for reference)

You think Jareth is a third party? Who do you think is third party and third party isn’t pro-town. There is obviously no SK in this game.

I was responding to a post about the role, not the alignment. The entire point of that was to be a point of reference

[Nancy Drew 39]

same here tbh my theory about it being maybe non user actions was mostly around the fact it was soundtrack order. this is prolly a scum dreaming god or JOAT or maybe factional 1 shots

look at undertale mafia

the third party had actions with effects similarish to this (Maxous' role for reference)

You think Jareth is a third party? Who do you think is third party and third party isn’t pro-town. There is obviously no SK in this game.

I think you may be tinfoiling. Why would a 3P get day actions when no other player does? That would be bastard and this game isn’t. I think you’re conflating wincons with with player actions. I think we can safely say now that everytime Jareth sings, a new hood is born. This is entirely useless to scum and unlike what I think you’re referencing in that other game, I fail to see how hoods benefit a 3P.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm not arguing for AA9 being town

I'm arguing that your reason for the nicopush being scummy isn't reasonable

Eventhough it blatantly obviously is. I already explained why but for some inexplicable reason, you seem to be allergic/obtuse to obvious logic in this case.

Once again: Nico hardcop claimed. There is a higher than likely chance that there’s a doc who will protect her from the NK. If a town doc/protective targets Nico - extremely likely IMO, then scum can’t kill that slot but lynches OTOH are doc-proof, so that’s clearly why they’re pushing Nico lynch.

*My heads hurts*

[Nancy Drew 39]

IM SO LOSTTT

AT LEAST IM CONF TOWN

How are you “CONF TOWN”? Did Nico investigate you n0 or am I missing something?

[Nancy Drew 39]

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i think i might be coming around to tring soshin
random is fine, rest didn't really change

if aa9 is scum so is por
perhaps,

I like your reads. I think there are numerous posts that link Creature/Angel/Rennais together. I’m waiting on GIF to help correctly sort out that slot.

[Nancy Drew 39]

well yeah it's good for scum if it goes through

the problem is it's DOA

it's never going through

so there's no point in scum pushing it

They don’t need the lynch to actually go through,

all they really need is enough votes to prevent a Creature lynch from happening

. What part of we need 8 to lynch are you not getting?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I am in a PT with GiF and he's not talking in there either.

Oh that PT is unauthorized for me.

Also what is this creature/arc w/w

If that w means wolf, AA9 is defo town here.

If that w means wolf, AA9 is defo town here.

Why?

for the record I'm also in a PT with Creature as a result of the masquerade thing and I'm begging him not to be scum and getting nothing

Guys I'm shook

Not been feeling inspired enough to play this game lately

Also, I'm not one to use PTs tbh

Hmm . . . Is anyone STILL seriously doubting Creature is scum? GIF town defending Angel for no reason whatsoever is NAGL IMO.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Spoiler:

[quote=RadiantCowbells post_id=10246675 time=1528891331 user_id=20971]Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 2.48:

Creature (4): TPFKAP, The Worst, WhemeStar, Nancy Drew 39
randomidget (2): NicoRobin, Shoshin
Shoshin (2): Reality Check, Scioness Sajj
TPFKAP (1): randomidget
NicoRobin (1): ArcAngel9
The Worst (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):
Scioness Sajj (0):
Vartsun (0):
Reality Check (0):
Princess of Renais (0):
WhemeStar (0):
ArcAngel9 (0):
Joral (0):

Not voting: Vartsun, Princess of Renais, Creature, Joral

With 14 alive it's 8 to lynch.

Spoiler:

The day will end at (expired on 2018-06-25 12:00:00).

Replacing Princess of Renais, Joral, Vartsun and TPFKAP.

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