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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:20 pm
by Marquis
In post 1373, Majiffy wrote:Ok then look for in-thread reasons to lynch doduo. Not like there isnt plenty.
nope.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:38 pm
by Doduo
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:29 pm
by Speedy Saki
In post 1334, Titus wrote:Majiffy/Mollie/Saki/PV/Lying Cat/beast
Our four scums should be in there. Please pick a scumtean from that group.
This provides that GG is town. Given only my scumreads are minorly pushing yhe slip and GG agrees with me, I am supposing I am wrong for now.
I would love to work with you, Titus, but there is a problem:
To me, you have one conf town and 3 town in your list of 6 people. I have to choose four, but there are two remaining (PV and Lying Cat).
Are you going to go 'kalala I'm not going to listen why you think they are town cause there MUST be four scum in this six'?
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:29 pm
by Speedy Saki
* and you are in the six too so kalalala
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:50 am
by Titus
No. I want you to tell me why my setup cannot be right. Obviously, I see zero conftown, so let's start there. Who is the conftown snd why?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:51 am
by Titus
Oh wait duh...brain fart...who are the other town and why...
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:19 pm
by Majiffy
Boy, this game got quiet. Sup wit dat. Weekend?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:31 pm
by Titus
People know my scumteam is good. That's why no one wants to talk... and a little weekend.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:44 pm
by Guilty Gunsmith
Im here Im just too lazy to switch accounts.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:45 pm
by Antihero
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:04 pm
by Speedy Saki
In post 1380, Titus wrote:Oh wait duh...brain fart...who are the other town and why...
Conftown: Saki(duh)
Town: Majiffy, Mollie, Beast,
Remaining: LC, PV
Majiffy should be obvtown because of his back and forth with mastin. Go take a look. Sure, for the latter part of this game he has been playing total shit (discrediting his own read, self voting), but shit play =/= scum. If you're scumreading based on the self vote shenanigans (which nobody is buying) then it is very sad.
Recently, he just attempted to quell town apathy by bumping the thread (#1381). No way a scum would do that... apathy is to their advantage.
Mollie town is a newer read. Her recent posts are extremely obvtown, for example #1001, #1134, and #1143. Take a look at them and I'm pretty sure you can catch townvibes there, I hate going into detail but yeah should be a clear cut one
Beast town isn't something I can explain articulately as the previous two, its more of a subjective read as compared to the two objective reads above. I have many many games with Beast, and he is certainly acting town here, so lets just call it "gut & meta". #801's first sentence also gave me a ton of townvibes, although it is meant to be a joke, I absolutely do not see scum pulling a joke in that fashion. This read is quite difficult to get across to you Titus, since it is not primarily based on logic, so you'll have to take my word for it.
yep
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:22 pm
by Majiffy
It took you 1000 posts to start reading Mollie as town?
Oh right you're scum.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:39 pm
by Perpetual Nonsense
weekend dodge. have lots of time monday
jiffy's last few posts seemed kinda town maybe im wrong about him idk, and yeah mostly talking in my own little QT so.....i should probably talk more here..
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:40 pm
by Perpetual Nonsense
In post 1385, Speedy Saki wrote:Beast town isn't something I can explain articulately as the previous two, its more of a subjective read as compared to the two objective reads above.
is this metal
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:36 pm
by Wickedestjr
I am currently around page 39/40. About halfway done catching up.
mastin2 wrote:But I explicitly said it was not exactly a readslist. Just a feels-list. Something highly fluid and in change. (Which is an important factor: reads change.) Kinda, "closer you are to the top, less concerned I am; closer you are to the bottom, more concerned I am" list. Which I suppose is vaguely reads, but not a readslist. You're vaguely suspicious but maybe not. Your position reflected that.
You call it a 'feels list' as if your list was too careless for me to scrutinize rather than a well thought out 'reads list'. But we have to draw the line somewhere. Your four definite town reads at that time were the four players at the very top of the list. And three of the four players at the very bottom of the list were players you had or eventually voted pre-outage. So you clearly put
some
thought into this. There'd be no point to a list if you hadn't. I was listed below two of the players you voted - that hardly seems like the slot for a vaguely suspicious read. You were obviously careful to put your strongest town reads at the top, so if I was not really a strong scum read, why were you not careful to put your strongest scum reads in order at the bottom? I have a lot of trouble believing you here.
Fast forwarding to 768, 875, and 876, you again have me listed among the bottom four slots and have proposed a scum team including me. What has changed since you previously read me as 'vaguely suspicious'? Because I had been V/LA...
mastin2 wrote:As scum, pinning down players is my strength. Believe me when I say. If I was scum. I most certainly would have realized that and had taken it into account. Literally every scum game of mine has been won largely because I know players, know how they think, and can set up circumstances to be beneficial to me. (After all, it takes a truly masterful scum player to claim scum in-thread to secure victory. /still ridiculously proud of that game.) And if you look at Vesperia/House Party, you'll see they had a scum hider (well, sorta, in Vesperia). Which I ranted at the mods of those games, linking to...Armor's Tough Guy Mafia, for why it is a ridiculously-OP role that can secure scum victory in any game unless the scum player screws up. And those games, with their respective rants? Are both within REALLY recent memory, so events tied to them (such as my linking to our last game) are also fresh in mind.
I had it in mind. My alignment regardless, you can believe me on that.
Okay, you have convinced me that you didn't forget about the game. But I am not convinced that you actually considered it when reading me.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:20 pm
by Wickedestjr
@mastin2 - what did you think about
post 175?
Titus wrote:I think Mastin/Majiffy is t v s or s v s. They didn't quarrel like this in house party ever and they were both town.
How confident were you, at the time of this comment, on a scale of 1 to 10?
@beastcharizard - How confident are you that Doduo and ZZZX are connected? And why do you think that they are connected?
In post 816, Speedy Saki wrote:
This makes beastcharizard OBVTOWN
and by that it makes doduo scum
i'm with jiffy on this one
Why does beastcharizard being obvtown indicate that Doduo is scum?
I think mastin2's VCA is completely ridiculous and confirmation bias. She said that it was probably wrong but her best guess. I have trouble believing that mastin2 actually considers this possibility, however. LC/MTD/Majiffy (my three hypothetical partners) all voted for me, MTD/Majiffy/I have all voted for LC, none of us have voted Majiffy, only I have voted for MTD, and we have all voted or expressed suspicion of mastin2. What kind of scum team plan/dynamic is that? I found an article that you wrote regarding VCA - you clearly said that scum typically divide and it is
incredibly rare for scum members to all vote together. This seems to contradict your 'best guess' in this game. What gives?
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:04 pm
by Marquis
too many questoins
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:04 pm
by Marquis
might be going solo
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:16 pm
by Titus
@Wicked, I'm about a 7 out of 10 confidence level on that. Tonal shifts don't happen overnight.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:18 pm
by Marquis
for some reason i just really dislike posts that ask a bunch of analysis-related questions because it feels as if nothing ever comes of those
@mod sub doduo -> marquis. maybe at least until ns gets back idk
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:28 pm
by Antihero
Marquis told me she thinks computers run on magical fairy dust.
Also, noted.
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:04 pm
by Bulbazak
Read through page 25. Just going to say that there are a few players that are not towning it up like I'd expect, and that's bothering me. I'll have more when I finish the catch up.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:16 am
by ZZZX
In post 1395, Antihero wrote:Marquis told me she thinks computers run on magical fairy dust.
Also, noted.
Wait... Don't computers really run on magical fairy dust?
You are confusing me mod... :<
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:20 am
by Perpetual Nonsense
In post 1397, ZZZX wrote:Wait... Don't computers really run on magical fairy dust?
There is no such thing as computers.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:27 am
by Bulbazak
Mine is a box powered by hamster wheels.
*goes back to reading*