Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[jjh927]

Is what Amrun's scum meta?

If it's inactivity then blame coronavirus

[gobbledygook]

Amrun lurks more as scum generally but I do not think this is it

[SirCakez]

This inactivity and perpetual promise to catchup

[gobbledygook]

She’s a healthcare worker with a young child

[SirCakez]

:0
That obviously changes things

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Though Amrun is busy she knows she can at least get thru day one without knowing she doesn't have to do. Much regardless of alignment

[mastina]

yes three scum in a two scum game

Yes I realize all three aren't scum.

But there's no world in which all three are town.

And quite a few where 2/3 are scum.

[mastina]

The follow up is why bother posting it if you knew it was aware in post #1 as the example role PM

Because the opening PM doesn't have the exact formatting that I included.

[mastina]

is this Amrun's scum meta?

Not gonna lie, don't remember Amrun's play that well and it's been years since she's played so her playstyle probably changed anyway, but like. Balance of probability from what I remember, yes.

[mastina]

This inactivity and perpetual promise to catchup

I mean.
That's basically my signature scum move according to others, so.

[mastina]

She’s a healthcare worker with a young child

I get that she is busy doing those things.

But she has provided no content this game at all.

I would prefer her prioritize her real life obligations over a game of mafia--but if she does indeed do so, I'd prefer that she be honest and if she legitimately doesn't have the time/availability to both play this game

and

still prioritize her real life obligations, to level with us and replace out. If she doesn't have the time, she doesn't have the time; there's no shame in replacing out when you're legitimately busy with real life.

But if she

does

have the time, and she's not giving that content, then why isn't she?

[mastina]

Like--
I get that this game has no deadlines, and Amrun and I both grew up in the era of games that had that by default, where a single game day could literally last a real life month, or two, or three, and we took all the time in the world that we needed in order to solve the game. We could, and did, afford to wait. If someone was busy, we gave them time. We had nothing to lose by waiting, we could afford it.

But the game has been going on for six days and Amrun hasn't given anything in that time except promise after promise that the content is coming 'soon', and the games are, by and large, largely stalled. (Is there anyone who doesn't think the games are stalled? Most people seem to be on the same stage that the games are somewhat stalled.)

And even back in the day, if games stalled, the mods would instigate deadlines to the day, and Jingle's rules explicitly say he'll do precisely that, too. So like. Even back in the era Amrun grew up in mafia-wise, her level of contribution just...wouldn't be considered acceptable.

The question I suppose I should ask then is how long are we willing to wait for content that has been promised yet not delivered?

A day's probably fine, but are we willing to wait another week? Fourteen days for content that doesn't show up?
So like--where will you draw the line before it's not really acceptable for Amrun to have done nothing?

I'm feeling extra-generous right now, so I'd set that as ten days total--four days from now. Over a week and a half's chance to produce content. That's plenty of time.

[BBmolla]

I guess for me it's asking Amrun if this is really a commitment she can handle right now

The things occuring in real life are for more important, and that's reasonable, but it's a little hard to play without anyone in that slot :/

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Yeah I mean I had the same thing with her in Purgatory I feel bad for the gal.

[SirCakez]

It seems to me if all of this is true, staying in the game reads like a scum move

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Cakez if you want a link I can provide you one

[Shuichi Saihara]

I don't feel prepared to draw that conclusion with the available evidence.

[Shuichi Saihara]

Actually, Cakez, why are you pointing at Amrun now? What about your Wonderwall scumread? It seems to me like I questioned why you weren't interested in pushing them and you've responded with "look over there! An inactive!"

[SirCakez]

Because im trying to figure out players I don't have reads on
I don't want to lynch Amrun rn I'm just trying to progress my reads

[SirCakez]

Wonderwall is still my strongest SR
Also I'm waiting on Dolittle and jormen replacements

[Jingle]

Not_Mafia replaces DrDolittle.

[SirCakez]

this should be interesting..

[Trojan Horses]

Oh

hellz yeah

it's my man Not_Mafia, I have a policy never-vote on the guy

[We are not helping]

I'm not a fan of Amrun being not active but it's sort of a weird touchy point cause of coronavirus.

Wagon NSG pls.

-bitmap

[gobbledygook]

Not_Mafia replaces DrDolittle.

This game just got harder