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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:10 pm
by Ame
In post 1347, clidd wrote: In post 1343, Ame wrote:Honestly, I can't say I really even scumread Hectic. He's been completely null all game. He's really just the PoE option if Clidd doesn't flip scum.
Clidd actually has been scummy and illogical. Reading his town games, I can actually follow his reasoning and agree with it. I haven't felt that once this game.
Im not scum, just different in this game. I believe that the way you answered me there was
scum indicative
, that's why I hammered you. It was very selfish of me, but I believe it was the right decision(if you're
scum
pretending now). If you're town......
If so, I'm disappointed because you clearly misunderstood me. And your selfish act may have seriously hurt the game.
I wasn't in any fashion calling you arrogant. Your argument was that an experienced player wouldn't oscillate in their reads. I was saying that only an arrogant player wouldn't.
I was also saying that experience is not relevant to how often a person changes their reads. Of course, it's relevant to other things.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:14 pm
by clidd
I did poorly on this game, overall. But still town, unfortunately. At least I'll be happy if I'm right about Aaron, even if I lose the game.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:16 pm
by clidd
In post 1350, Ame wrote: In post 1347, clidd wrote: In post 1343, Ame wrote:Honestly, I can't say I really even scumread Hectic. He's been completely null all game. He's really just the PoE option if Clidd doesn't flip scum.
Clidd actually has been scummy and illogical. Reading his town games, I can actually follow his reasoning and agree with it. I haven't felt that once this game.
Im not scum, just different in this game. I believe that the way you answered me there was
scum indicative
, that's why I hammered you. It was very selfish of me, but I believe it was the right decision(if you're
scum
pretending now). If you're town......
If so, I'm disappointed because you clearly misunderstood me. And your selfish act may have seriously hurt the game.
I wasn't in any fashion calling you arrogant. Your argument was that an experienced player wouldn't oscillate in their reads. I was saying that only an arrogant player wouldn't.
I was also saying that experience is not relevant to how often a person changes their reads. Of course, it's relevant to other things.
You should have ignored me, I don't withdraw from the argument when someone disagrees with me.. Strong chemical reactions made me hammer you.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:18 pm
by dsjstr
I just realized that Flippy is getting killed tonight.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:19 pm
by clidd
Maybe not, he is not that active to influence the game. It would be smarter to kill the player closest to the overall TR.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:20 pm
by clidd
So you, me, Karnage and Flippy will be alive, They will kill between Hectic/Aaron.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:23 pm
by clidd
Considering Hectic is scum, Aaron dies. If Aaron scum, Hectic dies.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:28 pm
by clidd
Well, this was simply the second worst game I've played since I joined the site.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:37 pm
by Ame
Interesting, Less Pressure has some juicy scum meta on both Hectic and Wimpy. Hectic's play is a bit different I'd say, though the pace of that game was also different. Wimpy's is consistent with this game.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:38 pm
by dsjstr
You don't think I am scum based on how I played in that game?
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:39 pm
by dsjstr
Actually never mind don't answer that lol
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:39 pm
by dsjstr
Unless it leads me to being town read of course
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:40 pm
by Ame
I'd say you're my strongest town read. I also read your play in the game you spoke of where Clidd demolished the scum team it was very different.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:48 pm
by dsjstr
The good thing is that Hectic and Aaron were both in that game so at least two of us will stay alive.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:49 pm
by clidd
To be honest, looking at it from another angle, you could have avoided this lynch if you hadn't engaged with me being L-1. I believe that your constant swing towards the player you would like to lynch was, in fact, significantly
scummy
.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:50 pm
by clidd
I'm wrong about not waiting, but not entirely to justify a bad lynch.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:50 pm
by Ame
Ok Clidd I'll keep it in mind that I shouldn't engage with you.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:51 pm
by clidd
You should have remained neutral in that aspect, so part of the fault is yours too. You lacked firmness when Hectic voted on you too.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:51 pm
by clidd
Well, I'm being totally honest. I assume my mistake, but I also see that you made a mistake.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:51 pm
by dsjstr
Now I have no one to talk with tonight
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:51 pm
by clidd
If you didn't, why 3 players were voting on you ?
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:52 pm
by Ame
In post 1325, AaronFrost wrote:Alright sorry this took so long for me to get to. Here's what I pickup up on upon a reread.
- insomnia pressured myself and Ame early on. I think in a setup with no daychat, it's possible that scum would fake pressure on their partner if they disapproved of their posting. This is something that should be discussed imo.
- He later turned the reads on both of us into townreads. Read into this how you will, but I'm trying to figure scum!somni's motivation for turning his reads around like that. I think he was trying to pocket me, but could his turn
Huh? wut? This...
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:52 pm
by clidd
No, it was not the second worst game. Perhaps the second worst individual performance, but this ending is definitely not something I should be ashamed of.
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:54 pm
by Ame
In post 1371, Ame wrote: In post 1325, AaronFrost wrote:Alright sorry this took so long for me to get to. Here's what I pickup up on upon a reread.
- insomnia pressured myself and Ame early on. I think in a setup with no daychat, it's possible that scum would fake pressure on their partner if they disapproved of their posting. This is something that should be discussed imo.
- He later turned the reads on both of us into townreads. Read into this how you will, but I'm trying to figure scum!somni's motivation for turning his reads around like that. I think he was trying to pocket me, but could his turn
Huh? wut? This...
oh god this is I just this is so scummy
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:56 pm
by clidd
After a year of me talking about Aaron, you magically come up with that.