Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:32 am
I've scumread koba this entire game and was shut down many times (often by townies).
This is relevant now. My tinfoil hat theory is unfolding as true insight into the nature of the current game.In post 738, Gimli son of Glóin wrote:Hullo! not much to catch up today so let's just get on with it.
Just so we're clear, my current scumread on horsewoman is based off my interpretation of #665 and not because I think horsewoman won't post her reads eventually. I don't like that she felt the need to promise work instead of doing it, but that's minimal in comparison with her thoughts on koba and, now that you and raya mentioned it, I also find her thoughts on raya in this and 666 to be quite troublesome. The townlean is fine of course, but the strength of it seems off somehow and in many directions.In post 721, clidd wrote:Relax, Gimli. She said she will provide reads, so we can wait and evaluate the content, and yes, Dk playstyle is just like that.
Speaking of which, I'll post a theory I have but it's not worth to talk about it further because it's an associative read that's more likely wrong than not, but I think dkkoba and horsewoman have a decent chance of being scum together. koba's push on me for my horsewoman read might be the single most surprising behaviour they took this game, and once they decided to pivot from their tunnel koba said me and horsewoman have to have the same alignment. I thought this was very interesting given my more or less universal townread status, as it could be a play designed to help horsewoman go deep by hard associating her with me as her guarantor if you will. I've seen no actual reasoning to why I must have the same alignment as horsewoman instead of e.g. just being wrong about her being town, so I'm very suspicious about this line of reasoning.
Ha, disagree.In post 1379, Infinity 324 wrote:Except it assumes that scum!koba thinks they have a lot of influence over the gamestate, which is not true even if koba is scum.
I'm glad you hammered the list but the timing was kind of opportunistic considering you were in the middle of a 1v1 with Ahsoka.
I think I'm agreeing with you. It makes sense with the sudden push on Gimli when they were mostly townread earlier. The Koba/clidd theory is interesting too because I could see scum!Koba being bold enough to put themself into the group of 3 with clidd as the miselim option. I'm also still thinking scum could be NM. He's in the larger group which is safer and also the limited pushing on him so far could be telling.In post 1337, Ahsoka wrote:In post 1331, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm what a surprise my solve is still possible now
Can we just elim clidd?
This looks like a partner helping Dkkoba's position in this game because of Dkkoba/Clidd having 1 scum in them.
Dkkoba's posting is indicative of scum who didn't want the list published, but had to anyways. There is no reason for Dkkoba who was the one pushing the list early in the day to be essentially needing to be pushed into the list publish. Every single thing Dkkoba was shading Gimli for coming out of nowhere had already been explained.
My guesses are Gimli/Clidd are the misfade plays for scum.
Dkkoba is going to try and open up me as well here, they were setting themselves up to do that before they voted to publish the list.
I fully agree with this. I do think we were correct in publishing the list and were right that scum didn't want it to be published. I also agree that Koba's play fits into this theory well. They definitely appeared much less enthusiastic about the list as time progressed.In post 1359, Ahsoka wrote:This is exactly what I think happened. I think ScumDkkoba wanted the list initially, but the gamestate changed, which is why they were posting in a way where they said they were okay with the list, but then realized it would damn them. They couldn't change their mind on it or be outed either.In post 1357, Gimli son of Glóin wrote:the mafia was afraid of the list, at least eventually.
Jesus christ we were telling you that gimli was scum from the beginning, but no one fucking listenedIn post 1383, Raya36 wrote:It makes sense with the sudden push on Gimli when they were mostly townread earlier.
I mean I was scum with them before, and I don't think they're playing bad as scum. I don't think they do think they have a lot of influence here.In post 1384, Infinity 324 wrote:Thing is, koba is good at scum and has situational awareness. Thinking they have a lot of influence here, like their pushes on
clidd and gimli d1, shows a lack of situational of awareness which makes them town.
I am voting scumIn post 1392, Infinity 324 wrote:Koba vote scum please