Mafiascum.net

Yes

I hope I didn't use the wrong one

its "they" I need to update my profile now that I've slipped lol

If I'm being honest, I think Gamma is town but a little confused fwiw.

I can see where the thought process can come from as town but I do want him to explain it himself as I need to verify if it matches up with what I'm theorizing.

wait why was plusjoyed even a wagon they only have 5 posts

i was just sheeping andres LOOL

In post 1076, Bypasser Catcher wrote:Hayker can you post a reads list for me rq.
Reasoning for each slot appreciated but not required

alright I was doing a little research to see what was going on and such with the gamestate cause I was getting mad confused but I'm gonna follow up on this request that I actually forgot about - > @hayker

VOTE: Hayker

And gamma im not trying to deflect from ur push here, I want to still engage you. If you don't engage me, well, that's a bit cowardly especially considering how weak your case is against me. I don't understand why you'd make such a weak case for a slot you yourself are also suspicious of right now tying me to them.

I've thought about it for the past 20 minutes and I've decided i think im actually confident enough to locktown gamma here. Explanation on request after gamma responds to me.

In post 1345, Bypasser Catcher wrote:

In post 1343, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind

That sounds really dishonest, if I'm being honest, Gamma.

I'm not going to explain why you are wrong right now so I can get info on other people's reaction to your move - but I will say your reasoning and logic is notably weak. Are you perhaps bluffing and hoping to get a reaction out of me?

Keep in mind you came into a slot that had a lower starting point for how I was reading it, since NPOM hadn't been especially towny before he got force-replaced. So really it's just a piece of the puzzle. You came in to a scumread slot, posted things that I thought were towny for the incorrect person I thought you were, I recalibrated when I found out your real identity and had less confidence in my townread but still felt you were kinda town, and then your NM handling brought you back into the SR zone. So with that, I don't think my read is that weak or that I'm being dishonest. And no this isn't intended as a reaction test.

In post 1356, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1345, Bypasser Catcher wrote:

In post 1343, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind

That sounds really dishonest, if I'm being honest, Gamma.

I'm not going to explain why you are wrong right now so I can get info on other people's reaction to your move - but I will say your reasoning and logic is notably weak. Are you perhaps bluffing and hoping to get a reaction out of me?

Keep in mind you came into a slot that had a lower starting point for how I was reading it, since NPOM hadn't been especially towny before he got force-replaced. So really it's just a piece of the puzzle. You came in to a scumread slot, posted things that I thought were towny for the incorrect person I thought you were, I recalibrated when I found out your real identity and had less confidence in my townread but still felt you were kinda town, and then your NM handling brought you back into the SR zone. So with that, I don't think my read is that weak or that I'm being dishonest. And no this isn't intended as a reaction test.

So here's where I point out that your claim that my progression is "terrible" is bunk.
Between the point where you quoted that I said NM is prob town and shifted to a scumlean, there were 300 posts Gamma. 300. I recently played a game with NM where I was able to correctly sort them as town in a vanilla setup. This isn't a place where I'm seeing the same vibe from NM. I'm not infallible. I make mistakes. I'm definitely allowed to rectify them later when I see evidence that shows that I was wrong.

As for that last quote, that was mostly facetious with light seriousness that I want the claim to play out. You also scumlean the slot as per your recent posts. You can understand the PoV then why I want that too. You come off as a person who takes every statement people make as serious especially over text so I don't fault you for thinking I was just "flip flopping" there.

I said I'd wait for more reactions but I'm feeling impatient at the lack of activity rn.

Also you pinpointed the exact theory I had in my head about what I noticed wrt your progression on my slot.

So what brings you to believe this is specifically me being scum, seeing as your read is also based in who is occupying the slot?

In post 1135, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 1048, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 1040, Bypasser Catcher wrote:Gamestate just declared not_mafia town. The fact hes at hammer distance this fast with no real cooperation between townies shows it.
Town are just voting bc of playstyle dislike and scum are piling on.

Sometimes this way of thinking is accurate, but it's been a weird slot since the beginning and I could easily see scum distancing themselves from it.

And yet you were the first to flinch. Try again.

I don’t know what you mean.

I don’t want NM anymore for two reasons.

A: We already have more than enough information about which slots are willing and not willing to yeet NM to the moon.
B: They softed PR.

For these reasons i want to explore other slots right now.

We can always move back to NM as need be.
But i don’t want to leave shady slots such as Hayker in the dust.
I found their voting pop in wolfy and could see it as a vote from scum on both town or their scum partner.

In post 746, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 733, quiet wrote:

In post 728, Luca Blight wrote:Hayker. PlusJOYED. Cheeky.

I’m on board with all of these, especially hawker.

These are also (I believe) the first, second, and third most lurkey slots. Do you have any reads that aren’t on lurkers? Or was that the basis of your reads?

I've given a number of non-lurker reads already.

I'm also not scumreading those slots for their lurking, but for their content (or lack thereof).

scumreading for early lurking without content is the same thing as scumreading for not having content

I like bypassess entry. Not-mafia-esque, more content then troll.

In post 729, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Momrangal is prob town too.

Yup

Ehhh. Bypass is now more troll than content.

I don't like to following progression. Also, andre, what vote are you talking about from ranny before this?

In post 778, Andresvmb wrote:Oh and that vote by Ranny also seemed off. Somebody already expressed it but that blatant role fish by DGB... I just really doubt Scum would do that. I can already see myself being super self conscious about attracting that much attention to myself by doing something so obviously anti-Town.

In post 781, Rannygazoo wrote:I know that “scummy” does not equal “scum”, but today I am not buying any arguments along the lines of “that’s so scummy, it has to be coming from town”.

However, the DGB subplot has been explored to my satisfaction for now.

In post 782, Rannygazoo wrote:For reference, in my last normal game, the scum team acted out with “too obvious” scummy things like quickhammering and voting together in a bloc. I don’t intend to let anyone get away with that unexamined in this game.

In post 783, Rannygazoo wrote:VOTE: Cheeky given up?

In post 825, Bypasser Catcher wrote:i have a daycop guilty on mini

Wrong format. We use a specific template for these things.

Wow bypass is real again with 830-831-832 I like that.

I can't believe I'm in an actual real live game with not mafia. It think I may have played with them before in in a bastard game, but not a normal one. This is surreal.

In post 939, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 886, Mizzytastic wrote:

CheekyTeeky

has requested replacement.

Not_Mafia

has asked to enter the replacement queue.

Not_Mafia

replaces

CheekyTeeky

Something pings about this

ping gamma

Pinging gamma with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from gamma: Destination net unreachable.

Ping statistics for gamma:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),

In post 1004, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Is Not_Mafia even readable?

Not that im aware of. I think for the good of the game we are fading them. Besides cheeky was a good fade target.

Not mafias 1008 reads list looks like he shoved everyone's name in a blender and thats what shot out.

....sigh...

In post 1015, Not_Mafia wrote:

In post 1013, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 1012, Not_Mafia wrote:Nero Cain is pretty obvtown

So what the hell is your order above?

I used random.org list randomiser to randomise the playerlist then moved myself to the bottom of the list

In post 1178, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm an Even Night Weak Neighbouriser

Wow, that claim came fast after it was suggested by someone. It's kinda belivable. I can't help but think day 3 were gonna get excuses tho.

EDIT Not excuses, just lots of trolling.

In post 1202, Momrangal wrote:More likely than not, NM wouldn't have been pushed to L-1 and even if he did, there were just enough people giving him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't even need to claim.

I feel like the claim drop was a means to make people stop focusing on him which, overall helps the game state because the game is more than just NM so...

Let's do that?

Makes sense. I just don't like that his PR claim is good enough to be useful, while at the same time weak enough to be believable as to why they would not to be killed overnight.

In post 1203, Momrangal wrote:I could drop a vote on Ranny I think, there are to many slots that I don't have an opinion on but the last few sequence of his posts felt like shit

In post 1204, chkflip wrote:VOTE: Rannygazoo

LET'S FUCKING GO MOM I GOTCHU

ewwww

Shit i meant to spoiler that,a nd I wasnt done yet.

In post 1343, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you decided to whiteknight NM and once the momentum slowed felt like expressing a lean scum read on NM that you still have no intention of acting on
I might discuss it with others but I don’t think you’re gonna change my mind

Are you town reading not_mafia?

Interesting theory, but I'd rather flip not mafia.

In post 1037, Luca Blight wrote:VOTE: Plusjoyed

Actually I want to see something from this slot.

you will not

In post 1125, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If i could vote both Hayker and Plusjoyed at the same time i probably would.

ur pfp is cute and cultured go hayker

In post 1367, PlusJOYED wrote:

In post 1125, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If i could vote both Hayker and Plusjoyed at the same time i probably would.

ur pfp is cute and cultured go hayker

Okay

no one else scumreads titus huh

In post 1369, PlusJOYED wrote:no one else scumreads titus huh

They're in my PoE

Has any scimum bypassed you recently Koba?

In post 1370, Bypasser Catcher wrote:

In post 1369, PlusJOYED wrote:no one else scumreads titus huh

They're in my PoE

Really? What did I miss?

I scumread Titus