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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:53 pm
by Enchant
In post 1349, Radical Rat wrote:Hmm

Well, I don't think it's at all suicide for scum to try, as evidenced by Dwlee's continued life, but I do agree it probably comes from Town for now.
Town lose nothing from elimming Hated before Elo happens to avoid him getting quickhammered by mafia to win. So yeah that's suicide, Dwlee town.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:01 pm
by Radical Rat
In post 27, Gypyx wrote:
In post 24, Dragon of the West wrote:Does "Hated status" just lower the threshold for a lim by one per stack on that person?
think of it more as a vote constantly placed on you but ya this is correc, and additionally it deactivates in YeLo
Elo quickhammer isn't a concern. Town gains nothing from limming them early, and loses a chance to hit scum.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:06 pm
by Enchant
In post 1351, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 27, Gypyx wrote:
In post 24, Dragon of the West wrote:Does "Hated status" just lower the threshold for a lim by one per stack on that person?
think of it more as a vote constantly placed on you but ya this is correc, and additionally it deactivates in YeLo
Elo quickhammer isn't a concern. Town gains nothing from limming them early, and loses a chance to hit scum.
Eeeeeeeeeeexactly.

If any concern, anyone can just say "lmao dwlee scum elim he is hated anyway losing nothing"

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:11 pm
by Radical Rat
It is losing something though: The chance to hit actual scum.

But I suppose it doesn't matter much right now, we both townread them, so we're probably not limming them today

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:16 pm
by Enchant
Yep.

Why Almost50 is your main target? I find him trolly, but probably town.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:31 pm
by Radical Rat
Because I don't think a single thing he's done all game has been pro-Town. Early game nothing but fluff/jokes, easy pushes on lurkers, which isn't necessarily scummy on its own, but then there's the part where he attempts to manipulate me into eliminating myself, and giving a fake inno just before deadline that derails Town off the actual chosen wagon and leads to a rushed lim on Dragon of the West.

And then today he's given some substantive content, but none of it actually looks any better.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:26 am
by Almost50
I fully agree with RR. This A50 guy is ruining the game, and the faster we get rid of him the better. :P

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:33 am
by Skybird
In post 1338, Morning Tweet wrote:I suppose my question isn't "why do you find enchant suspicous" as much as "Why is Enchant your primary suspect?"

I'm not saying you're wrong to suspect there but i find it odd that he's your primary pick, if that makes sense
He's my main target because I'm getting tired of people being in the game and not playing. Now I see he is starting to post and I have something I can start evaluating.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:53 am
by Enchant
In post 1355, Radical Rat wrote:Because I don't think a single thing he's done all game has been pro-Town. Early game nothing but fluff/jokes, easy pushes on lurkers, which isn't necessarily scummy on its own, but then there's the part where he attempts to manipulate me into eliminating myself, and giving a fake inno just before deadline that derails Town off the actual chosen wagon and leads to a rushed lim on Dragon of the West.

And then today he's given some substantive content, but none of it actually looks any better.
"Aris is confirmed town for me" and "I am Investigative and have Inno result on Aris" is different things, can't believe you falled for that. But maybe yeah, it makes them possible team.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:31 am
by Radical Rat
Generally, I expect "confirmed Town" to mean.... Confirmed Town. While the exact method of confirmation can be a variety of things, a townread, even a strong one, is not a confirmation of anything, which is why I had to ask you to clarify on Dwlee, despite it ostensibly being impossible for you to have real confirmation.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:39 am
by Skybird
Enchant, have you had a chance to read the game? What's your thoughts on RR?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:27 am
by Enchant
It's bad, because it's pretty common here to call people "confirmed town" and "confirmed scum". Atleast i see it often.

Also... You listened to Almost50! Who trolled whole game! Actually let's forget about it, i don't want debates.
In post 1360, Skybird wrote:Enchant, have you had a chance to read the game? What's your thoughts on RR?
Not fully, i skimmed to get base "what is going on". Rat is still my null, but there's interesting case, where they believe Almost50 is evil for that "lying". But if you think, why Almost!mafia could do that? To save other mafia of course (it's also possible Almost50 is town while Aris is mafia). Atleast i think, it makes more sense for Rat push Aris, not Almost50 to understand Almost50 alignment (elimming Almost50 tells about Aris alignment only if flip scum, if flip town, it doesh't tell anything really. While regardless of Alim alignment, it tells something about Almost50).
And i think Almost!maf doesh't do that for Aris!town... Unless that's plan all along.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:38 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 1342, Enchant wrote:Oh right... I am in this game.
hi enchant

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:39 am
by Skybird
Yes, I have been town reading A50. I was also leaning town on Ari. So A50's antics didn't really bother me. Towards the end of the day it was getting uncomfortable though.

Where do you stand on A50?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:39 am
by Enchant
Hello, kitten.pfp

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:39 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 1357, Skybird wrote:
In post 1338, Morning Tweet wrote:I suppose my question isn't "why do you find enchant suspicous" as much as "Why is Enchant your primary suspect?"

I'm not saying you're wrong to suspect there but i find it odd that he's your primary pick, if that makes sense
He's my main target because I'm getting tired of people being in the game and not playing. Now I see he is starting to post and I have something I can start evaluating.
Suppose that's fair enough but in my mind it makes more sense to not have him as a kill target. Either way shouldnt matter now

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:41 am
by Morning Tweet
ND wagon is the way

i would accept a Tarou CW though

it's time to do something and waiting for pooky's 6 other lists is taking too long

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:41 am
by Morning Tweet
Why is Tarou voting RR

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:44 am
by Skybird
He seems to be engaging in the game now. As things go on I most likely will move my vote.

Noted that you don't think he should be a kill target.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:45 am
by Enchant
In post 1363, Skybird wrote:Yes, I have been town reading A50. I was also leaning town on Ari. So A50's antics didn't really bother me. Towards the end of the day it was getting uncomfortable though.

Where do you stand on A50?
I will oppose elim of A50 for today. Later it become more clear, so i am not taking hard stance for now.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:47 am
by Morning Tweet
Why would you push someone who is AFK over people who can give reactions? you see how that is not helpful, yeah?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:47 am
by Morning Tweet
In post 1336, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1333, Skybird wrote:Sure Pooky. When I flip green I hope the rest of town will realize who the scum really is.
Is anyone even voting for you?
Also what is this?

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:48 am
by Skybird
MT, here's why Taro is voting RR.
In post 1230, Taroumaru wrote:
In post 1048, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1036, Taroumaru wrote:
Vote:RR


Tbh we should have lynched Ari last day.
Then why are you voting me and not Ari?
Because I am not willing to put the effort to push it.

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:48 am
by Morning Tweet
I saw that and to be honest it didn't really answer the question

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:49 am
by Enchant
In post 1370, Morning Tweet wrote:Why would you push someone who is AFK over people who can give reactions? you see how that is not helpful, yeah?
I disagree.

5-6 votes on lurker are pretty motivating.