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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:03 am
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
In post 1359, Happy Birthday Boonskiies wrote:There's a good argument to be made that the remaining two scum are PRs, assuming we have 3 scum and somehow not 4. Actually, that is a possibility, isn't it? We do have a lot of flipped and claimed power so far.
it feels like you're responding to my points but not addressing me, if you think I'm asking townie questions or making good points about spec you know it's okay to say that when I'm the leading wagon :P

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:01 pm
by Bell
In post 1372, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:
In post 1368, Bell wrote:I still like my Hub vote tbh.

Though would like the other half of BEF's VCA.
what do you like about it tho, and why do you think you should not be in the middle of people's lists? What have you done this game that is ai from your point of view?
It feels nice to vote scum :]

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1373, Shoshin wrote:
In post 262, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 260, Tsunami Slayer wrote:Hm. Shelly seems scummy. That means Shelly is town. Done. Sorted.
this is town and i reached the same conclusion (so both shelly/tay and tsunami are town)
gypyx is probably town as well
taly seems town
VOTE: samantha this slot is scumpinging me
Looking back, I agree with HBB that this raises concerns. Scum tend to over justify reads they know are wrong, and while the reasoning is weak, it's also over justification relative to the other reads.
I could see this

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:47 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
In post 1376, Bell wrote:It feels nice to vote scum
So why aren't you doing so now?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:48 pm
by Bell
In post 1378, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:
In post 1376, Bell wrote:It feels nice to vote scum
So why aren't you doing so now?
I'm not?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:49 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
You say you can obvtown but if 1377 is what your level of argumentation will be like let me know so I can stop pretending like that will ever have a chance of happening in this game

Like really, that's the type of argument you want to go with? 'condescending and dismissive' is the attitude you want to convey?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:49 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
awfulposting dude

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:49 pm
by Bell
Are you asking me to treat you fairly.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:50 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
I'm supposedly your topscumread, I asked for literally any argument about your read, and you're turning your head up into your ass, smelling your own fart, and declaring it the fragrance of the year

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:51 pm
by Bell
Why do you want me to make a good argument if I'm wrong anyway?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:52 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
I want you to convince me you are thinking about this game and have reasons for the things you do in it

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:53 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
VOTE: Bell

Actually don't, I've stopped caring about your alignment, I gave you a good-faith reach out and you gave me some truly awful responses

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:53 pm
by Bell
That makes sense.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:54 pm
by Bell
You seem awfully upset about this.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:55 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
Mafia is a social game and you're using it as a pretense to act like a prick, if you don't want the game to be about logical reasoning then I don't really get why you're here

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:56 pm
by Bell
It is about logical reasoning but it's also about social reasoning.
I'm just pressuring you dude.
You defended scum last phase.
So I wanted to see how you'd respond.
I was about to unvote you and probably still will and be forced to drag you across the finish line.
But we'll see.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:57 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
Why was it so hard to just say that

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:57 pm
by Bell
Ah, sorry.
It.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:59 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
If every vote on my wagon is "I'm voting you for the sake of pressuring you" then I have nothing to actually respond to and my concerns, especially since Ari continues to just not play the game and there's like 2 other non-town that I honestly just don't know where are. To produce content that is readable, I need to be able to solve the people no my wagon and determine whether it's a misguided town wagon or a scum-driven wagon. GX is "feel like it" and you are "pressure" and TGP is "don't like it" ... how am I supposed to solve the alignments of any of those reasons lol, how is anybody?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:00 pm
by Bell
VOTE: Aristophanes

It wasn't kitty. I just play Dirty. Well, not really, you got upset on your own, but that's pretty common.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:06 pm
by Bell
I think your rage is fairly genuine, sort of town minded?
At the very least your focus was on reading me, while also losing your shit and not caring, but well, we all forget our win condition sometimes.

We all have our own play styles, but some of us just are mercurial it's not really in my interest to know that I'm town it's just in my interest to find scum.
I only really obv town when I need to because it's exhausting. I hate being pressured.

Not everyone is going to break out their textbooks and argue at you with logic tho.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:31 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
In post 1190, Ydrasse wrote:...:.....

okay so i might not have connected the dots that he didn’t claim commuter until recently
this actually is probably not helpful but it occurs to me that Ydra/GX is probably never s/s

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:36 pm
by Bell
mm.
faking ignorance is pretty common for scum tho.
I assume you're thinking they'd know their partners fake claim or something in an s/s world?

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:48 pm
by Happy Unbirthday Boon
I would think they'd at least be paying closer attention to it yeah maybe

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:27 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1393, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:If every vote on my wagon is "I'm voting you for the sake of pressuring you" then I have nothing to actually respond to and my concerns, especially since Ari continues to just not play the game and there's like 2 other non-town that I honestly just don't know where are. To produce content that is readable, I need to be able to solve the people no my wagon and determine whether it's a misguided town wagon or a scum-driven wagon. GX is "feel like it" and you are "pressure" and TGP is "don't like it" ... how am I supposed to solve the alignments of any of those reasons lol, how is anybody?
I like this sentiment tbh