Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:42 am
Sorry, didn't finish reading before commenting :3In post 1348, Pink Ball wrote:Mena already told me, thanks SS
There is NO INCENTIVE for the turkey to kill scum because that LITERALLY is playing against his winconIn post 1333, Something_Smart wrote:This sounds like empty rhetoric to me.In post 1322, Menalque wrote:No, then we’re weaker because we’re getting further away from outnumbering the scum and he gets to coast another day because people want to try and flip their scumreads.
You're talking about him surviving another day as if it's automatically a bad thing. Is it? If we compare lynching him tomorrow to lynching him today, the only difference is that an extra player dies overnight. If that player is > rand scum, then it's good; otherwise, it's bad.
Then, if he killed scum, we can leave him alive one more day to put us back on odds without worrying about losing majority. If he killed town, we might have to lynch him-- and this gives him a powerful incentive to play along and try to hit his strongest scumread.
If you assume that his reads are better than random, there is at the very least a reasonable argument for leaving him alive.
You should add yours!In post 1353, Pink Ball wrote:That's a good vote actually
I mean the same thing I thought would happen when I claimed SK? Lol. Just because I have a wincondition that says everyone must die doesn’t mean I can’t townside with it. I’m not throwing my wincondition out the window in am against the rules sort of way like I would if I was scum. There’s a lot of gray area with 3PIn post 1349, Menalque wrote:But you’re... the SK? You literally have the wincon of killing every single town player in the game and given that you’re outed helping scum is not the way to do that because it just means we get to killing you fasterIn post 1335, gobbledygook wrote:I townside whenever I am not scum but not town, for the record. I have two games to prove that.
Like let’s say we lynch scum today, vig one tonight and you kill the other one
What do you think happens tomorrow?
I mean that’s exactly the thing that happened in Mainstream Mafia II and also I’m Korina’s CK9++ where I caught all three scum and outted that info to the town, so... yeah....In post 1354, Menalque wrote:Like in the world where we mislynch every day and the turkey saves us by shooting 3 scum in a row — what does he think happens, we go “yeah, thanks turkey, we just won’t lynch you so that you can win bc you were so helpful to town” lmao
Why did you feel the need to make this post Lilith?In post 980, lilith2013 wrote:disclaimer, i’m still not really caught up but i’m still working so i can’t make catchup posts
That’s not true. I can’t control the outcome of flips or vigs. In your scenario where we successfully kill every scum by day 2, I cannot divine the Lynch’s flip, or the vigilante’s flip, so me hard townsiding in that example is still perfectly within my win con. You’re ignoring the present misinformation well have, especially me, to justify saying future actions will be anti wincondition when that reality can only be shown AFTER the actions take place.In post 1359, Menalque wrote:Right, but my point is that you claiming SK can be within wincon, but actually hard townsiding CANNOT be. That very, very literally conflicts with your wincon or “be the last bird standing
I townsided in both MMII and Korina’s C9++ so I do not understand this post. If you mean in the literal sense, obviously. But I can tip the scales to the town, which is what I’ve always done as 3P.In post 1358, Pink Ball wrote:You literally can't townside. Survivor can townside. SK can't win with town
Yes, I used the word literally correctlyIn post 1362, gobbledygook wrote:I townsided in both MMII and Korina’s C9++ so I do not understand this post. If you mean in the literal sense, obviously. But I can tip the scales to the town, which is what I’ve always done as 3P.In post 1358, Pink Ball wrote:You literally can't townside. Survivor can townside. SK can't win with town
Saying "there is no incentive to kill three scum" is not the same as saying "there is no incentive to kill one scum."In post 1354, Menalque wrote:There is NO INCENTIVE for the turkey to kill scum because that LITERALLY is playing against his wincon
Like in the world where we mislynch every day and the turkey saves us by shooting 3 scum in a row — what does he think happens, we go “yeah, thanks turkey, we just won’t lynch you so that you can win bc you were so helpful to town” lmao
Nothing.In post 1369, skitter30 wrote:blake what changed on me ?