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In post 1347, zMuffinMan wrote:to be perfectly honest, while i havent read the other thread, i have used the search function for zmuff* and muff* mentions

you know me too well

In post 1338, Imperium wrote:

In post 1333, zMuffinMan wrote:well who would you want to get rid of after sending pooky and pisskop to the savages? still shellyc?

that's my current thought but it's now between Shelly and Almost with some Titus/Hench posts to firm up my reads there.

In post 1349, Imperium wrote:

In post 2313, Firebringer wrote:i swear to god if noraa is my cakez 2.0; gonna be super mad

Don't worry brother we're gonna come out on top this time I promise.

In post 2321, Flavor Leaf wrote:Imperium just stated they're gonna win "this time" brother, but they won the last time.

In post 1355, zMuffinMan wrote:i thought maybe just getting rid of pisskop and sending over pooky and almost50 pretty much solves the same issue but im less iffy on pisskop being a scum flip even if it is kind of low info and people think it's a crapshoot

functionally achieves the same thing if we manage to get rid of all the scum in this thread but i guess i'm just less certain about who to go for in the remnants after a pooky/pisskop eviction

In post 948, Imperium wrote:Shelly -

Can you talk to me a bit more about how your Bell read has progressed during the day? Also feel a bit weird how you have scum dead to rights in this thread but also want to turnstile to another thread - might be projecting my own play onto yours but I can't help but feel that if I had confident scum in this thread then I want to give them an easy way away from me by transferring out of town, if that makes sense.

In post 228, shellyc wrote:this seems like scum!bell

lack of effort, defeatist

So your first characterization of scum!Bell is that he doesn't put in the effort and he's immediately defeatist. Lack of effort doesn't seem to apply. He's currently outpacing you in posting now, and it's fair to say that he's defeatist when he hasn't given up on the push on you yet. His posting isn't dense, but I didn't expect it to be based on my experience with him so far, and he is pretty one-track minded but it's too early for me to be crazy worried about that yet.

In post 236, shellyc wrote:i feel like scum!bell is more likely to be sarcastic here

Bell greatly prefers town from my knowledge, wants to be townread as town, there's none of that here

I understand your point here for sure - it's part of the reason that I'm townreading Bell here. His town preference leads to a bit of swagger when he rolls town - confidence that he is town and should be identified as such. If you control + F "town" in his ISO in Smoke-Filled Antechamber, for example, you'll see him ask to be "town block buddies with ffery" (which he later backed down from by saying that "town block buddies" means "friendlier than usual"), and you'll see him tell one person their read is wrong. Here, if you go through the same exercise, he talks a couple of times how he's contributing by being blatantly town, posts that he's town before he goes to bed, talks about how happy he is that he's town and describes the smile on his face when he's town.

So I understand why you made this point on Bell here, but when new information came into play your read didn't evolve. Why? Am I misinterpreting the tell that you're talking about here?

In post 281, shellyc wrote:theres also a weird lack of a vote: shellyc despite bell saying "shellyc is obvscum due to meta"

Bell also has no intention of explaining the meta

Why didn't you address Bell's read on you after he explained it (and yes, I know that you did technically "respond", but it wasn't a response made in good faith).
Can you respond to the case and can you explain why you don't think it's genuine here?

In post 384, shellyc wrote:you arent even convinced by your own case

I didn't like this response - to me, this is a potshot. I liked Bell waffling on his case on you a bit - felt genuine to me and seems strange for Bell at this point to suddenly decide to weaken his position on you by expressing that vulnerability when everyone was townreading him and ignoring him already and you weren't in danger of being lynched (no risk of accountability, everyone still townreading him).

Vote: ShellyC

And after spending a bit more time with the ISO, this is where my vote feels the most comfortable.

In post 1363, zMuffinMan wrote:i mean ideally we'd just get a scum flip after sending over two people and cakez goes "grats youve got 11 ICs" but realistically not that likely so just hedging bets

In post 1359, unwnd wrote:This thread

{Spiffeh, Muffin, Annie}
{Titus, Bell}
{Imperium, Brian, Gypyx, Hench}
{A50}
{Pooky, Piss, Shelly}

Other thread

{Peta, Deacon, Superb}
{S_S, FL}
{LLD, MWB, Dandelion}
{Sinkhole, Firebringer}
{Skitter}

In post 1358, Annie Edison wrote:Firebringer listen to cobra Kai and unwnd. Remember the teachings of my dojo.