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In post 1290, Yume wrote:I won't vote mastina unless my check on her flubs. Is that clear enough for all of you?

If this is a real claim/proposal, it is incredibly foolish.

This relies on both you and mastina living, AND no interference with your role, in a multiball game with wacky abilities.

It just isn't happening, and frankly the fact that you seem to think it will is highly concerning to me

In post 1371, T-Bone wrote:

In post 1367, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1363, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1358, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote:I think the fact that several players have blinkers on right now is harming the gamestate. This would change after a Mastina elimination, but I still would prefer to vote a scumread of mine today. I don't see too much point in voting Mastina off today, when the likeliest outcome of D2 is MathBlade shooting Mastina.

Again Dusk 2 oe Day 2 dayvig

This means can’t fire until the “Day 3 or Day 4” in the traditional sense

So we do Day 1, then Night 1, then Dusk 1 or something?

This is Dusk 1
“Tomorrow” is Day 1
“Day after tomorrow” is Dusk 2
“Day after day after tomorrow” is Day 2

I don't think you're interpreting this correctly. We only play in thread during the Dusk phases. So tomorrow is Dusk 2.

¤ Day Cycle The game starts in Dusk phase, then changes to night phase, then changes to dawn phase, then changes to noon phase. Most actions are performed at noon or night, eliminations are performed during Dusk and Dawn phases.

I don’t think you are
Dusk -> Night -> Dawn -> Noon

In post 1374, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1263, Scarfmanship wrote:

In post 1259, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1258, Scarfmanship wrote:I accidentally put that in a two line post in which i also address someone else asking me a nonfriendly question?

Mathblade, I...

You tell them they weren’t supposed to do something

How were they supposed to know if any sort of plan without a PT?

By reading my mind. Most people know how to do this, if you have to ask, you're not one of them.

They said most people could read their mind, not that I specifically could.

It’s just a really odd thing to say.

In post 1377, Past Present Future wrote:

In post 1374, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1263, Scarfmanship wrote:

In post 1259, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1258, Scarfmanship wrote:I accidentally put that in a two line post in which i also address someone else asking me a nonfriendly question?

Mathblade, I...

You tell them they weren’t supposed to do something

How were they supposed to know if any sort of plan without a PT?

By reading my mind. Most people know how to do this, if you have to ask, you're not one of them.

They said most people could read their mind, not that I specifically could.

It’s just a really odd thing to say.

It is…oh look who pointed it out “the tunneller” who doesn’t have other reads.

In post 1377, Past Present Future wrote:

In post 1374, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1263, Scarfmanship wrote:

In post 1259, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1258, Scarfmanship wrote:I accidentally put that in a two line post in which i also address someone else asking me a nonfriendly question?

Mathblade, I...

You tell them they weren’t supposed to do something

How were they supposed to know if any sort of plan without a PT?

By reading my mind. Most people know how to do this, if you have to ask, you're not one of them.

They said most people could read their mind, not that I specifically could.

It’s just a really odd thing to say.

I have one explanation: Cultist behaviour

In post 1290, Yume wrote:I won't vote mastina unless my check on her flubs. Is that clear enough for all of you?

In post 1291, Yume wrote:Also

, if my check is blocked, I will assume scum did it and won't vote for her if that happens either

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@RR, how is she not assuming interference?

In post 1376, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1371, T-Bone wrote:

In post 1367, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1363, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1358, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote:I think the fact that several players have blinkers on right now is harming the gamestate. This would change after a Mastina elimination, but I still would prefer to vote a scumread of mine today. I don't see too much point in voting Mastina off today, when the likeliest outcome of D2 is MathBlade shooting Mastina.

Again Dusk 2 oe Day 2 dayvig

This means can’t fire until the “Day 3 or Day 4” in the traditional sense

So we do Day 1, then Night 1, then Dusk 1 or something?

This is Dusk 1
“Tomorrow” is Day 1
“Day after tomorrow” is Dusk 2
“Day after day after tomorrow” is Day 2

I don't think you're interpreting this correctly. We only play in thread during the Dusk phases. So tomorrow is Dusk 2.

¤ Day Cycle The game starts in Dusk phase, then changes to night phase, then changes to dawn phase, then changes to noon phase. Most actions are performed at noon or night, eliminations are performed during Dusk and Dawn phases.

I don’t think you are
Dusk -> Night -> Dawn -> Noon

I get you now. That makes sense.

In post 1378, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1377, Past Present Future wrote:

In post 1374, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1263, Scarfmanship wrote:

In post 1259, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1258, Scarfmanship wrote:I accidentally put that in a two line post in which i also address someone else asking me a nonfriendly question?

Mathblade, I...

You tell them they weren’t supposed to do something

How were they supposed to know if any sort of plan without a PT?

By reading my mind. Most people know how to do this, if you have to ask, you're not one of them.

They said most people could read their mind, not that I specifically could.

It’s just a really odd thing to say.

It is…oh look who pointed it out “the tunneller” who doesn’t have other reads.

Wut

How have I been even remotely tunnelled? I had three votes before this one and did a 180 on one of them?

It’s sarcastic.

I’ve been called a tunneler with no other reads yet I pointed it out.

In post 1381, T-Bone wrote:

In post 1376, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1371, T-Bone wrote:

In post 1367, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1363, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1358, MathBlade wrote:

In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote:I think the fact that several players have blinkers on right now is harming the gamestate. This would change after a Mastina elimination, but I still would prefer to vote a scumread of mine today. I don't see too much point in voting Mastina off today, when the likeliest outcome of D2 is MathBlade shooting Mastina.

Again Dusk 2 oe Day 2 dayvig

This means can’t fire until the “Day 3 or Day 4” in the traditional sense

So we do Day 1, then Night 1, then Dusk 1 or something?

This is Dusk 1
“Tomorrow” is Day 1
“Day after tomorrow” is Dusk 2
“Day after day after tomorrow” is Day 2

I don't think you're interpreting this correctly. We only play in thread during the Dusk phases. So tomorrow is Dusk 2.

¤ Day Cycle The game starts in Dusk phase, then changes to night phase, then changes to dawn phase, then changes to noon phase. Most actions are performed at noon or night, eliminations are performed during Dusk and Dawn phases.

I don’t think you are
Dusk -> Night -> Dawn -> Noon

I get you now. That makes sense.

Yeah hence why I don’t want to assume I survive two nights. Ugh we need new words

I vote discussion and sleep phases

I have to survive two or three sleep phases

In post 1380, Past Present Future wrote:

In post 1290, Yume wrote:I won't vote mastina unless my check on her flubs. Is that clear enough for all of you?

In post 1291, Yume wrote:Also

, if my check is blocked, I will assume scum did it and won't vote for her if that happens either

.

@RR, how is she not assuming interference?

There are more ways to interfere than just blocking. That aside, regardless of whether she has a plan to just interpret a block as an inno (which is... Not how that works, but I digress), the fact that she's publicly announcing this at all means she expects it to be able to go through unchallenged.

Also just gonna say, I don't think scarf is Cult. A touch weird, sure, but the vibes say Town to me.

In post 1385, Radical Rat wrote:

In post 1380, Past Present Future wrote:

In post 1290, Yume wrote:I won't vote mastina unless my check on her flubs. Is that clear enough for all of you?

In post 1291, Yume wrote:Also

, if my check is blocked, I will assume scum did it and won't vote for her if that happens either

.

@RR, how is she not assuming interference?

There are more ways to interfere than just blocking. That aside, regardless of whether she has a plan to just interpret a block as an inno (which is... Not how that works, but I digress), the fact that she's publicly announcing this at all means she expects it to be able to go through unchallenged.

Because that's the way my check works, and if scum interfere with a roleblock (which is a scum ability) more often than not, it means that scum do not want mastina to be inno, which in turn means she is.

Disagree? Give me a case where town roleblocker targeted someone who could clear someone as town.

Okay I did my busy work. If I had to guess Enchant, Mathblade, and then all the Nulls might be too high, and maybe Furtive is too low (but no one has ever engaged me there so I will take your collective silence as approval)

Ask your questions if you have them? I think anyone below null I’d be willing to eliminate but I’d prefer an outcome in my scum lean set. Anyway this exercise helped me visually what I think about the player list better.

In post 1390, T-Bone wrote:Okay I did my busy work. If I had to guess Enchant, Mathblade, and then all the Nulls might be too high, and maybe Furtive is too low (but no one has ever engaged me there so I will take your collective silence as approval)

Ask your questions if you have them? I think anyone below null I’d be willing to eliminate but I’d prefer an outcome in my scum lean set. Anyway this exercise helped me visually what I think about the player list better.

Spoiler: Reads 1.0

Town Lean
Frozen Angel
Nancy and the Nancettes

Null Lean
Radical Rat
Enchant
Proffessotic
Maid Cafe (confirmed in my heart)
MathBlade

Null
Scafmanship
MMR
Bunnyonce
STD

Scum Lean
Mastina
Radja
Furtive
Yume
DDS

MMR and Yume are pretty obvious town is my main note. But yeah I do feel peeved that you've just omgussed me and blamed other people for not 'engaging you'.

I would remove Yume from that willing to eliminate today.

I think her alignment is highly dependent on this Gambit especially in multiball.

I struggle to read her play but based on what she does especially if it’s not on Mastina and she gets a TR/SR somewhere scum can’t expect then that’d go a long way towards proving she’s town. Especially if she’s right on Mastina. But if she’s wrong on Mastina and doesn’t deliver results then I’d argue elim her.

The rest of my reads I either agree with or have a condition where they could be that so no objections

In post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:

In post 1390, T-Bone wrote:Okay I did my busy work. If I had to guess Enchant, Mathblade, and then all the Nulls might be too high, and maybe Furtive is too low (but no one has ever engaged me there so I will take your collective silence as approval)

Ask your questions if you have them? I think anyone below null I’d be willing to eliminate but I’d prefer an outcome in my scum lean set. Anyway this exercise helped me visually what I think about the player list better.

Spoiler: Reads 1.0

Town Lean
Frozen Angel
Nancy and the Nancettes

Null Lean
Radical Rat
Enchant
Proffessotic
Maid Cafe (confirmed in my heart)
MathBlade

Null
Scafmanship
MMR
Bunnyonce
STD

Scum Lean
Mastina
Radja
Furtive
Yume
DDS

MMR and Yume are pretty obvious town is my main note. But yeah I do feel peeved that you've just omgussed me and blamed other people for not 'engaging you'.

I've said what I've said about you...you really don't get a say!

And you won't even do anything about this supposed scumread you have of me that you can't stop sniping about bruh it's fake and we all know it

In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote:I think the fact that several players have blinkers on right now is harming the gamestate. This would change after a Mastina elimination, but I still would prefer to vote a scumread of mine today. I don't see too much point in voting Mastina off today, when the likeliest outcome of D2 is MathBlade shooting Mastina.

Furitive, the two of us are trying to accomplish the same thing. Vote DDS with me.

You too, Yume. I would invite PPF but they have disliked me ever since I said something negative about three word hydras and they took it to mean them. I'm still a little sus about how careful they are about changing their vote, which is part of the reason why I made that taunt. I knew they wouldn't go through with it without more validation.

@maid cafe, @professorxotic: You say the game feels stale. That's because the gamestate is being engineered to feel stale so that everyone feels like their only option is to vote mastina. You are not immune to propaganda. Think about what is happening. We already have multiple PRs with mastina in their crosshairs, plus I am pretty sure I know what role mastina is and I want to see what she claims her actions are.

@bunny, you agree with dds on a kill list. Vote there.
@math, you are the one making the gamestate feel stale by drowning out everyone else's voices and using language that warps the narrative of the game around your focus on mastina. You need only read the posts of the others in the thread to see that what you are doing is antitown, even if you're right about mastina.

@everyone, friendly reminder that everything in mafia is made up, and the points don't matter. Letters are just funny squiggles and you can say or do anything you want.

Now that we're getting somewhere, aren't you glad that I drew attention towards something other than tunnelers?

I have done that several times.

It devolves into people begging me to TR Mastina and I engage them in good faith.

If they stop asking I stop replying.

If they stop towncasing Mastina the subject goes away.

I cannot control other people.

The literal only option is to wait for Mastina to townfirm herself or elim her.

I will not move until either happens.

In post 1395, Scarfmanship wrote:

In post 1354, furtiveglance wrote:I think the fact that several players have blinkers on right now is harming the gamestate. This would change after a Mastina elimination, but I still would prefer to vote a scumread of mine today. I don't see too much point in voting Mastina off today, when the likeliest outcome of D2 is MathBlade shooting Mastina.

Furitive, the two of us are trying to accomplish the same thing. Vote DDS with me.

You too, Yume. I would invite PPF but they have disliked me ever since I said something negative about three word hydras and they took it to mean them. I'm still a little sus about how careful they are about changing their vote, which is part of the reason why I made that taunt. I knew they wouldn't go through with it without more validation.

@maid cafe, @professorxotic: You say the game feels stale. That's because the gamestate is being engineered to feel stale so that everyone feels like their only option is to vote mastina. You are not immune to propaganda. Think about what is happening. We already have multiple PRs with mastina in their crosshairs, plus I am pretty sure I know what role mastina is and I want to see what she claims her actions are.

@bunny, you agree with dds on a kill list. Vote there.
@math, you are the one making the gamestate feel stale by drowning out everyone else's voices and using language that warps the narrative of the game around your focus on mastina. You need only read the posts of the others in the thread to see that what you are doing is antitown, even if you're right about mastina.

@everyone, friendly reminder that everything in mafia is made up, and the points don't matter. Letters are just funny squiggles and you can say or do anything you want.

Now that we're getting somewhere, aren't you glad that I drew attention towards something other than tunnelers?

Hi
If you're town you're on the wrong track
Would you like to discuss anything?

I generally like this energy but I don't like that it's directed at us