Mini Normal 2223 | Town Wins!

[MathBlade]

Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Alien, Babysitter, Bodyguard, Checker, Commuter, Sane Cop, Detective, Doctor, Encryptor, Finder, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Jack-of-all-trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Mailman, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, PT Cop, Roleblocker, Role Cop, Rolestopper, Role Watcher, Tracker, Traffic Analyst, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher

Yeah I double checked scum babysitter is possible. So why do you exclude Titus scum babysitter Owo?

[MathBlade]

I think Titus, Marci, Manatee, Me is the block, and omo/mathblade are like auxiliary to the block.

Does anyone in the block listed (not the auxiliary) disagree with the block?

I veto you believing this because you expressed sus on Titus so this feels fake.
I also don’t like you didn’t like me commenting on it while still calling me town.

[Dwlee99]

If there is a vigilante or any town killing role I put the odds that "babysitter" is scum north of 80%, regardless of Titus' scummy day play.

[MathBlade]

If there is a vigilante or any town killing role I put the odds that "babysitter" is scum north of 80%, regardless of Titus' scummy day play.

I would put it 65% as Mafiascum has intentionally ran setups recently to discount that line of thinking.
But yeah.

I think Titus if scum definitely true claimed for cred, but since she’s not dead, I would argue she’s more likely town true claiming than scum true claiming.

I don’t think Titus as scum fake claims a role with like 0 pressure because of “deadline” without a long term gambit in play here which again points to deep wolves

[Dwlee99]

Also something that pinged me about dwlee was the tinfoil hat image he responded to me with, back when I was talking about how I'll never assume he's a mason again.

Felt more like a mock than a meme, but this probably means nothing to anyone else

Your theory was that I fake claimed mason to specifically buddy and then push you. Even if I was mafia I don't think I plan that far ahead.

[MathBlade]

Furthermore if Titus fake claimed we would be looking at something like Titus Owo.

She just doesn’t gambit without a plan. It’s not like her.
It’s much more likely she is town and scum is in owo or Kyo who shaded her.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Owo
I think I like my vote here based on day play and will help me figure out if we are in scum Owo land or if we are in town Owo land which then has drastic consequences for the game as a whole imho

[ManateeDude]

I think Titus, Marci, Manatee, Me is the block, and omo/mathblade are like auxiliary to the block.

Does anyone in the block listed (not the auxiliary) disagree with the block?

still hesitant on omo i think i dropped my perspective on them wayyyy to quickly but otherwise i agree pretty much.

im probably gonna do some analysis tmrw BUT rn im focusing on passing my classes for the rest of td

[MathBlade]

Lunch break is over but will check back later.

If Owo is town I need them to start town telling here because then TvTVT becomes incredibly likely and I start looking in a Titus or a Kyo or Marci elim

[Dwlee99]

Math why do you think Max is town?

[MathBlade]

Math why do you think Max is town?

Because no one has followed you yet I really gotta go sorry.

[Dwlee99]

I can wait for responses. I don't think resistance to a wagon means the wagonee is town.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

also don't care that you didn't ask me

Don't really care that you answered, it's just that I'd say a block is only a block if every member considers every other member a part of it. So for it to be a block including me it cant include you or Math atm, with the doubts I'm having

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think Titus, Marci, Manatee, Me is the block, and omo/mathblade are like auxiliary to the block.

Does anyone in the block listed (not the auxiliary) disagree with the block?

I veto you believing this because you expressed sus on Titus so this feels fake.
I also don’t like you didn’t like me commenting on it while still calling me town.

...Okay? I do believe this. I don't think you're following that the discussion I was having with you around Titus was more meant to sort you and see if I have a blind spot. I'm not suspecting Titus.

I have degrees of confidence. You and omo are above the town line but below the townblock cut-off.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also something that pinged me about dwlee was the tinfoil hat image he responded to me with, back when I was talking about how I'll never assume he's a mason again.

Felt more like a mock than a meme, but this probably means nothing to anyone else

Your theory was that I fake claimed mason to specifically buddy

and then push you

. Even if I was mafia I don't think I plan that far ahead.

I don't remember the bolded. I think it was more that you fake claimed mason specifically to buddy, and when that didn't work, you switched gears. I did not think you had a long-term plan to fakeclaim mason and then flip on me. The intent was just to buddy imo.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

For context I have mistaken Dwlee for a mason like 3 games in a row. So he would have a reasonable expectation that I might think so again.

[marcistar]

I said im lurking. salsa what r ur thoughts on max rn? you lay down a vote but im curious how serious it was

Said already, I think her lurking in this game is scum indicative, the vote on her is moderately serious. Like

Math

, I also think now we have at least one deepwolf (considering both

Dwlee

and

OMO

are town).

u said u think im town, so who does that leave as the deepwolf?
"considering both dwlee and omo are town" how do you know that..?

What if it’s

Max

and

geraintm

? 2 lurkers

i do think geraintm has a decent chance of being scum here, but max im kinda unsure on.

pedit: these wagons are giving me the spooks. omo and dwlee voting together, and Max and Salsa voting together, cross-voting
TvS wagons I think.

i dont think scum would wanna wagon together so openly. do you think they would?

1-5 Maricstar omo dynamic is interesting. Marci might be a wagon to save owo.

didn't think of this originally.

Looking at this VC here, assuming Titus town, I know I am town, then if there is scum in the wagon it is in Marci/Kyo/owo if the wagons are TvT as I suspect then a Marci Kyo wagon pops up again. I coulda sworn Kyo was the first voter on DGB though I am going to have to reread that.

i voted drippinggoofballs slot early on (i think in the first few pages..? not sure exactly) and just never moved off.


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out of 1333s vc,
i dont think owo would be a good move, they've felt generally towny to me this game.

max is a good vote, im not sure if i exactly trust theyre vt rn.
so is dwlee, they could be doing a lot more but they aren't doing much.

i really really really want geraintm today to give us stuff, they better not slide by like a slipperly snake

[Dwlee99]

For context I have mistaken Dwlee for a mason like 3 games in a row. So he would have a reasonable expectation that I might think so again.

If I was trying to buddy you instead of joke around I could have just put a soft there that would look like a mason soft.

[Dwlee99]

so is dwlee, they could be doing a lot more but they aren't doing much.

???

[ssbm_Kyouko]

pedit: these wagons are giving me the spooks. omo and dwlee voting together, and Max and Salsa voting together, cross-voting
TvS wagons I think.

i dont think scum would wanna wagon together so openly. do you think they would?

I think now that its scum!dwlee making himself associated with town!omo. Third scum is someplace else off the DGB wagon - most likely geraint or N_M. I dont think it was a bus D1.

[Dwlee99]

Kyo do you townread max?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

No, I just think if you're scum that Max and Salsa are town, so until I'm not convinced you're scum I'm less focused on her.

[Dwlee99]

Does that imply you'll stop thinking I'm scum eventually? That you know you will?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

It doesn't, but it is possible that I will.

[Titus]

I think Titus, Marci, Manatee, Me is the block, and omo/mathblade are like auxiliary to the block.

Does anyone in the block listed (not the auxiliary) disagree with the block?

I'm okish with this block. I don't like owo in it.