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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:43 am
by Mistyx
i think it's exactly two in {red/chara/titus/infinity}

would
probably
pick chara/titus out of those?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:43 am
by jjh927
I'm at that place right now. I've come round on Infinity and think they're probably town after all

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:38 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1367, Mistyx wrote:i'm in a position where everyone seems to agree that the game only makes sense if i'm scum

and i'm not so

this game doesn't make sense
In post 1369, Mistyx wrote:i do think if i am misclearing it's not on jjh or twins, i would say it's on catboi or titus

maybe bob but idk
I suppose it’s possible that as Infinity was saying that I think your reads are bad and that’s the main reason I’m scumreading you and it also did look to me like you were trying to protect Vax and Chara. Iirc, in that anime game you tried to hard distance your buddies in that. You also seem to be extremely adamant against the push on you where as I think you just caved in that anime game but I really can’t remember. Also in light of Red Chara guilty, your vote on Chara obviously wasn’t a bad vote. Vax also voted you and Vax did have a very strange Titus read. I just didn’t like your reaction to CB trying to tie him down on it.

I suppose I shouldn’t let emotional considerations affect my reads. I just didn’t want to entertain the notion that Titus would ever be this horrible to me as scum. I tend to assume if someone is really mean to you, they’re more likely to be town but scum!Bunno called me “dumb” in Dung Beetle redux, I lost count how many times. If it actually is Vax/Chara/Titus, only 2/3 of that team deserve my respect for their play in this game. Titus personally attacked me which is totally not okay if she’s actually scum here.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:47 am
by Titus
Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 942, Titus wrote:@Chara, Nancy's post was repulsive.

Re: jjh That's possible and I think that might be what happened to Bell in the Booneytunes game.
In post 944, Titus wrote:
In post 941, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Someone with a functioning beain please explain to me how me and Vax are buddies.
This type of toxicity is why I am voting Nancy.
In post 989, Titus wrote:I really hope Mistyx is town because Nancy's being toxic.

Being scum against her would be a cakewalk.
In post 1005, Titus wrote:
In post 1003, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 995, Titus wrote:
In post 993, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 989, Titus wrote:I really hope Mistyx is town because Nancy's being toxic.

Being scum against her would be a cakewalk.
Now, you’re actually being mean but dw I’m not changing my vote on you. :]
So you think that's mean but saying I'm brainless is fair play?
I said the scumreads on me don’t make sense and you voting me for that was hella gross. I think Gamma actually misread me but no way in hell you did,
No. I voted you for toxicity.
In post 1014, Titus wrote:
In post 1008, Infinity Zero wrote:
In post 996, Titus wrote:
In post 991, Infinity Zero wrote:
In post 984, Titus wrote:If Vax acts the same way, his wagon makeup is the same. That means an early busser who did next to nothing like Bell.
This just doesn’t sound right
This is 100% a position scum can exploit to craft a narrative
And rn Titus seems like the scum doing just that
-Protocol
VCA is all about crafting a narrative.

#facepalm
There’s plenty going into how someone reacts. They can also deliberately react in a certain way to throw people off if they try to do what you’re doing. Your VCA doesn’t have this much lack of nuance. This feels nothing like you in Cinder Blocks.
*shrug*

I hadn't solved most of the game prior to my VCA probably but I don't recall that game.

P.S. I don't move on from toxicity until either one of us flips or I get an apology. I don't put up with that shit. I play to win though.
In post 1031, Titus wrote:
In post 1026, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 992, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 978, Chara wrote:the only townread on me i really like is bob's. it's so earnest and multi-faceted.

Nancy's is in-character but nothing particularly readable, i can't even comment on it's relevance to my scumrange when i don't know her alt, and i'm not asking her to out it.
(also, Nancy, i'd appreciate if you used they/them or it/its for me. <3)
Okay sorry about that. I was concerned that “it/its” sounded disrespectful but if you’re okay with they/them I’ll use that.

Anyway, I sincerely did not mean to insult anyone. I was just legit shocked as to why I was even getting votes after I made it clear I wasn’t tr Vax. I actually thought I might even been the NK but if Titus is scum, it makes sense why I wasn’t.
Ok. I forgive you.
If you’re actually scum here, my apology doesn’t extend to you.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:54 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1378, Titus wrote:Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.
And they’re particularly reprehensible when they come from scum and you really hurt me and if you did that to me as scum, it’s totally not okay.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:56 am
by Raya36
I think where I'm at right now is this (Assuming I'm correct that Chara is scum and Red is town)

Town: Red, Catboi, Infinity Zero, Mistyx
Null/PoE: Titus, Bob, S&M, JJ, Twins
Scum: Chara

For the sake of Mistyx progression, as much as I disagree with her current stance, I don't think it makes much sense from scum

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:59 am
by Mistyx
In post 1378, Titus wrote:Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of alignment. I just want to say that.

Scum is still jjh.
i think vax's reaction to being wagoned over jjh is hardclearing for jjh

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:02 am
by Raya36
That's right. JJ can go to town as well

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:02 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1381, Raya36 wrote:I think where I'm at right now is this (Assuming I'm correct that Chara is scum and Red is town)

Town: Red, Catboi, Infinity Zero, Mistyx
Null/PoE: Titus, Bob, S&M, JJ, Twins
Scum: Chara

For the sake of Mistyx progression, as much as I disagree with her current stance, I don't think it makes much sense from scum
How am I seriously even in your PoE? *mind blown*

And how is Mystix townier than me? Did you forget about those two posts I quoted about Vax and expressed how ridiculous it is to think I make those posts if he’s my buddy?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:07 am
by Mistyx
In post 1383, Raya36 wrote:That's right. JJ can go to town as well
i would also clear twins out of your null list

i think the way vax jumped onto the wagon was not a bus

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:07 am
by Raya36
I don't think Mistyx's stance makes sense to be scum. My worry about you is honestly more paranoia than anything. There's a few other things that I need to think about and expand on first before I can put it into words. Can you show those posts again?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:08 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 941, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 917, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 661, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 608, Raya36 wrote:I'm not happy with the jj or twins wagon. I'd be willing to go back to cat but I don't feel as bad as I did before with this slot.

I'm not sure if this is still a viable wagon or not but I'm not liking Vax. I didn't like the Titus vote. Titus has felt town to me and it felt opportunistic as well. The unvoting for simply posting more is bad too. He next places his vote on Infinity, another slot I light townread and another opportunistic vote. Later he voted the twins as the 5th vote which is again opportunistic. He also gave no reasoning for this vote and seemingly hadn't been caught up. When he switches votes again later he says he doesn't even understand the twins wagon but he'd still be willing to go back to it? The it's Mistyx without any reasoning which again already had a wagon forming and opportunistic. He mentions how little time we have then proceeds with fluffy posts. Then joins the jj wagon, who I light townread, without any reasoning given again.

VOTE: Vax
I’m still not liking Mistyx but not opposed.
In post 727, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 720, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 709, Alisae wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1 . 12
  • Vaxkiller
    ------------ 6 ( jjh927, Catboi, Raya36, unwnd, Infinity Zero, Twins Akari and Mara )
    Twins Akari and Mara
    - 3 ( Chara, Titus, Wellermanbob )
    Chara
    ---------------- 1 ( Mistyx )
    jjh927
    --------------- 1 ( Vaxkiller )
    Mistyx
    --------------- 1 ( Smoke and Mirrors )
    Wellermanbob
    --------- 1 ( Red )
    Catboi
    --------------- 0 ( No One )
    Red
    ------------------ 0 ( No One )
    Titus
    ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Infinity Zero
    -------- 0 ( No One )
    Raya36
    --------------- 0 ( No One )
    unwnd
    ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Smoke and Mirrors
    ---- 0 ( No One )


    Not Voting
    ----------- 0 ( No One )
Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-11 20:01:00)
Vax is at E -1.
And Mistyx and Vax have the worst votes.
Oh look here, I’m shadinf my “buddy”. :roll:
@Raya

And obviously if Chara flips scum, Mistix vote wasn’t bad.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:08 am
by Raya36
In post 1385, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1383, Raya36 wrote:That's right. JJ can go to town as well
i would also clear twins out of your null list

i think the way vax jumped onto the wagon was not a bus
Couldn't it have been distancing with the way Vax left the wagon after they got back?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:11 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1385, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1383, Raya36 wrote:That's right. JJ can go to town as well
i would also clear twins out of your null list

i think the way vax jumped onto the wagon was not a bus
When you’re not talking about anything connected to Vax/Chara, I don’t hate your posts. Like this one for example, I totally agree with - especially if Chara is scum.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:11 am
by Mistyx
In post 1388, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1385, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1383, Raya36 wrote:That's right. JJ can go to town as well
i would also clear twins out of your null list

i think the way vax jumped onto the wagon was not a bus
Couldn't it have been distancing with the way Vax left the wagon after they got back?
i think he just jumped off because he got backlash for the vote and couldn't justify it further

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:12 am
by Mistyx
i also think twins have been individually towny

so

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:12 am
by Raya36
In post 1387, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 941, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 917, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 661, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 608, Raya36 wrote:I'm not happy with the jj or twins wagon. I'd be willing to go back to cat but I don't feel as bad as I did before with this slot.

I'm not sure if this is still a viable wagon or not but I'm not liking Vax. I didn't like the Titus vote. Titus has felt town to me and it felt opportunistic as well. The unvoting for simply posting more is bad too. He next places his vote on Infinity, another slot I light townread and another opportunistic vote. Later he voted the twins as the 5th vote which is again opportunistic. He also gave no reasoning for this vote and seemingly hadn't been caught up. When he switches votes again later he says he doesn't even understand the twins wagon but he'd still be willing to go back to it? The it's Mistyx without any reasoning which again already had a wagon forming and opportunistic. He mentions how little time we have then proceeds with fluffy posts. Then joins the jj wagon, who I light townread, without any reasoning given again.

VOTE: Vax
I’m still not liking Mistyx but not opposed.
In post 727, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 720, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 709, Alisae wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1 . 12
  • Vaxkiller
    ------------ 6 ( jjh927, Catboi, Raya36, unwnd, Infinity Zero, Twins Akari and Mara )
    Twins Akari and Mara
    - 3 ( Chara, Titus, Wellermanbob )
    Chara
    ---------------- 1 ( Mistyx )
    jjh927
    --------------- 1 ( Vaxkiller )
    Mistyx
    --------------- 1 ( Smoke and Mirrors )
    Wellermanbob
    --------- 1 ( Red )
    Catboi
    --------------- 0 ( No One )
    Red
    ------------------ 0 ( No One )
    Titus
    ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Infinity Zero
    -------- 0 ( No One )
    Raya36
    --------------- 0 ( No One )
    unwnd
    ---------------- 0 ( No One )
    Smoke and Mirrors
    ---- 0 ( No One )


    Not Voting
    ----------- 0 ( No One )
Deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-11 20:01:00)
Vax is at E -1.
And Mistyx and Vax have the worst votes.
Oh look here, I’m shadinf my “buddy”. :roll:
@Raya

And obviously if Chara flips scum, Mistix vote wasn’t bad.
There's still a tiny bit of doubt here. Vax didn't have much of a chance at this point so a buddy shading or hardbussing isn't unreasonable

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:13 am
by Raya36
In post 1390, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1388, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1385, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1383, Raya36 wrote:That's right. JJ can go to town as well
i would also clear twins out of your null list

i think the way vax jumped onto the wagon was not a bus
Couldn't it have been distancing with the way Vax left the wagon after they got back?
i think he just jumped off because he got backlash for the vote and couldn't justify it further
Ok that makes sense and has a good chance of being the case

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:13 am
by Raya36
So that leaves Bob, Titus, and maybe S&M

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:14 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1388, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1385, Mistyx wrote:
In post 1383, Raya36 wrote:That's right. JJ can go to town as well
i would also clear twins out of your null list

i think the way vax jumped onto the wagon was not a bus
Couldn't it have been distancing with the way Vax left the wagon after they got back?
In this type of setup with the plurality elim, I think if scum are going to bus, they do it early in the day not late, so they can get towncred but not risk an accidental bus.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:15 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1394, Raya36 wrote:So that leaves Bob, Titus,
and maybe S&M
:facepalm:

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:15 am
by Raya36
In post 1396, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1394, Raya36 wrote:So that leaves Bob, Titus,
and maybe S&M
:facepalm:
Tell me where I'm wrong in 1392

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:16 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 1396, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 1394, Raya36 wrote:So that leaves Bob, Titus,
and maybe S&M
:facepalm:
Apparently, Mistyx isn’t the only one with inexplicable takes if you’re seriously this bad at reading me.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:18 am
by Raya36
Maybe I am bad at reading you but I'm going to need more than you can't possibly be Vax's buddy because you shaded him when he was at E-1 towards the end of the day