911: What's Your Emergency? (Postgame)

[Vedith]

And what opinion is that?

[insomnia]

Why do you think I'm scum here?

[insomnia]

And what opinion is that?

You honestly think skitter planned from the beginning to pocket me? You very well know I can defend myself without the help of a scum bud, she's done it to look town because I probably have some issues when trying to explain myself or my thought process. I am not full objective at times and that's why people disregard me because I tend to go AtE in my cases.

I have pushed Baezu without any reason to do so. I could've pushed any other narrative if I wanted.

2 scum players either pocketed me or called me a great player without any justification towards that. Do you honestly think I'd let Baezu say that? I'd coach the shit out of what she would have to say / push. I threw my suspicion on Baezu on day one and then followed my read on day two.

You know that I have soft spots for people that town read me and defend me. You've done the same shit to me when we played Dinner Donner. You know how well that works. That's why I didn't push skitter.

And if my scum buddy died, why would I push my rolecop? I was the first to begin accusing Baezu after re-reading the thread.

What else do you want me to do

[insomnia]

Spoiler:

I still want to lynch YM though

What about YM makes you think they’re scum, though?

I already have a case and people have already discussed this

Please game solve on your own and stop fence-sitting before I choose to vote you instead of YM

This will probaby happen either way

Lynch list : YM -> Enigma -> Baezu

^ in case I die

Ok I've re-read everything until like page 17 and I've come up with this

VOTE: Baezu

K, reading more I can see a Baezu - MariaR scum team

which makes me feel more comfortable about my town read on tris

and the one on GL

and the one on Enigma

Volxen has good posts as always, if baezu flips town then he would be the next person I'd look into. He knows how to build a proper scum case and knows when to take advantage of an easy push. If Baezu is town then his actions are really scummy and therefore he's an easy scum read / push.

Given volxen's lurkiness, I tend to believe he's a really analytical person, because even though he's not that active, when he is, he goes for quality rather than quantity. You can see the amount of time and effort behind a scum read ; the lengthy thought process.

Volxen has good posts as always, if baezu flips town then he would be the next person I'd look into. He knows how to build a proper scum case and knows when to take advantage of an easy push. If Baezu is town then his actions are really scummy and therefore he's an easy scum read / push.

Given volxen's lurkiness, I tend to believe he's a really analytical person, because even though he's not that active, when he is, he goes for quality rather than quantity. You can see the amount of time and effort behind a scum read ; the lengthy thought process.

I'm really not sure what your read on volxen is after reading the above. Is he only a scumread if baezu is town? Theres nothing independently scummy about him and he's a townread otherwise?

I townread volxen I just want to poke your brain

I’m town reading him because his accusation on Baezu is a good one

What I’m also saying is if we push Baezu and he flips town, there’s a chance volxen has orchestrated a good push on a scummy town, given his analytical nature. He isn’t a stream of consciousness poster, he takes his time to analyze every step and post he makes.

Anyways, tomorrow I’ll be on holiday for like 2 weeks and so I’ll re-read everything and give my thought on potential scums.

As a point of reference, I don’t like Baezu or roster right now. For you to go on GL after you stacked votes in rvs with him, therefore I take it you share the same mentality, you can’t be turning on him like this right now and say he’s probably scum. That self-conscious argument is meh and it can’t be justified because you’ve only played one game with him.

I’ll be willing to get into a 1v1 later on. Given that I’ll have time to analyse everything I don’t want this lynch to go through that fast.

UNVOTE:

POE :

Skitter - scum

Baezu - scum

Roster/invisibility - scum

This is what I came up with, of course there's reasoning behind it but there are mostly notes that I took in a notepad file.

I'm leaning towards roster scum more than invis.

I think you’re scum, roster. Along with baezu.

VOTE: Baezu

Lynch this first as people are more open-minded to this, we'll proceed with roster afterwards.

VOTE: Baezu

She isn’t interested in getting out of a lynch today and it feels like she doesn’t want to point to her scum buds at this point.

This is L-1

My push on Baezu and my defence on Volxen. I pushed his case through. Even though he's a low activity player and I can just deflect legit anywhere else. Like on roster. I could've death tunneled him.

Again, volxen stated his case since day one and I just proceeded with it. Because he's a low activity player, his case can be forgotten and I can misdirect easily.

[Vedith]

Yeah you're right I'm confident that you're town actually.
I don't think that you clear me as town thinking about it.

So we lynch Yes Mafia
You jail Elbrin
Maria protects you

Kill means its Enigma or Tris.

VOTE: Yes Mafia

On a side note, Elbrin has no reason to clear Maria there as scum.
So again, I'd suggest Trish is jailed but it's you're call.
This also gives Elbrin potential to get a guilty/clear/whatever it is on someone, or at least the fear of it from scum.

[Vedith]

I think theres scum in at least 1 of insomnia/gl/rooster/skittles

Possibly scum doing that thing where they give accurate reads but 3+ names.

[Vedith]

I missed my hammer opportunity

VOTE: B
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This post in particular is pretty town like though.
Theres no need to add to instant momentum as scum here.

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: Yes Mafia[/umvote]

I do not like as scum.

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: Yes Mafia

[Vedith]

Enigma is always town too.

[Vedith]

I took a look at some of Baezu's games, and her RVS's there seem pretty consistent with how she was here. Even sometimes when there was more relevant content to react to. UNVOTE:

Scummy

[insomnia]

I took a look at some of Baezu's games, and her RVS's there seem pretty consistent with how she was here. Even sometimes when there was more relevant content to react to. UNVOTE:

You meta'd someone on page 3 about their RVS behavior?

I’m inclined to say this is a good post

P-edit: lmao vedith

[Vedith]

You wanna say more? VOTE: Yes Mafia

Defensive over Skitter being in the pile?

[insomnia]

VOTE: tris

[Vedith]

GuiltyLion, insomnia, ofrhz, Elbirn are all townreads.
Invisibility is tbd.
skitter30 I'm starting to lean town on.
Yes Mafia is...
I'd like to hear from Enigma on Baezu. Don't know how I'm reading Enigma yet though.
rosterfoster felt town to me earlier, but I would agree with others that 445 isn't great.
Baezu has been staying pretty null for me which could just turn into a scumread.
volxen hasn't left much of an impression on me.
MariaR, well I'll have to see what she says right now.

Scummy

[Vedith]

You know what. VOTE: skitter

Pretty quick change from the read list

[insomnia]

Yes, hi. Looking back at the first two days, Enigma is very unlikely to be mafia. He suspicious of Skitter early on, and was early on the wagon. He also floated the idea of Skitter Baezu team on day 1, and followed that up with being on the Baezu wagon on day 2. There would have to be some extreme busing for him to be scum.

While Yes only expressed suspicions of Skitter after that wagon was growing and wasn't even voting her, he did vote Baezu pretty early on day 2.

Maria really does look scummier, but I'm not comfortable lynching the possible doctor. So, I'm still voting Yes who is the least town of the other players.

You don’t have any scum reads

[Vedith]

Skitter hasn't done anything that makes me feel good about her as town that strongly. There's been little things that have possibly indicated that. But, the other games I've read or played in with her has town, she's felt more town. I would like her to be town.

This was a town lean recently before

[Vedith]

After skitter, Baezu might be the scummiest. I think I'll take a closer look at her read progressions.

Not sure how I feel on this post

[Vedith]

Not surprised by either of those flips.

VOTE: Baezu You mentioned earlier that your reads have been flip-floping. Could you break down why? For example, why did your read on Maria change?

This being the 1st vote of the day on them makes it worse imo.
It's just dabbling their toes in the water

[Vedith]

Skitter has been saying a lot of stuff I agree with. She might be town.

Skitter has been saying a lot of stuff I agree with. She might be town.

I think I say this stuff as scum.

You're probably right.

Pedit: Oh, interesting

You know what. VOTE: skitter

I completely read that wrong. I somehow read that as "I think skitter says this stuff as scum." As in skitter is capable of saying that as scum. Which I think is true.

no offense, but this progression on me is atrocious

Maybe means town Trish

[Vedith]

L-4 ym

I agree that YM hasn’t done much and has scummy posts, but I don’t like how fast the wagon built on him...

Vote Count 1.5

Yes Mafia (5)

- volxen, Baezu, tris, insomnia, Invisibility

Invisibility (2)

- MariaR, ofrhz

tris (2)

- skitter30, Yes Mafia

Elbirn (1)

- GuiltyLion

insomnia (1)

- rosterfoster

Not Voting (2)

- Enigma, Elbirn

As there are 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

You have

(expired on 2019-04-16 23:24:30)

until the deadline.

I think there is at least one scum between volxen, tris and invisibility. Of these, which do you think is the scum?

Tris maybe still scum

[Vedith]

Ofrhz- do you have a reads list?

From town to scum:

Tris, Elbirn, insomnia
Enigma, GL, roster
volxen, Maria
Vizzy, skitter, yes, baezu

Possible that Orfhz is MVP?
But I'm not convinced on Yes.

[Vedith]

Vote Count 1.4

Yes Mafia (6)

- volxen,

Baezu

,

skitter30

, Invisibility, rosterfoster,

tris

Elbirn (2)

- GuiltyLion, insomnia

Invisibility (2)

- MariaR, ofrhz

insomnia (1)

- Yes Mafia

Not Voting (2)

- Enigma, Elbirn

As there are 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

You have

(expired on 2019-04-16 23:24:30)

until the deadline.

I don't think Yes Mafia is voted so early by 2 scum as scum.
Tris voting means that scum were all pushing if Tris scum

[Vedith]

VOTE: Tris

Scum neibour.
If it's not Tris it's yes mafia but I'm pretty confident on that read as town.

Maria, Elbrin, Insomnia, and Enigma shouldn't be lynched ever.