1. Skybird, who is very unlikely to die
2. Whemestar, who claimed FN and was going to confirm himself to someone at night anyway making him a waste to try and clear
Both pretty bad picks for this hypothetical role imo
~Spiffy
I could kinda see the logic in picking the closest-to-confirmed confirmed town player (Wheme) as a check on a player you suspect (Skybird), but that doesn't line up with the explanation he just gave
you're right though, we should just kill this
I agree with the logic of why it was a bad choice, but not the end resolution you came to.
It makes no sense to kill this. We have to hunt elsewhere no matter what. If Galron is scum, their ability is to steal money. I'm not too concerned about that, as an ability.
I think it's worth using this time to hunt elsewhere and play the odds about parity cop instead of just killing them.
If this were a court of law, I'd Rule 56 you and get atty fees for it.
Titus can u explain this for me bestie
-GE
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:02 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1321, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't think it's correct to kill them here either way. It's worth getting another result or seeing scum shoot them for us.
I'd say in general the odds of Galron choosing to peek at exactly both a player that was killed and a player that was robbed are really low and so I don't think it's still really likely that his claim is true or that he's town
however due to my role I will track him again tonight so if I live to D3 I can confirm it tomorrow, therefore I'm not sure if I'm fully opposed to letting him live today, but I want to think about it. @Galron, can you use this ability every night?
I can upgrade to rolecop if I have enough gold, and I can't use the comparing ability then.
Rolecop is not a stronger role than parity cop
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:24 pm
by Cephrir
i failed to read the second half of 1340
this is scum
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:26 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
I mean, shrug. I don't believe the claim but I've seen worse claims be true.
It's mechanically correct and correct from a game theory perspective to leave them and hunt elsewhere here but I'm honestly not up for trying to argue that with this town. I've already talked too much for my liking.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:31 pm
by GuiltyLion
wait also, Galron claimed to be robbed himself, so he shouldn't have enough gold to upgrade to Rolecop yet. I would expect to see him do another parity cop check tonight if he were town with no money, the fact that he tried to imply that he can't due to potentially upgrading his role is just a lie.
In post 1249, Galron wrote:OTH -- can you two come to an agreement? Gamma, what makes me town? Marci, why am I scummy?
eh i had reasons, but i dont think i agree that ur scum anymore.
In post 1264, GuiltyLion wrote:one hypothesis I had is that I think scum would have been more likely to throw some token shade/distancing towards Galron today rather than actually step up to defend him or profess a townread (done by others like Lukewarm, Bell, DV). I didn't like this post because it feels like it's meant to get in my good graces / disassociate from Galron more than it is actually help get him eliminated. OTH has been a target of suspicion and picking up votes and yet they still hadn't voted Galron (or anybody at all) through most of D2, that's a bad look
gammas kinda right, i didnt rlly wanna vote galron when me and gamma were at a disagreey stage
but also when i said that i could see galron being scum i wasn't hella confident in it.
Spoiler:
i wasnt confident because (473, 474) made me feel bad for him : - (
"still havent voted anybody" : - ( i dont like voting when im not confident : - (
In post 1292, Cephrir wrote:i mean if he has a good claim we can discuss not killing him idk what the concern is with some votes
In post 1334, Cephrir wrote:I think we should probably just kill this. Yes, he did produce, like, the only thing you can claim in this scenario. I don't know that I loved the delivery of it.
i think these are not best vibes..
In post 1328, Bowser Jr. wrote:Um I am definitely limming the player who was tracked to someone killed, someone stolen from, and loverized to an extremely obvtown player
We are not letting Galron live today.
~Spiffy
In post 1330, Bowser Jr. wrote:I refuse to believe he as Town COINCIDENTALLY targeted two players that bad things happened to last night
The fact that anyone is considering letting him live today is laughable
~Spiffy
i think having this mindset is not a good thing, i think sometimes coincidences do happen
i dont want galron to die today ee
~M★
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:50 pm
by Wisdom
Vote dunn with us or Ceph if you prefer and we'll join you
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:52 pm
by Off The Hook
VOTE: Dunnstral
I’m feeling like the points against Galron aren’t enough to condemn him when his claim could do some good imo
Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped
marci also sus ceph and I’m lean town on him but also a bit tbd
-GE
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:57 pm
by Icebox
I'm tired, should I claim.
Also, Galron being a parity cop would be pretty funny. If it weren't so sad.
-Bell
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:59 pm
by Icebox
I don't think me claiming would help much of anything, but maybe it would help with some puzzle pieces.
-Bell
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:10 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1366, Off The Hook wrote:Dunnstral meanwhile has felt consistently scummy even after his PR dropped
My what
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:11 pm
by Icebox
What are the odds the loverizer is puck.
-Bell
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:11 pm
by Dunnstral
Since when has OTH thought I was "consistently scummy"?
They didn't mention this at all
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:12 pm
by Icebox
You're always consistently scummy. It goes without saying
-Bell
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:17 pm
by Off The Hook
I posted a full set of reads mid-D1 in private chat and my feelings on Dunn then were that he felt scummy but the post restriction was potentially also pissing me off
Now that the PR isn’t active I still don’t like what Dunn is posting so I’m willing to actually act on that
