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In post 1268, LolWagons wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Worst

I don’t think Mastina is scum with TW based on the first half or so of her ISO and I’m becoming increasingly wary of this slot. I find myself thinking that regardless of the Nancy flip that both TWs hops on and off the NSG/Nancy wagon have been bad. I can’t believe I went from where I was at thirty posts ago to here but I think this is the right move.

In post 1349, Pink Ball wrote:So in duck's readlist he had Nancy and LolWagons as scum and mastina as null; Nibbui asked him what's up with mastina and he replied that she towntelled because she read him backwards, but that she could go either way. Now that Nancy towntelled, the duck votes mastina.

Nibbui, not lynching the duck for being charismatic... I feel you, I really do. But duck's flip is better; I'll even say that, if I'm wrong about the worst, from my PoV the game would be solved in D2.

In post 1351, Nibbui wrote:If TW is scum I think mastina has positive equity of being scum by the fact that they voted her but didn't really push her and sounded like just waiting for NSG's wagon to come close to a lynch to hammer

if Sheep is scum I think mastina isn't a out of possibility partner

Even if, anyone still scum reads Mephistophanes, that points to Mastina haveing positive equity of being scum imo

and I've like I said, a weird impression on their readlist because it's the same from page 1 or 2 what somewhat makes it sounds like they are creating a narrative instead of looking deeper in players actions

I think what she said about podoboq and duck is valid, but my problem is that she is clearing people for stuff that sounds a bit surreal for me + was scum reading TW since the start when I think he sounded fine in the first pages.

In post 1347, Nibbui wrote:Hmmm, I've something to say here but read all of it, carefully, before anyone jumping to any conclusions.

Nancy in Heroes PT:

I am not usually obvtown read from the getgo, despite what Ank said. They’re are definite differences between my town and scum games but only someone who knows my play, really really well, would ever pick up on them.

I will never be townread based on AtE ever again, since for me, that’s totally NAI.

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I think what Acid said to you back then was bad, but look, here you need to recognize that you used that to manipulate Toranaga in feeling bad for suspecting you when you were actually a wolf:

In post 533, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 530, Toranaga wrote:

In post 529, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 515, Toranaga wrote:I don't wanna be the one pushing nancy cause reasons but she pings me as scum since very early and quite a lot.

Based on? You also thought that Acid had valid reasons to wolfread me in the light game. I wasn’t scum there and I’m not here either.

I’m sure you wish I was though. Sorry to disapoint.

I didn't play that game and all I said was that acid wasn't

nasty

or

treated you viciously

. I could care less what his read looked like, but I'm defending his right to say everything he said about you without being misrepresented as a nasty vicious player. everyone who read his posts agree with me.

anyway let's not do this? I'm trying to avoid it. if you're town I'll figure out soon enough and I have absolutely 0 wanting of you being a wolf or whatever.

I mean that you probably wish I wasn’t in this game, amirite?

Like here, you think that it's something personal when really, it's not. He was simply scum reading you and everytime someone suspected you, you always thought that it wasn't a *valid reason* and you say this in the Mafia PT:

I’m not going down guys and don’t bus me, please. There is no logical reason to suspect me at this point.

So just freaking chill. I got this.

To make justice though, you didn't use AtE when you replaced in Witches Halloween in a scum slot. You were pretty chill there indeed.

Also, your AtE here isn't what I would expect from scum!you, it really seems like frustated town!you.

I'm only posting this to make you understand where The worst is coming from regardless of his aligment, it's really not personal Nancy. It's just that in Heroes your scum game used

a lot

of AtE, and that is one of your unique scum games in MS. If I look on for example on your scum game on MTG or in Witches, I can see why you think that this behavior is a town tell for you, but considering what happened in Heroes, people are still going to somewhat suspect you.

I recommend that when you eventually roll scum again, you actually don't use as much AtE as you used on Heroes because that will make your argument sounds convicing. I particularly think the perfect example of what you want to do in regards to that is be more or less like Sakura Hana.

She somewhat uses AtE as scum but it's very subdued, not-aggressive and weak. Also, although she only uses strong AtE as town, she doesn't always use it as a "trust tell" (what is not allowed in the site) except when she is very frustated with the game (as you're now and I understand you, I already got very frustated on Mafia as well).

But

again,

I don't think you use this kind of AtE, attacking a person not a idea, as scum.

I think this is frustated town!Nancy

for now and I'll let you breath and give your thoughts in the thread so that we can read you better, and I was trying to do that anyway since the start.

Then yeah, for now I'm town reading Nancy's slot although I'll be very, very let down if you're ever scum here (but I don't think you are!).

In post 1351, Nibbui wrote:If TW is scum I think mastina has positive equity of being scum by the fact that they voted her but didn't really push her and sounded like just waiting for NSG's wagon to come close to a lynch to hammer

if Sheep is scum I think mastina isn't a out of possibility partner

Even if, anyone still scum reads Mephistophanes, that points to Mastina haveing positive equity of being scum imo

and

I've like I said, a weird impression on their readlist because it's the same from page 1 or 2 what somewhat makes it sounds like they are creating a narrative instead of looking deeper in players actions

I think what she said about podoboq and duck is valid, but my problem is that she is clearing people for stuff that sounds a bit surreal for me + was scum reading TW since the start when I think he sounded fine in the first pages.

In post 1357, Pink Ball wrote:Want a superficial argument too? How resisted the worst's wagon has been compared to Nancy's indicates that his/her partner doesn't want to bus 'cause there are good alternatives to mislynch (aka mastina and Nancy, now LolWagons).

In post 1352, Pink Ball wrote:By the way Nancy, if you feel hurt everytime people scumread you when you're, that's borderline a trust tell. If you're scum here, bravo, now you can't get angry if someone doesn't believe your emotions; if you're town, you're making your way to that trust tell. I believe you, not because I should, but because I already thought that NSG was town (especially after some reactions of her replacement) and because you seemed genuine when defending yourself at first (back then, you didn't have to say that you were hurt etc, you just seemed pissed off because you didn't have the chance to play and you were already being wagoned. I know that feeling). What I mean is, explicitly saying that you're hurt for being scumread when you're town is a pattern you should try to avoid. Being emotional is fine, but you have to know is a double-edged sword.

That being said, I hope you feel better. Let's start this year with a smile.

In post 1367, Nibbui wrote:there is not many Mastina votes and I don't believe that you're afraid to hammer sheep

In post 1369, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im v reading nancy and

im genuinely pissed that i am

In post 1367, Nibbui wrote:there is not many Mastina votes and I don't believe that you're afraid to hammer sheep