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In post 1345, clidd wrote:Hey Dave, what you think of Wake's statement about you, Morning and Hectic after the recent NK ? or has nothing changed ?

Since the gamma portion of my solve doesn't pan out I guess I'll give the rest.

I wasn't killed, which means Wake is town. Scum killing protective is high priority unless that kill will result in a guilty. Scum believed the watcher would get a guilty. Wake wasn't killed, which means scum thought I would protect him. Kill priority would be investigative over protective, unless protected. I assert that this implies I have to be town protective, though I will be generous and try not to sling insults if people don't get it.

I'm not as positive about Hectic as I was d1, would need to re-read.
I really need to know what MT's role is. Another TPR means the game is very stacked. Scum would need to have roles to counter.

if waka, tweet and dave are all town. Then with holdems flip i cant see town hvign any more power.

It might not be a bad idea to do mass claim. As all the town are most likely power roles are either outed or dead.

In post 1350, davesaz wrote:

In post 1345, clidd wrote:Hey Dave, what you think of Wake's statement about you, Morning and Hectic after the recent NK ? or has nothing changed ?

Since the gamma portion of my solve doesn't pan out I guess I'll give the rest.

I wasn't killed, which means Wake is town. Scum killing protective is high priority unless that kill will result in a guilty. Scum believed the watcher would get a guilty. Wake wasn't killed, which means scum thought I would protect him. Kill priority would be investigative over protective, unless protected. I assert that this implies I have to be town protective, though I will be generous and try not to sling insults if people don't get it.

I'm not as positive about Hectic as I was d1, would need to re-read.
I really need to know what MT's role is. Another TPR means the game is very stacked. Scum would need to have roles to counter.

Wait.

Hold on.

Just because you weren't killed doesn't mean I'm Town. You could very well be Scum. HoldenGolden was killed Night 2 so unless there's a Vig (which I doubt) then Scum targeted Holden, not you. You could very well be one of the two remaining Scum. I don't know your alignment.

You may not even be a protective, which is why I was pushing for either of you two to be sorted Day 2.

Nothing you have done (or anything that even HAS beeen done) clears you or makes you confirmed either way.

I think a mass-claim is in order.

I believe you're definitely right Wake

In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote: I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

Can confirm Hectic is, in fact, the coolest

In post 1350, davesaz wrote: Since the gamma portion of my solve doesn't pan out I guess I'll give the rest.

I wasn't killed, which means Wake is town. Scum killing protective is high priority unless that kill will result in a guilty. Scum believed the watcher would get a guilty. Wake wasn't killed, which means scum thought I would protect him. Kill priority would be investigative over protective, unless protected. I assert that this implies I have to be town protective, though I will be generous and try not to sling insults if people don't get it.

I'm not as positive about Hectic as I was d1, would need to re-read.
I really need to know what MT's role is. Another TPR means the game is very stacked. Scum would need to have roles to counter.

I agree with the conjecture that Scum!Wake would be interested in slaughtering your slot overnight after managing to reveal you. A gambit-wifom would not seem very beneficial in this context, especially for being something executed on D2, right after mafia lost one of their partners.

Regarding Hectic, I think he's a relatively easy slot to read when he's town due to the interactions he has throughout the game, at least from my point of view. The way in which Chemist's slot forced some interactions with him on D1 seemed to me suggestively a subtle attempt of association between both slots, because at the moment when the lynch occurred, these interactions would be analyzed later and would probably be harmful to the scum alignment if they characterized SvS, especially due to the pressure of the numerical handicap that would increase. In that sense, for now, I am inclined to consider his slot town unless some mechanical peculiarity says otherwise.

In post 1343, davesaz wrote:Gamma any comments about the probability you were the target of an investigation?

I’d call it doubtful

In post 1350, davesaz wrote:I wasn't killed, which means Wake is town. Scum killing protective is high priority unless that kill will result in a guilty. Scum believed the watcher would get a guilty. Wake wasn't killed, which means scum thought I would protect him. Kill priority would be investigative over protective, unless protected. I assert that this implies I have to be town protective, though I will be generous and try not to sling insults if people don't get it.

You would insult me if i had the idea that this isnt the case? You arent confirmed just because you and wake survived..? Unless im missing what you're saying

In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote:Thank you wake you are very kind!

I would cop the hardest to read player in the pool of players who hasn't contributed too much yet. Either because they're good at scum or lack an easily accessible meta. Lol I want to say bob just because I haven't been able to read him in the past. but I think i'd probably actually go for Gamma or tictac since I think there's hope I can figure out bob this time around

Vig someone? i don't want to vig someone d1 unless i had a really good reason, a better reason than "can't read" or "doesnt post much". So i'd save it for later, running the risk I lose it but I think that'd be better than accidentally shooting a townie that hasn't done anything wrong

I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

Wait who is this in response to?

In post 404, Hectic wrote:

Morning Tweet

: [Waka Waka] has gifted you [Cop, Vig, and Neighbouriser] shots. Very generous of him, and you give him a nod of approval as thanks. How do you use your newly found powers?

In post 1358, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote:
I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

Wait who is this in response to?

that's my neighbourizer crumb

That post was a response to Hectic asking me what id do with a cop, vig, n neighbourizer shot

In post 1339, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 1337, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Wake
I don’t think Watcher + Doctor + Role Cop passes as balanced and out of the remaining roles I’m more inclined to doubt the second investigative role.

Is it unheard of for there to be multiple investigatives? By their play alone I am inclined to vote dave. I don't think this is a strong argument

Why does scum!Wake out both me and dave rather than just kill us? it's a lot of unnecessary, extra WIFOM risk.

It outweighs the double investigative thing for me.

Btw regarding this I think Wake suspected a protective and wanted to get it lynched if possible. And like think about how powerful that trio of roles is if they can confirm each other. That’s not balanced at all in my eyes. So I think my point actually outweighs yours.

In post 1360, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 1358, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote:
I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

Wait who is this in response to?

that's my neighbourizer crumb

That post was a response to Hectic asking me what id do with a cop, vig, n neighbourizer shot

I figured that but I myself have used that question as a general one to the entire playerlist to break the ice twice so it was interesting to me

Btw is there a particular reason you never claimed D2 MT?

In post 1357, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 1350, davesaz wrote:I wasn't killed, which means Wake is town. Scum killing protective is high priority unless that kill will result in a guilty. Scum believed the watcher would get a guilty. Wake wasn't killed, which means scum thought I would protect him. Kill priority would be investigative over protective, unless protected. I assert that this implies I have to be town protective, though I will be generous and try not to sling insults if people don't get it.

You would insult me if i had the idea that this isnt the case? You arent confirmed just because you and wake survived..? Unless im missing what you're saying

Hum, I think I visually ignored his line:

Evidently, he is not confirmed, lol.

Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1360, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 1358, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote:
I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

Wait who is this in response to?

that's my neighbourizer crumb

That post was a response to Hectic asking me what id do with a cop, vig, n neighbourizer shot

I figured that but I myself have used that question as a general one to the entire playerlist to break the ice twice so it was interesting to me

i didnt see your following post somehow >-<

i need to take a break

Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw is there a particular reason you never claimed D2 MT?

There is indeed! I generally felt like enough people in the thread had pieced it together (Hectic knew obviously, Holden did, profii i think alluded to it?) so there was no real good reason to out it officially. If scum hadnt already figured it out, then it should stay that way. Telling Wake wasn't really worth it because im not worth watching (except as a WIFOM ig)

In post 1354, Morning Tweet wrote:I believe you're definitely right Wake

In post 414, Morning Tweet wrote: I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

Can confirm Hectic is, in fact, the coolest

So you're claiming Neighbor, or Neighborizer?

In post 1361, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1339, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 1337, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Wake
I don’t think Watcher + Doctor + Role Cop passes as balanced and out of the remaining roles I’m more inclined to doubt the second investigative role.

Is it unheard of for there to be multiple investigatives? By their play alone I am inclined to vote dave. I don't think this is a strong argument

Why does scum!Wake out both me and dave rather than just kill us? it's a lot of unnecessary, extra WIFOM risk.

It outweighs the double investigative thing for me.

Btw regarding this I think Wake suspected a protective and wanted to get it lynched if possible. And like think about how powerful that trio of roles is if they can confirm each other. That’s not balanced at all in my eyes. So I think my point actually outweighs yours.

So, when you were pulling this out of your ass, how badly did it hurt?

I recall someone saying from a completed game the max town pr in a mini setup is 4. If anyone here can correct me on that if that is correct or is it 5?

In post 1218, profii wrote:

In post 1141, profii wrote:

In post 1120, Adorable wrote:I think profii is town. On #526 he broke the tie on the Chemist/Aloratom wagon and if profii was scum I think he would have voted Aloratom instead of voting Chemist.

What difference does that make?

Adorable, just in case you missed this, can you answer please?

This is from day 2 and I never got a chance to respond to this. I don't know what you are asking here. So you're thinking even if a player breaks the tie on a wagon and votes scum, that doesn't make the player a town read and this is NAI?

In post 1368, Adorable wrote:I recall someone saying from a completed game the max town pr in a mini setup is 4. If anyone here can correct me on that if that is correct or is it 5?

Yes, 4 TPRs and 6 VTs.

In post 1370, clidd wrote:

In post 1368, Adorable wrote:I recall someone saying from a completed game the max town pr in a mini setup is 4. If anyone here can correct me on that if that is correct or is it 5?

Yes, 4 TPRs and 6 VTs.

This is a 13-player fame, though. Not 10.

*game.

In post 1371, Wake1 wrote: This is a 13-player fame, though. Not 10.

I didn't mention the scum alignment, but it would basically be the addition of 3.

Well, changing the subject: would a mass-claim be correct in the current game state ?