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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:02 pm
by L4pe
In post 1347, SirCakez wrote:
L4pe wrote:
In post 1337, SirCakez wrote:prolly scum somewhere in that weird pool of people who aren't lurking but also aren't particularly active
people like (cobra, reagan bush, beeboy, Maria, MWNN)
i agree and have in fact predicted that you would make this exact post 12 hours ago

hence why my vote has never left the prime suspect
???
humor. ive been parked on beeboy for literal ages

come on

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:03 pm
by SirCakez
You want me to vote him?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:03 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1351, SirCakez wrote:You want me to vote him?
Do you scumread him?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:04 pm
by Fermis Flames
In post 1337, SirCakez wrote:prolly scum somewhere in that weird pool of people who aren't lurking but also aren't particularly active
people like (cobra, reagan bush, beeboy, Maria, MWNN)
beeboy is my back pocket scum read.

and reagan is trying to be a dark horse in the running.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:04 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1347, SirCakez wrote:Can you elaborate on those two cuz I am not seeing it?
Maria’s handling of my drama fit definitely read like town her. It showed that she is handling me in that ginger way she does as town.
Cobra I like some of the things he’s been poking at so far. Not as strong as the Maria read but still decent

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:04 pm
by SirCakez
Not really
He's just in my null pool of suspects

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:04 pm
by L4pe
In post 1351, SirCakez wrote:You want me to vote him?
no

im just saying i didnt like him from the start and someone reinforcing that is kind of cool

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:05 pm
by Guillotina
In post 1264, Cabd wrote:
In post 1261, Fermis Flames wrote:There is literally no reason to put someone at l-1 8 hours into day one.
Yes there is.
What reason is that? What did I miss Cabd?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:05 pm
by midwaybear
Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:07 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1358, midwaybear wrote:Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum
Yeah but the wagon is stuck on me
Dare I say
Spoiler:
scum like this gamestate

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:08 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1285, borkjerfkin wrote:[10] SirCakez (Cabd, midwaybear, Fermis Flames, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Bell, Battle Mage, unwnd, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald)
MWNN, Maria, BM, maybe unwnd??? (I have no read on him atm but I also misread him so badly last time we played together that I let myself be the D1 elim to save him AND HE WAS SCUM)

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:09 pm
by midwaybear
MWNN reasons for scumreading you make no sense to me.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:10 pm
by Cobra Kai
You’re positing four scum within five votes on a LHF wagon day one?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:10 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1358, midwaybear wrote:Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum
Also wait this is so messed up
You keep asking about the nonexistent case on me and how no one really SRs me but you're still voting me
What gives?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:10 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1362, Cobra Kai wrote:You’re positing four scum within five votes on a LHF wagon day one?
No I don't think they are all scum
But I'd wager two at least

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:11 pm
by REAGAN BUSH 84
i re-iso'd cakez and while i do not feel as good about him being town i'm not seeing obvscum still

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:11 pm
by Bell
In post 1358, midwaybear wrote:Seems like no one shares Cabd's conviction that Cakez is scum

I kinda do.
Not at the same strength but there’s an inkling

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:11 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 1324, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1310, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1292, Gamma Emerald wrote:but part of my role is probably quite good for leashing a scummy player
There will be no leashing of scum this game.
That’s not what I said. I said leashing a SCUMMY player. Not scum.
I know what you said.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:12 pm
by Bell
Who the hell is obv scum.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:12 pm
by Fermis Flames
In post 1360, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1285, borkjerfkin wrote:[10] SirCakez (Cabd, midwaybear, Fermis Flames, ManWithNoName, MariaR, Bell, Battle Mage, unwnd, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald)
MWNN, Maria, BM, maybe unwnd??? (I have no read on him atm but I also misread him so badly last time we played together that I let myself be the D1 elim to save him AND HE WAS SCUM)
How do you feel about Dunnstral?

I can see maybe MWNN actually.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1360, SirCakez wrote:I let myself be the D1 elim to save him AND HE WAS SCUM
Oof yeah doing this isn’t great
You always know your alignment. You can’t be certain of someone else’s bar mechanics.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:13 pm
by midwaybear
Cabd said earlier that he wasn't going to burn his tell on you because others seemed to be seeing what he was seeing. It doesn't look like anyone here really is seeing what he is seeing.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:13 pm
by Fermis Flames
In post 1331, SirCakez wrote:ok i'll bite. will regret this.
In post 1140, Fermis Flames wrote:
In post 1023, SirCakez wrote:I feel you Fire
I think you feel less natural and comfortable than you did last game. Your early thing with Battle Mage? felt like you forcing a scum read.

Point a is the more concerning thing for me because I remember when syr and ffery both mentioned their thoughts on you my thought was that you felt comfortable and I really liked that. There were some niggles and late game you really only became a lynch target because SOMEBODY took scum out of the poe and you were my least townread of everyone who was left.

Point b is I don't know what to do with that. I'm not good at reading the early game because I can't really tell the difference between town trying to get things started and scum trying to look that way, so that pinged but I don't know what to do with it.

I'm personally a bit pinged by not feeling that sense of you feeling comfortable here, but it's not full-fledged scum read though.

What are your strongest reads?
honestly I don't have many strong reads here because I've been more focused on what people think of me then reading other people. so I haven't really developed anything strong. because when I did attempt scumhunting it just got crappy fast with BM and then Noraa
I still think BM is scummy. Noraa is still scummy and I'm not sure why she's defending me.
Cabd's tunnel on me is probably town as much I hate it but I'm just so fed up with him and I don't want to engage him more because I like him and don't want to get in a fight. but also I wish he would not be like this.
you guys are prolly town too. you all feel like you did in Smoke.
Bell feels better than he did in Smoke. less bullshit.
Brian Skies has also been better since he dropped those TRs early game. I like his engagement.
idk I'd have to reread others. just not really feeling motivated if I'm going to die here.
I'm sorry that the game has been unfun for you so far! It's not fun to be wagoned straight off the gate no matter your alignment, but especially if you're town. I remember how frustrated you got in smoke too when "confirmed town" was scumreading you without explanations or a care that you could be a miselim, and I kinda feel like that's affecting my ability to read you or feel confident in it rather. Sorry I know that's no help, and if you are town here and get miselimed again, I'll probably not be able to scum read you in the next game we play. That's no help either I know.

Your attack on BM for the reasons you did felt a little premature at the time. I don't disagree with anything else though.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:13 pm
by midwaybear
In post 1366, Bell wrote:I kinda do.
Not at the same strength but there’s an inkling
Want to tell me why?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1362, Cobra Kai wrote:You’re positing four scum within five votes on a LHF wagon day one?
I mean it DOES check out he’s seeing that given it happened in another game he’d played but at a different scale (13 player game with 3 scum)