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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:15 pm
by jjh927
Is what Amrun's scum meta?

If it's inactivity then blame coronavirus

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:16 pm
by gobbledygook
Amrun lurks more as scum generally but I do not think this is it

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:19 pm
by SirCakez
This inactivity and perpetual promise to catchup

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:19 pm
by gobbledygook
She’s a healthcare worker with a young child

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:23 pm
by SirCakez
:0
That obviously changes things

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:33 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Though Amrun is busy she knows she can at least get thru day one without knowing she doesn't have to do. Much regardless of alignment

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:23 pm
by mastina
In post 1365, BBmolla wrote:yes three scum in a two scum game
Yes I realize all three aren't scum.

But there's no world in which all three are town.

And quite a few where 2/3 are scum.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:25 pm
by mastina
In post 1372, jjh927 wrote:The follow up is why bother posting it if you knew it was aware in post #1 as the example role PM
Because the opening PM doesn't have the exact formatting that I included.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:26 pm
by mastina
In post 1374, SirCakez wrote:is this Amrun's scum meta?
Not gonna lie, don't remember Amrun's play that well and it's been years since she's played so her playstyle probably changed anyway, but like. Balance of probability from what I remember, yes.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:26 pm
by mastina
In post 1377, SirCakez wrote:This inactivity and perpetual promise to catchup
I mean.
That's basically my signature scum move according to others, so.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:29 pm
by mastina
In post 1378, gobbledygook wrote:She’s a healthcare worker with a young child
I get that she is busy doing those things.

But she has provided no content this game at all.

I would prefer her prioritize her real life obligations over a game of mafia--but if she does indeed do so, I'd prefer that she be honest and if she legitimately doesn't have the time/availability to both play this game
and
still prioritize her real life obligations, to level with us and replace out. If she doesn't have the time, she doesn't have the time; there's no shame in replacing out when you're legitimately busy with real life.

But if she
does
have the time, and she's not giving that content, then why isn't she?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:37 pm
by mastina
Like--
I get that this game has no deadlines, and Amrun and I both grew up in the era of games that had that by default, where a single game day could literally last a real life month, or two, or three, and we took all the time in the world that we needed in order to solve the game. We could, and did, afford to wait. If someone was busy, we gave them time. We had nothing to lose by waiting, we could afford it.

But the game has been going on for six days and Amrun hasn't given anything in that time except promise after promise that the content is coming 'soon', and the games are, by and large, largely stalled. (Is there anyone who doesn't think the games are stalled? Most people seem to be on the same stage that the games are somewhat stalled.)

And even back in the day, if games stalled, the mods would instigate deadlines to the day, and Jingle's rules explicitly say he'll do precisely that, too. So like. Even back in the era Amrun grew up in mafia-wise, her level of contribution just...wouldn't be considered acceptable.

The question I suppose I should ask then is how long are we willing to wait for content that has been promised yet not delivered?

A day's probably fine, but are we willing to wait another week? Fourteen days for content that doesn't show up?
So like--where will you draw the line before it's not really acceptable for Amrun to have done nothing?

I'm feeling extra-generous right now, so I'd set that as ten days total--four days from now. Over a week and a half's chance to produce content. That's plenty of time.

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:44 pm
by BBmolla
I guess for me it's asking Amrun if this is really a commitment she can handle right now

The things occuring in real life are for more important, and that's reasonable, but it's a little hard to play without anyone in that slot :/

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:36 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
Yeah I mean I had the same thing with her in Purgatory I feel bad for the gal.

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:09 am
by SirCakez
It seems to me if all of this is true, staying in the game reads like a scum move

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:29 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
Cakez if you want a link I can provide you one

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:30 am
by Shuichi Saihara
I don't feel prepared to draw that conclusion with the available evidence.

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:32 am
by Shuichi Saihara
Actually, Cakez, why are you pointing at Amrun now? What about your Wonderwall scumread? It seems to me like I questioned why you weren't interested in pushing them and you've responded with "look over there! An inactive!"

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:36 am
by SirCakez
Because im trying to figure out players I don't have reads on
I don't want to lynch Amrun rn I'm just trying to progress my reads

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:37 am
by SirCakez
Wonderwall is still my strongest SR
Also I'm waiting on Dolittle and jormen replacements

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:49 am
by Jingle
Not_Mafia replaces DrDolittle.

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:50 am
by SirCakez
this should be interesting..

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:07 am
by Trojan Horses
Oh
hellz yeah
it's my man Not_Mafia, I have a policy never-vote on the guy :D

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:22 am
by We are not helping
I'm not a fan of Amrun being not active but it's sort of a weird touchy point cause of coronavirus.

Wagon NSG pls.

-bitmap

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:24 am
by gobbledygook
In post 1395, Jingle wrote:Not_Mafia replaces DrDolittle.
This game just got harder