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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:47 pm
by Titus
MariaR, what are your reads? Who would you leash me to? Do you feel mastina is correct in that Panzer is scum? Why is your vote still on Ari?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:02 pm
by MariaR
Why me Titus? Need a helping hand?

My vote was still on Ari purely because I forgot to be honest. Panzer could be scum but that read is more in relation to my own role more than anything else given I like the Tipsy push.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:03 pm
by MariaR
beeboy
Tipsy
Panzerjager
Donkey Kong
catboi
jks

Mastina
Chemist
Jackson slot
Titus
DK
Beeboy
jks
Panzer
Catboi
Tipsy

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:05 pm
by MariaR
Oh ignore the top part of that list I forgot to delete that when I was making my reads list. The bottom part is town to scum. As for leashing? Catboi/Tipsy. If Panzer is town I can't trust my own role so I really want to flip him but a cop is a cop

VOTE: Tipsy for now though

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:06 pm
by Titus
In post 1376, MariaR wrote:Why me Titus? Need a helping hand?

My vote was still on Ari purely because I forgot to be honest. Panzer could be scum but that read is more in relation to my own role more than anything else given I like the Tipsy push.
I want everyone on record. I am going to likely follow what the conftown say. Getting everyone on record gives people an opportunity to persuade conftown and gives associatives. So if you could answer your hypothetical vig pool, that would be great.

Go on about the Panzer could be scum. I think he's a scared opportunist.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:07 pm
by Titus
In post 1378, MariaR wrote:Oh ignore the top part of that list I forgot to delete that when I was making my reads list. The bottom part is town to scum. As for leashing? Catboi/Tipsy. If Panzer is town I can't trust my own role so I really want to flip him but a cop is a cop

VOTE: Tipsy for now though
Game is not bastard. You should be able to trust your role. Tipsy is Ari. You're already voting him.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:07 pm
by MariaR
Aww I was silently wishing you were asking me because you townread me.
pedit: It's not bastard, you should be able to get at what I'm hinting at though.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:09 pm
by Titus
In post 1381, MariaR wrote:Aww I was silently wishing you were asking me because you townread me.
pedit: It's not bastard, you should be able to get at what I'm hinting at though.
Suppose that I am wearing my dunce cap. Refresh my recollection.

For the future, unless I am frustrated, I ask more open ended questions to my null and scumreads unless I need everyone on record. I use tailored questions with townreads to persuade or scumreads to make a point.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:12 pm
by MariaR
If Panzer is town the mafia have counters that make me not trust my role.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:12 pm
by MariaR
Although, that makes me think only 1 of Panzer/beeboy are probably scum because the counter to my role would be beeboy

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:19 pm
by Titus
In post 1384, MariaR wrote:Although, that makes me think only 1 of Panzer/beeboy are probably scum because the counter to my role would be beeboy
Why can't Panzer be scum and beeboy be your counter?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:20 pm
by Titus
I struggle to see how we have a cop, two ICs, and this amount of town killing.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:21 pm
by MariaR
In theory it could be, but that would depend on the rest of the setup that I don't know about.
pedit: I agree given my role is like, busted. (Hi Mafia I'm just kidding don't kill me~)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:24 pm
by Titus
In post 1387, MariaR wrote:In theory it could be, but that would depend on the rest of the setup that I don't know about.
pedit: I agree given my role is like, busted. (Hi Mafia I'm just kidding don't kill me~)
My role is kinda busted if I could have delayed it. Now it's just as useful as the conftown are accurate.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:26 pm
by MariaR
I'm tempted to claim to help clear up my beeboy/Panzer theory but I'd only feel comfortable if I got help solving them/we did something about it. Scum may already know my role

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:29 pm
by Titus
In post 1389, MariaR wrote:I'm tempted to claim to help clear up my beeboy/Panzer theory but I'd only feel comfortable if I got help solving them/we did something about it. Scum may already know my role
Mastina, Chemist please comment


Based on the KPN, I would recommend sorting this out. We're lynching Panzer and I am leashed to vig beeboy.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:32 pm
by MariaR
Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:35 pm
by Titus
In post 1391, MariaR wrote:Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.
If beeboy dies at night, do you get your results in the PT that night?

If so, you could track and watch me. That would prevent scum from roleblocking me. You might also watch chemist.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:36 pm
by MariaR
In post 1392, Titus wrote:
In post 1391, MariaR wrote:Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.
If beeboy dies at night, do you get your results in the PT that night?

If so, you could track and watch me. That would prevent scum from roleblocking me. You might also watch chemist.
Yeah I still get my results if beeboy dies at night

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:36 pm
by PJ.
In post 1373, catboi wrote:
In post 1371, PJ. wrote:I lowkey feel there's a chance titus is scum and we should just bumrush vote her out. this whole vig shot things seems incredibly cointrived and performative.
I don't townread her and found her answer to my asking about her reads to be evasive, so.
You also voted for her to have audition tho...zzzz

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:41 pm
by Titus
In post 1393, MariaR wrote:
In post 1392, Titus wrote:
In post 1391, MariaR wrote:Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.
If beeboy dies at night, do you get your results in the PT that night?

If so, you could track and watch me. That would prevent scum from roleblocking me. You might also watch chemist.
Yeah I still get my results if beeboy dies at night
Ok, I gave Chemist a gun. He needs to be watched actually. This is regardless of who I am leashed to. Chemist needs to be protected. I had to make a choice between him and mastina. Since mastina has floated shooting me, I picked Chemist.

This is why I said Creature's calculations are off. He wasn't factoring in another town killing.

I would have held off but I don't think I am living longer.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:42 pm
by PJ.
In post 1342, Titus wrote:Here's the situation fmpov.

Scum expected my lynch Day 2. When they couldn't get it but instead saw their pool dwindling down, they had to make a call to double down or just resign themselves to hoping town makes a mistake.

That's why I am voting Panzer. His 180 on me makes him most likely scum gunning for the mislynch angle.

Given how widely suspected I am, I'll have to make another call before I want to. I am not sure whether or not it will bite me in the ass.
My 180 on you has entirely to do w/ your kinda unbelievable role claim and the fact that you were voted on audition solely by my biggest scum reads. I also find this "whole leashed" thing to be performwtive and hilarious considering you and mastina are like...2 of the worst players on the site and the most sensitive. Note: that you're both scumreading me for thinking you are scum(well I guess in mastina's case just thinking you're hilariously anti-town). Also vig is the easiest claim for bad guys to fake.

W/e get me out of here.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:48 pm
by MariaR
In post 1395, Titus wrote:
In post 1393, MariaR wrote:
In post 1392, Titus wrote:
In post 1391, MariaR wrote:Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.
If beeboy dies at night, do you get your results in the PT that night?

If so, you could track and watch me. That would prevent scum from roleblocking me. You might also watch chemist.
Yeah I still get my results if beeboy dies at night
Ok, I gave Chemist a gun. He needs to be watched actually. This is regardless of who I am leashed to. Chemist needs to be protected. I had to make a choice between him and mastina. Since mastina has floated shooting me, I picked Chemist.

This is why I said Creature's calculations are off. He wasn't factoring in another town killing.

I would have held off but I don't think I am living longer.
Will do.

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:49 pm
by catboi
In post 1394, PJ. wrote:
In post 1373, catboi wrote:
In post 1371, PJ. wrote:I lowkey feel there's a chance titus is scum and we should just bumrush vote her out. this whole vig shot things seems incredibly cointrived and performative.
I don't townread her and found her answer to my asking about her reads to be evasive, so.
You also voted for her to have audition tho...zzzz
Yeah because I was going along with the leashed vig concept at the time (and tbh I didn't realize how soon the audition closed). Felt like it was a chance to prove herself but now I'm skeptical. It was probably an error in hindsight, and okay, part of that is the suggestion we chain kill ari/me which i'm not okay with

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:53 pm
by catboi
like in a hypothetical scenario where we eliminate aristophanes and he flips town are people going to re-evaluate me or just keep clinging to the same lazy reads