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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:29 am
by Bub Bidderskins


Scarra might have touched on why the NA scene performed so poorly. He said they basically went all-out for a whole month and thought they were really well prepared. Yes, that is a lot of work, but these Korean teams have been practicing all-out for their entire careers. The playoffs so far have proven that in order to be at the top you have to give 100% to the game and nothing less. They need to prepare like that all the time if they want to compete in S3.

And also, I agree 99% with what Hindu said.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:31 am
by Hinduragi
Hell, I blame Riot. The internet thing was definitely something that could've been prevented. I don't think they deserve THIS, especially to the scale it's grown to be. If there was a definitive place where all of this started and was stated all at once with pitchforks being raised all around, the "Well, that escalated quickly" picture would've been perfect. 10k upvotes perfect. I just think that right now, the best thing the community can do is deal with it, no matter how frustrating all of it is.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:32 am
by Nexus
Yeah well to be fair the League of Legends community on the whole is pretty shit.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:36 am
by scotmany12
Nexus wrote:What's he say? I'm on my netbook and can't watch videos atm.

I recommend watching it when you have the chance. It's hard to summarize all the things he touched upon. He thinks they prepared as best as they could do (they were only really able to scrim against TSM) and that after the loss to clg.eu they werent mentally tough enough in the saigon jokers game, allowing jokers to outplay them, and he basically feels horrible for their performance.

His comments on the na scene seems to be spot on. Dig was only able to actually scrim against TSM (and TSM, according to scarra, even thought that Dig was going to make it out of group stage). The two clgs were busy scrimming with each other, curse streams all the scrims, and legion/mme/orbit all had commitments that prevented them from scrimming. After that there is basically no one else to practice with, which scarra says is a huge difference between NA and the other regions.

Also, Hindu's post on the issues was pretty great.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:03 am
by mykonian
Kcdaspot wrote:http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/880380

teemo says this was completely salvageable at time of surrender

miss fortune kept on killing me and bot just couldnt hold thier own.. and teemo kept on killing their teemo simultaniously when thier teemo killed him.

i dont think it was salvageable with this team.. i know it can be done but... no one had enough skill to beat them out.


Well, lets do the same as the previous time. I don't exactly know if you knew who was going to go mid, but that should be doable. As kayle, you have surprisingly little to fear from anyone but MF, and even her you beat in a lane. You don't need a regrowth pendant. (which is basically the panic item. AAAAAAAH they are going to murder me).

So, coming into lane, you don't know a thing. You wait till 1.54 and then you facecheck that bush. Just don't. You don't gain a thing from it. If they stay there till the minions come, hide behind your minion wave and try to farm. If they come in then they fight your minions as well. Just leave it.

Then, you find out it's xin/mf you are playing. You probably remember xin from the previous time. The guy seriously hurts early game. Mf is ranged. Nothing you can't deal with. Until you at 3.50 or so, you facecheck the second bush, behind their minion wave, where the mf is. With a xin in lane who is lv2. Jumps on you, gets 3 hits off, that's it. That wasn't aggression you needed to use. You could have farmed and each time Xin tried to get a minion throw a slow or an autoattack on him.

And that's where I stopped!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:35 am
by RXK
Kcdaspot wrote:
teemo says

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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:38 pm
by InflatablePie
Bub Bidderskins wrote:Kayle makes me feel so awesome.


WHY ARE YOU PLAYING KAYLE THEY SAID

KAYLE IS TERRIBLE THEY SAID

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:51 pm
by Andrius
terrible freeweek is terrible :/

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:08 pm
by Bub Bidderskins
Kog'Maw and Jax though...

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:10 pm
by Andrius
I own Jax. Kog'Maw's good, I just have no desire to play him.

On another note, apparently VasudeVa used to play this game when he was here
alive
. ;_;
<3 and miss you bro.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:11 pm
by Bub Bidderskins

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:19 pm
by mykonian
Andrius wrote:terrible freeweek is terrible :/


Fiddle is there. What more can you want?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:11 pm
by GreyICE
LLD just carried a game hard as AD Son~

Was so cool

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:22 pm
by IH
Twitch is free.

Jesus Christ how horrifying.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:06 pm
by pickemgenius
twitch is super good man.

i need to play more twitch and draven.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:11 pm
by Andrius
Some nights... solo queue rocks.

Friended an enemy Vayne and Janna, picked up two teammates from the next game which was a HECACARRY.
And now we're besties. <3

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:28 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Me and Grey just won a game where we were down to our nexus only (it was at 300 health or so too at one point) and our team didn't take an AD Carry so I went AD Sona.

Super lulzy.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:44 pm
by KageLord
mykonian wrote:
Andrius wrote:terrible freeweek is terrible :/


Fiddle is there. What more can you want?


This.

My mains have been Fiddle and Jax, so... :shifty:

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:03 pm
by Andrius
@myko: Was hoping for like, Olaf or Shyv. I own Fiddle so nothing new there. :/

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:54 pm
by KageLord
Andrius wrote:@myko: Was hoping for like, Olaf or Shyv. I own Fiddle so nothing new there. :/


Should buy Shyv, bro. Covered up my mistakes well the first (and only) time I jungled.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:27 pm
by PJ.
pickemgenius wrote:
i need to play more
twitch and
draven.


I also need more draven in my life.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:29 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:51 pm
by PJ.
Andrius wrote:terrible freeweek is terrible :/



I don't know, i might try Twitch. No interest in Lux, own the rest. Bummer there is only 1 6300 for the new people tho. Like for smurfs/real new players, I can see this week being extraordinarily annoying. Twitch, trynd, Kog, Panth, Fiddle, Jax are all pretty annoying when fed. Not enough Survivability in this batch.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:23 pm
by Nexus
It's a great free week purely because there's no fucking Teemo.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:31 pm
by JDodge
going to drop more wall o' text theory bombs on your collective heads tomorrow if i have time (going into seriousmode for ONM this week to apply the stuff I've learned off of watching WCs and have to update WITP - these take priority right now)