Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:34 pm
VOTE: Enter
if wiz is scum ill get'im.In post 1324, Enter wrote:tell me about ofhrz pls wisdom
The claiming is dumb, but not so bad. The wagoning/claiming has been muted thus far.
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:34 pm
The claiming is dumb, but not so bad. The wagoning/claiming has been muted thus far.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:35 pm
notedIn post 1376, Fuscosco wrote:if wiz is scum ill get'im.In post 1324, Enter wrote:tell me about ofhrz pls wisdom
The claiming is dumb, but not so bad. The wagoning/claiming has been muted thus far.
VOTE: ofrhz
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:36 pm
One day you'll become as good a townplayer as me (sarcasm)In post 1374, Wisdom wrote:has it or youre just scum and im being an idiot
Sabrina does look town after all and im annoyed you were calling her town so essily
At least you finally get to the correct answer!
How confident are you in being able to catch scum. (Not just wisdom.)In post 1376, Fuscosco wrote:if wiz is scum ill get'im.In post 1324, Enter wrote:tell me about ofhrz pls wisdom
The claiming is dumb, but not so bad. The wagoning/claiming has been muted thus far.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 pm
lol quote is wrong.
Call me crazzzzy but Id rather leave strong and active players alive if I dont directly scumread them and there are decent alternatives. I thinl daveslot should live for now and face the Night Actions that may come his way.
VOTE: unvote
Call me crazzzzy but Id rather leave strong and active players alive if I dont directly scumread them and there are decent alternatives. I thinl daveslot should live for now and face the Night Actions that may come his way.
VOTE: unvote
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:39 pm
I think we're in a good spot.In post 1378, MariaR wrote:catch scum
*shrugs*
today Im okay with one of our claims. thats what I want.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:40 pm
no it shouldn't
you lynch scum, you dont wait for actions to do stuff to them
you lynch scum, you dont wait for actions to do stuff to them
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm
hmmmm Im okay with ....
- chenn
- gamma pressure
- dunn for inactivity of late
- vedi
- light, though lessso as of late
- starwing because i have nothing on them
in fact, I forget why nobody has mentioned them. Did they claim or something?
Sabrina seems hasty
ausuka seems easy
ank might be scum, but i dont know how to tell yet
i ave no opinion or orhz
enigma is vig
and maria doesnt seem scum, and im waiting to see them slip/talk
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:45 pm
like we can go anywhere, but does anyone really wanna lynch outside of these? and think theyll get support?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:45 pm
sooo, starwing?In post 1382, Fuscosco wrote:in fact, I forget why nobody has mentioned them. Did they claim or something?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:46 pm
enigma is watcher, chennis is vig
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:48 pm
starwing is prolly scum but thats for tomorrow or for the vig
today its enter.
today its enter.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:50 pm
1v1 me wisdom
this doesn't end well anyways
u lynch me today they sheep me tomorrow then u die
we lynch u today then u die
we lynch ofhrz today she flips scum then u die
we lynch sab today she flips scum then u die
this doesn't end well anyways
u lynch me today they sheep me tomorrow then u die
we lynch u today then u die
we lynch ofhrz today she flips scum then u die
we lynch sab today she flips scum then u die
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:51 pm
this doesn't end with u not being caught
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:52 pm
theyre free to scumread me if you flip town
you wont
you wont
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:18 pm
Enter why am I scum?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:51 pm
VOTE: enter
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:08 pm
Yes, and why does it look like theatre to him?In post 1255, Fuscosco wrote:he means theatre. it looks like theatre to him.In post 1250, Ausuka wrote:i don't understand how 66 is meant to be forced.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:10 pm
AllegedlyIn post 1385, Wisdom wrote:enigma is watcher, chennis is vig
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:12 pm
It's RVS and she wants to mess around? Which is normal?In post 1260, Enter wrote:What's the town motivation for her to self-vote?In post 1251, Ausuka wrote:what's the scum motivation for ofrhz to selfvote here?In post 1232, Enter wrote:Self-votes are scummy. Anti-town and I've seen like 2? townies use self-votes when not trying to AtE, but like 3 more scum, off the top of my head.
VOTE: ofhrz
whatIn post 1260, Enter wrote:You trynna say scummy things aren't scummy in the opening post?In post 1259, ofrhz wrote:This was obviously part of my entranceIn post 1232, Enter wrote:Self-votes are scummy. Anti-town and I've seen like 2? townies use self-votes when not trying to AtE, but like 3 more scum, off the top of my head.In post 15, ofrhz wrote:Hi everybody!
My name is Selina Meyer, and I'm running to be your president! Can I count on your vote?
VOTE: ofrhz
VOTE: ofhrz
and even if it wasn't, this is a pretty surface-level read
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:13 pm
because it's an easy way to get the game started generally.In post 1262, Enter wrote:@Ausuka, why do we have RVS? Why don't we typically use RQS, for example?
No amount of theoretical talk is going to justify calling somebody scum for self-voting in RVS. You know people mess around in RVS. You know that there's no reason for ofrhz as scum specifically to do that, and that it's a joke.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:16 pm
Except most people don't think like this and you know it? I also think you're wrong because there's not really actual lynch threatening going on in RVS and selfvoting can lead to discussion but that's not really relevant so. People mess around in RVS, not everything is for the sake of generating content alone.In post 1267, Enter wrote:I'll tell you what reactions you get from a self-vote:
"why did you self-vote" (that's NAI)
"I don't like it when people self-vote" (also NAI)
"I'm glad they self-voted" (NAI)
Here's what stances you show on other people when you self vote:
None. Because you don't respond to anyone, you don't show willingness to vote anyone, you don't jump on a wagon that already has five people on it
Let's compare that to voting someone else:
There were five votes on GE this game, that's particularly interesting:
ofrhz votes someone on the GE wagon: this might be a legit serious stance
Possible reactions:
"do you not like the ge wagon, ofrhz?"
"what did that specific player do that the others didn't do?"
One of those players flips down the line and now all of a sudden it's a little easier to see why ofrhz might vote them in RVS - to get some possible distance in (weak, sure, but better than nothing)
Mafia is a game of reading people.
You read people by getting them to react to things
One good way to get people to interact with things is to threaten to lynch them if they don't
One good way to threaten to lynch people is to vote them
This is why we have RVS
In RVS no one has any reads on anyone
So we begin threatening to lynch everyone
We put our votes everywhere
We see what stances people are willing to take
We see how people are trying to play the game
Who has an agenda - people tehy dont necessarily want lynched no matter what
Who has no agenda - willing to look at anyone and definitely trying to figure out what's going on
By self-voting, you refuse all town motivations in RVS
It's a sign that you already know who's who and what's what, because there is no confusion, no need to push elsewhere to garnish reads
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pm
probabilitiesIn post 1390, ofrhz wrote:Enter why am I scum?
because it's theatricalIn post 1392, Ausuka wrote:Yes, and why does it look like theatre to him?In post 1255, Fuscosco wrote:he means theatre. it looks like theatre to him.In post 1250, Ausuka wrote:i don't understand how 66 is meant to be forced.
i'm not responding to the rest of your slew of nonsense
if you don't understand what RVS is
why it works
or what's going on
that's fine
a lot of people don't
it's part of the reason we get a crap load of shit posters in RVS
people just think everyone just kinda does their own thing until something interesting happens
but don't put that ignorance on me
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:29 pm
wtfIn post 1396, Ausuka wrote:Except most people don't think like this and you know it? I also think you're wrong because there's not really actual lynch threatening going on in RVS and selfvoting can lead to discussion but that's not really relevant so. People mess around in RVS, not everything is for the sake of generating content alone.
explain what you think
I know
most people don't think like
also
please tell me that you think any wagon outside of RVS is ACTUALLY going to lead to a lynch.
Tell me that.
I know you know it isn't true. The first couple wagons coming out of RVS aren't going to lead to a lynch. They almost never do.
In fact there are loads of wagons that happen every game that will not lead to a lynch, and anyone who's aware of what's actually going on knows it.
But pepole read them and use them.
WHy?
Because almost everything in mafia CAN BE AI for some players at some times in some ways
it all depend son the circumstances.
Only studying the wagons that have potential to lead to a lynch is dumb, and that's the mindset you're trying to use here. You read a lot more than the wagons that lead to lynches.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:30 pm
Enter you're the only one spewing nonsense here. This isn't really about rvs at all; it's about how you're claiming selfvoting in rvs is a bad play and are saying ofhrz is scum for making a bad play instead of, like, just town making a bad play.