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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:39 pm
by the worst
i'm somewhere around

tw
dats
ss
u
bugs
pooky (hard softed tpr + not s/s with aldus)
dsj
skitter
aldus

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:47 pm
by lilith2013
Reads on ss/my slot are based on prior players in slots?

Why is pooky so low if he hard softed tpr?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:51 pm
by the worst
pooky is pretty close to dead null & i'm not really interested in trying to work out their alignment w/o flips. lowkey would prefer if they were sorted by nk

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:51 pm
by the worst
just reiterating also i think aldus has the highest chance of being scum, and i really don't think he's scum with pooky.

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:52 pm
by lilith2013
Okay

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:54 pm
by lilith2013
I want to read first but will be asking at some point why you're scumreading aldus

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:54 pm
by the worst
thank u for the warning, i'll begin vigorously psychologically preparing myself for the interrogation

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:02 pm
by the worst
Image

this is the best i can do in 37 seconds but i'm not like super proud fo it; i can have another go later when i have more time

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:07 pm
by Datisi
hi lilith! hi s_s!

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:09 pm
by lilith2013
In post 1382, the worst wrote:Image

this is the best i can do in 37 seconds but i'm not like super proud fo it; i can have another go later when i have more time
oh lord. I think I'll stick to my current avatar if that's ok....
In post 1383, Datisi wrote:hi lilith! hi s_s!
hi datisi!

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:12 pm
by Datisi
i'm gonna UNVOTE: for the time being

maybe i'll revote later

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:13 pm
by lilith2013
can you give reads too?

will also be asking why you are/were on that wagon once i finish reading

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:18 pm
by Datisi
oh god my reads

town on donc, koba, bugs
sorta town on theworst, skitter
kinda town on aldus earlier but also meh
kinda nulltown on dsjstr but hia recent posts make me seem like there's gears turning behind the scenes
scumreading pooky but he's a claimed PR so lol me

anyway my reads are a mess this game

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:19 pm
by Datisi
either "make it seem" or "make me think", not "make me seem" :facepalm:

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:25 pm
by the worst
can you talk to me about sorta town on me and skitter?
also hypothetically assume I hypothetically claimed hypothetical masons with pooky, hypothetically, who would your hypothetical scumreads be in this instance?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:26 pm
by the worst
your town list feels like... very safe...

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:31 pm
by the worst
sigh.
VOTE: skitter

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:33 pm
by Datisi
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i thought your/skitter dance is kinda weird, like at some point during the timeout i thought that if neither of you is townreading the other (and skitter thinks you're scummy i think?), since you're both good players, kinda makes me think one of you could've caught ~something~ in the other

in that hypothetical scenario i guess still dsjstr/aldus? like i'd still not be exactly scureading them, but i think that's where i'd try to go first

pedit: oop

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:36 pm
by the worst
the dance has been on the back of my mind as well

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:41 pm
by the worst
I think a lot of skitter's play this game is scum indicative honestly. my biggest reservation is that the gradual trajectory low impact vibe is inconsistent with her recent scum meta but like.....it isn't consistent with her town meta either. it's either consistent with 1) town!skitter having a hard time this game or 2) scum!skitter shifting meta to avoid using the same style she did like a month ago

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:42 pm
by the worst
actually like
bugs scummed with her
she pocketed me
she pocketed you
uggfhhhhfhhh I'm right and I hate it

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:44 pm
by Datisi
can you like
talk a bit more about that?

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:52 pm
by the worst
In post 1057, skitter30 wrote:VOTE: tw

Imma vote here for now

He mentioned dayvigs at least twice earlygame so i believe it

I dont like the shot tho
this is her debut vote of the game and the more I think about it the less I think it's sincere

this plist at entry is v good at towntelling and is a huge PoE threat to any scumteam; idk about donco but skitter and I are probably the two with more infamous scumgames. her trajectory on me has been seriously understated and this vote came while I was Utterly Exasperated at the level 1 reaction test

I think I want external input on this but I think my reaction to the test is roughly neutral as either alignment; as town I'm motivated to try and push it across the line to sort donco as scum I'm motivated to look like town reacting or just disappear to avoid fucking up

the fact I didn't pretend to be surprised but instead tried to make the test seem more real was something that felt right; it wasn't engineered to look a particular way and at a surface level probably looks disconnected but I dont....really think I'm being scumread here?

DonCo's issue W me not wanting to main hunt them was also like...low-key repulsive

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:52 pm
by the worst
no

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:59 pm
by the worst
In post 1300, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1273, skitter30 wrote:I finally put my finger on it: he feels incredibly self-aware in the gamestate, in setups of former games, but he isnt using that to sort people

Like he's saying he knew the dk vig shot was fake, but he held onto that knowledge for a while for no reason, really, and doing so didnt really seem to translate in any way to reads
What do u guys think of this?
this post really jars with me as well. at the time I read it I was like "huh..do I?" but the more I think about it the more it feels like it's kinda just, words, or a half cooked meta analysis or something.

I don't feel any more self-aware in this gamestate than I usually do, sans being aware that I was irritated a couple of times early.

I also have exactly the amount of setup knowledge that anyone who mods & reviews games should have; I haven't spent any time like, deep diving old micros except for when it's directly struck me (like, the donco/Lilith slot) and I feel like the only things I've really weird in on are this + clarifying that the game isn't bastard which is like, one of the reasons I in'd to the game

Dkko's tone reads like an open book and I'm p sure the
literal dayvig reaction test
should have been fairly obviously fake - my only contribution during that exchange was to post faux twilight shit posts and try to make it look like this game was >rand likely to have a vig to try and make the situation more real



this reasoning... sounds like something that seems like it should sound good but it doesn't connect to me in this game at all