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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:22 am
by Egix96
In post 1373, tris wrote:yay!
GG. Surprised NM was scum there.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:22 am
by SirCakez
What a wack setup

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:23 am
by SirCakez
This game frustrated me a lot but I feel a bit better knowing all three scum were on my wagon

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:27 am
by tris
we were on every elim in fact

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:27 am
by Mizzytastic
Sorry about replacing out, I have a notes thread that explains it better - short version my difficulty playing was very real, maybe there was some scum cognitive load stuff but I've had it happen as town too.

Well done team!


I have some thoughts about setup but I'll do that from not my phone

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:31 am
by Testarossa
oof. This was a team combination I didn't really saw coming, but this explains the weird stalemate on D2 a lot.

gg scum

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:32 am
by tris
In post 1379, Mizzytastic wrote:Sorry about replacing out, I have a notes thread that explains it better - short version my difficulty playing was very real, maybe there was some scum cognitive load stuff but I've had it happen as town too.

Well done team!


I have some thoughts about setup but I'll do that from not my phone
i thought it was funny how you said you had been looking forward to play with skitter, and then she was your replacement.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:33 am
by Datisi
baaaah. eating the kill on n1 as a cop was yikes.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:35 am
by tris
In post 1380, Testarossa wrote:oof. This was a team combination I didn't really saw coming, but this explains the weird stalemate on D2 a lot.

gg scum
i played a bit risky there with the intention of moving onto sircakez. i was counting on alchemist not catching on too much, so that i could do that.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:36 am
by UnaBombaH
Yea, I'm sorry I wasn't around enough.
Been having a depressing IRL for the past few weeks again. :(

I do feel comfortable about being able to call tris scum and egix town though.
And I feel like it was very silly to have a 2S-1T hood overall.
I guess(?) it doesn't screw with the actual balance much, but it gives you a very false sense about the setup when you know that the scum don't have a daytalk in their own PT.
And then you put 2 of them in the hood that has a daytalk.
Silly. :lol:

Anywho - well played for scum I guess. :]

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:37 am
by tris
finally a scum game that i feel good about

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:38 am
by Datisi
gg scum, thank mod for modding, gib pts pls

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:39 am
by tris
lol. i was so much not in my towngame later on. i'm glad no one could tell.

pedit: yeah, i'm fine with pt releasing

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:39 am
by tris
well not no one

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:43 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I'm waiting for the listmods to release the PTs.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:44 am
by NoPowerOverMe
In post 1384, UnaBombaH wrote:Yea, I'm sorry I wasn't around enough.
Been having a depressing IRL for the past few weeks again. :(

I do feel comfortable about being able to call tris scum and egix town though.
And I feel like it was very silly to have a 2S-1T hood overall.
I guess(?) it doesn't screw with the actual balance much, but it gives you a very false sense about the setup when you know that the scum don't have a daytalk in their own PT.
And then you put 2 of them in the hood that has a daytalk.
Silly. :lol:

Anywho - well played for scum I guess. :]
How is it silly? Seems to balance out to me.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:45 am
by tris
In post 1388, tris wrote:well not no one
most importantly not test <3

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:45 am
by Datisi
@mod, pretty sure you do it yourself? like edit post #0, chance private to public, submit?

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:46 am
by NoPowerOverMe

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:48 am
by Mizzytastic
I figured we were gonna kill you early Una, maybe have one of us claim neighbour to have a more favourable meta on scum in neighbourhoods, and have a route to partial daytalk that way. But I also wasn't super comfortable with what I was supposed to be doing in the neighbourhood as a whole from either alignment.


On the setup: I don't think it's that wack. NRG position on balance is ~3 solid roles for 3 goons. You've got an activated IC, the even nights cop and a personal watcher who down the line can maybe confirm town power roles and makes fake claims from scum harder filling those slots. The even-nights symmetry gives you a bit of a hint. The 1-shot jailkeeper is a little extra to smooth out swing and give the town a bit more cos scum don't have 0 counterplay. The neighbourhood might go against site meta but the no day talk might hint there is something funky there and the NRG is also up for breaking from site meta in a controlled way so games don't get too predictable.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:50 am
by Testarossa
In post 1391, tris wrote:
In post 1388, tris wrote:well not no one
most importantly not test <3
That salt in the wound. :( That's the first time I have been that far off with my read on someone since I started playing here. You somehow pushed the right buttons to me.

To think that the first two major wagons of the game were on 2/3 scum.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:55 am
by NoPowerOverMe
I could see maybe making the Commuter a goon if I had to do it again.

But the town losing their cop and watcher early really hurt them in this go around.

I actually think town wins 55% of the time in this setup.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:46 am
by Alchemist21
Gg.

Tbh I wasn’t a fan of the 2s-1T hood because of the natural assumptions people would make about balance, but a lot of people did question it at some point so maybe it’s not an auto-lose setup for Town. I’m not really a balance expert.

Can we get the review PT? I’m curious what NSG and Mastina said about it.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:52 am
by NoPowerOverMe
Yes, but I can't unlock that one.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:40 pm
by Nero Cain
team makes sense. NM shoulda been lynched.