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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:13 am
by ManWithNoName
In post 1373, Galron wrote:But TL said that he triggered, so what random townie did he kill?
If this is the case, TL would be lying about his role.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:14 am
by ManWithNoName
Or, DT.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:15 am
by ManWithNoName
But, then, we still don't have a single scum faction kill in the game.

This is confusing.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:16 am
by ManWithNoName
I mean, maybe PP was a scum factional kill from another scum, there's no cult, and aliens holstered N1.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:17 am
by MathBlade
K.

So here’s what likely happened N1.
Galron/TL/Plus in that order of likelihood are SK who shot Penguin.
Nono is likely scum with Sam wondering why I didn’t die. Sam was frank in expecting me to have died and therefore said that. The SK of those three didn’t get the hint.

I have been playing the way I am because I am Bulletproof Town Doctor and I am weak. Meaning if I visit town I die.

There doesn’t make sense to be a roleblocker this time around. I was also on ABR both nights. So DT shot Taylor which started cascade effect and SK is likely not strongman.

There is a chance that Nono could be town here and weird with his powers but I think we elim Nono then I put my checks each night.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:18 am
by MathBlade
In post 1376, ManWithNoName wrote:Or, DT.
DT is likely not lying. Let’s not go down the road of dead town lying.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:19 am
by ManWithNoName
Wait, I thought weak dies on a visit to not town?

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:19 am
by Galron
I can't believe that they would holster. Still haven't seen their wincon though.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:19 am
by MathBlade
In post 1379, MathBlade wrote:K.

So here’s what likely happened N1.
Galron/TL/Plus in that order of likelihood are SK who shot Penguin.
Nono is likely scum with Sam wondering why I didn’t die. Sam was frank in expecting me to have died and therefore said that. The SK of those three didn’t get the hint.

I have been playing the way I am because I am Bulletproof Town Doctor and I am weak. Meaning if I visit town I die.

There doesn’t make sense to be a roleblocker this time around. I was also on ABR both nights. So DT shot Taylor which started cascade effect and SK is likely not strongman.

There is a chance that Nono could be town here and weird with his powers but I think we elim Nono then I put my checks each night.
If I visit not town.

Sorry typo.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:19 am
by ManWithNoName
In post 1380, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1376, ManWithNoName wrote:Or, DT.
DT is likely not lying. Let’s not go down the road of dead town lying.
I'm saying if TL is, in fact telling the truth he could have hit DT. I feel like he discounted that as well as everyone else.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:23 am
by MathBlade
In post 1381, ManWithNoName wrote:Wait, I thought weak dies on a visit to not town?
Typo.

That’s why ABR was mod conf to me because I was alive.

So if we elim Nono I turn into a cop and can likely give us the SK.

The missing kill from N1 is likely scum (SK or group) shooting in me+ABR.
Likely missing kill from N2 is likely scum (SK or group) shooting me.

Based on Nono wanting my claim scum probably shot me twice.
SK shot PP N1.

Then N2 DT shot Taylor starts cascade.
SK and scum try to shoot me.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:25 am
by MathBlade
In post 1384, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 1380, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1376, ManWithNoName wrote:Or, DT.
DT is likely not lying. Let’s not go down the road of dead town lying.
I'm saying if TL is, in fact telling the truth he could have hit DT. I feel like he discounted that as well as everyone else.
If TL is telling the truth, he could have hit DT and SK hit Taylor. I would prevent the kill on ABR that causes the chain, as doctor.
It’s unlikely SK shoots a scumread after how decimated the other scum team was.
Possible but not probable.

DT imho shoots Taylor here.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:26 am
by Galron
That may be it. Eliminate nono. Investigate me or Plus. I'm telling you though that I shot Plus, so I'm thinking ABR and Taylor kills were mine.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:29 am
by MathBlade
In post 1387, Galron wrote:That may be it. Eliminate nono. Investigate me or Plus. I'm telling you though that I shot Plus, so I'm thinking ABR and Taylor kills were mine.
Incorrect.

You have to kill someone for suicides to take place.

If you shot Plus and are town then someone else had to shoot Taylor.

The only way the chain happens if you’re telling the truth is someone shot Taylor.

DT shooting Taylor makes the most sense.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:31 am
by MathBlade
Lovers are players who are linked to each other. If one Lover dies, the Lover(s) linked to it dies simultaneously.
From the wiki^^
Incorrect. Plus has to die to start the cascade. If Plus did start the cascade as you said then they’d have to die and revive. Possible but then they’d be conf scum to you.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:33 am
by MathBlade
In post 1387, Galron wrote:That may be it. Eliminate nono. Investigate me or Plus. I'm telling you though that I shot Plus, so I'm thinking ABR and Taylor kills were mine.
Why would you want me to investigate Plus?

We know they’re not town. That just results in me dying.

The alternative is I could try to save my top town read.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:36 am
by Galron
I'm really confused. Why would plus be confirmed scum to me?

It doesn't matter to me. If you're town, investigate me if you think Plus is scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:37 am
by ManWithNoName
If Plus is neutral, as he's already claimed, that is still not a town role.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:39 am
by ManWithNoName
I believe weak roles die when they visit anyone not aligned with the town. Not just on a scum

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:40 am
by MathBlade
In post 1391, Galron wrote:I'm really confused. Why would plus be confirmed scum to me?

It doesn't matter to me. If you're town, investigate me if you think Plus is scum.
If you shot Plus and Plus died, that would be mechanically impossible due to Plus’s claim. They would have to die and come back to life. This isn’t represented. It’s much more likely if you shot Plus then TL is the SK who shot PP N1 and then tried to shoot me N2.

It’s the only way the kills work is if an SK/another scum group shot PP n1.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:40 am
by MathBlade
In post 1393, ManWithNoName wrote:I believe weak roles die when they visit anyone not aligned with the town. Not just on a scum
This.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:50 am
by MathBlade
VOTE: Nono

Going to hedge my bets here.
I am either going to investigate MWNN or Galron tonight. If I live I will say who is conf town between the two.

Then if scum/SK wants to avoid the wifom they have to kill Starbuck or TL.

If they kill Starbuck we don’t have a possibly selfvoting Townie in lylo.

And if they kill the latter they run out of room to hide.

Starbuck still gives me bad gut vibes but with the claims present they’re probably town.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:56 am
by MathBlade
Gun to my head I think it’s Galron because Sam likely blocked DT N1 then Galron tries to shoot me but since I didn’t die he thinks he was roleblocked then comes up with a story of shooting Plus to try to throw off mechanics.

Nono is probably last group scum if any exist.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:58 am
by MathBlade
Ps sorry if I was an ass.

Trying to draw kills and signal ABR I am going to be scummy as fuck to lure out the scum at the same time is hella hard.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:04 am
by ManWithNoName
I'm cool with this EoD.

VOTE: Nono

He's had plenty of time at this point, seems to be lurking through the game.