In post 1372, Blitzo wrote:@Bell - I am an alt?
I'm not really sure what you're saying here.
@Taly - my statement about TGP was aimed at Bell, not you.
PEDIT - MC is correct that I have claimed to be an alt in another game, so I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm lying about it.
I was just hedging because I didn't personally verify it.
When I see player show up in a large theme and I don't remember seeing them before I think Alt account. But your lack of familiarity with early game play from more advanced players puts some of your play into perspective.
Just, do an analysis of a player and deduce whether you think they're town or scum. It doesn't matter who you do it on, you can do it on me for all I care. I just want to see if you're hunting.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:15 pm
by Akarin
In post 1373, Bell wrote:
2. I don't think titus is the only player that gets at least a little something from VCA, if anything it doesn't make sense that she wants to end the day with less information than we would've gathered through normal play.
I feel like "weird and not very convincing" are NAI for Gamma.
I don't mean that Titus is the only player that gets stuff from VCA, I think it's worth looking at too! But Titus can make a big stupid deal about it. I think (on some weird gut level, not based on any previous game) that leaving the day with less information isn't scum!Titus' likely approach to this kind of thing. That information can be manipulated, and Titus is a player that I perceive as being really able to get away with manipulating it. Strikes me as her resignedly doing what she thinks is the objectively best move, and I don't think there's any reason to act that way as scum.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:44 pm
by Blitzo
@Bell - Again I don't see how I haven't done that already.
I've called at least two or three people scum already - do you not see any validity in what I've said or is that not enough for some reason?
Also something I wanted to comment on since I kept losing track of it when I was trying to post about it the first time - BM claimed he didn't have many reads in #1158 and was confused about how I came to that conclusion.
He posted unexplained reads in #119, #287, #415, #419, and then proceeded to post more unexplained reads in #1197 and #1285. Again in #1317.
He then votes me later for unexplained reasons.
He doesn't seem to be following his own narrative and I don't like it.
@MC - where are you at rn?
PEDIT - Akarin I disagree with that sentiment completely, and think that line of thinking is more WIFOM than anything.
In post 1335, Bell wrote:This is town Bell speaking, yes. Yes, Hello, thank you.
hmmm
hmmm?
bell locktown
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:47 pm
by Blitzo
Time flew and I didn't realize how not a PEDIT that actually was.
That's embarrassing.
Anyways.
Bell I'm sorry if I'm not really following what you're trying to push here but I feel the exact opposite in a number of ways - I think that I've been pretty content-rich especially when you compare to to BM, who just drops names for next to no reason over and over.
If you want me to read a specific player then by all means let me know, but I don't see how I haven't "spewed" or done any analysis and I'm sort of confused as to why you keep saying that.
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:48 pm
by Blitzo
I mean sure, my post count isn't high, but I think my opinions are pretty well thought out and easy to understand.
Is there a particular reason you feel that that isn't the case?
@pooky - Is that a real read or what are you doing?
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:36 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1351, Taly wrote:I don't know what to say other than... just tell you to ask what you want to know? Uh.
It's definitely more in-good-faith to just ask if I'm not clear about something rather than perpetuate the narrative that I'm convoluted, which I feel others have done. (Alisae, DGB, Reck, even Murder a little)
I don't know what else to do for you. /shrug
There was not really anything for you to comment on which is why I found your last post weird
My original post was more of an open comment, not a question
In post 1346, Bell wrote:Could you explain Gamma, Titus, and if you have time (you can half ass it) Pooky?
In brief, I don't agree with all Gamma's reads, I think some of them are kind of ridiculous, but I kind of see where most of the stuff he says is coming from and it seems very actively solvey. Posts like 516 or 1029. Or the "scumslip" argument on Reck and then dropping it and thinking Reck was stubborn town rather than getting tunneled on it.
Titus it's partly that she's sitting stubbornly on No Elimination despite wanting the wagons for scumhunting. She could be pushing a wagon on town if she were scum, it's reasonably likely, and if she were scum, having more wagon analysis for BS later would be useful, but she's stubbornly sticking to what she thinks is best for town. Is it that impossible that she could have agreed with Alisae "for the wagon analysis" or something?
Also her mini argument with me yesterday, I thought she resolved in a very pro-town way when it would have been trivial to make that more anti-town.
Pooky it's the joy of trying to solve the setup stuff and how I feel we're kind of mind-melding on parts of it and I feel some frustrated-bear at places when I was feeling frustrated too. Not in the way that tons of people just want to whine about too much mech talk or "still being in RVS" (which yes, I know was Titus, but I don't think it's a scum thing, just a counterproductive thing that happens in a lot of games). Pooky feels like he's having the same thought process around some of this stuff in a way that I don't think is easy to fake.
I agree re:titus it is weird she was complaining about lack of VCA earlier and is now not voting
In post 1380, Blitzo wrote:Time flew and I didn't realize how not a PEDIT that actually was.
That's embarrassing.
Anyways.
Bell I'm sorry if I'm not really following what you're trying to push here but I feel the exact opposite in a number of ways - I think that I've been pretty content-rich especially when you compare to to BM, who just drops names for next to no reason over and over.
If you want me to read a specific player then by all means let me know, but I don't see how I haven't "spewed" or done any analysis and I'm sort of confused as to why you keep saying that.
This reads like a "why me" type scum flail
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:40 pm
by SirCakez
Oh the Bell thing - I was gonna say not that kind of hmm
More like hmm town Bell I played with before didn't feel the need to declare himself town
In regards to what? I posted all my reads this morning nothing major has changed since then I don't think
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:41 pm
by SirCakez
Call my scum pool rn (Blitzo, Bell, Taly, Haschel, MC)
I think I like this
Taly trying to figure out a way to "answer" my post which was not really answerable is not a good look. Seems like scum trying to appease .
In post 1385, SirCakez wrote:Oh the Bell thing - I was gonna say not that kind of hmm
More like hmm town Bell I played with before didn't feel the need to declare himself town
In post 1385, SirCakez wrote:Oh the Bell thing - I was gonna say not that kind of hmm
More like hmm town Bell I played with before didn't feel the need to declare himself town
Doubt
Say more
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:43 pm
by SirCakez
I'm going off of Xenoblade 2 where it seemed like he did not give a shit