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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:15 pm
by catboi
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Vote Count 6.86 Rad (Best Bird, butterflies, Cytosine and Guanine, MalcolmTucker, Rad, BlueBloodedToffee)

4 MalcolmTucker (Cat Scratch Fever, ProfessorDrapion, Mislim Bait, butterchurn)

2 JohnnyFarrar (Roden, Off the Hook)

2 PookyTheMagicalBear (furtiveglance, PookyTheMagicalBear)

Not Voting (Yeet, JohnnyFarrar)

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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:29 pm
by butterflies
I wish that there were some way to determine if T-Bone fakeclaimed protective to save actual doc because not one single neighbour has claimed any pr otherwise. Because if actually true that he did in fact fakeclaim protective than it could be a sign that DNA could be scum - because of the post restriction because Math is the only neighbour to have a confirmed pr and as we know, he was scum.

Not Bell, Yeet/Taly, Luke, Malcolm, Johnny have claimed any prs at all, right? So if I’m right and T-Bone was actually fakeclaiming, it means that my read on DNA would have to be wrong, right?

Like I could obviously be wrong and T-Bone actually is some kind of tpr and DNA is town with a post restriction but it’s just strange to me, that other every single neighbour has claimed no additional aspect to their role.

And while Math did in fact push me in the main thread, he never went as far as trying to drive a miselim on me but he did according to DNA pt, so even if G did incorrectly assume that I’ve been defending Malcolm, according to them Math did try to run me up - even if it was only blatant in their pt, so I should be lockclear to them so I don’t understand how I’m not.

I honestly don’t know what to make of any of it but I do think that the post restriction is probably real. Maybr I’m completely wrong and they are town just like I’ve been saying. \_0_/

@BB can you ask Luke for me if C & G flavour fits with a post restriction? Thanks.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:31 pm
by Rad
I can answer for you here Nancy - The C&G + Math flavor does fit with the post restriction. That was discussed earlier.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:34 pm
by butterflies
In post 13877, Rad wrote:I can answer for you here Nancy - The C&G + Math flavor does fit with the post restriction. That was discussed earlier.
Can you link/quote the post?

I also forgot to mention Milim Bait/Klick - also claimed no additional aspect to his role.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:35 pm
by Rad
I'll see if I can find it.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:39 pm
by Rad
Here's Luke talking about the flavor:
In post 522, Lukewarm wrote:My opinion on the Hydra posting restriction, is that if it is real he is likely in a neighborhood with Sun.

That would give the slot an outlet to talk as much as they waty, and a way to keep communicating after they have run out of words (Jin getting Sun to "translate" for him). We also know that there is at least 2 claimed neighborhoods at this point. Could be with Toog, or could be a 3rd hood.

That being said, I don't really have strong feelings about whether the PR restriction being town or scum indicative. I feel like, if it is real, STD had the idea as a way to represent Jin's flavor of struggling to communicate early on in the show before he learned english, and it likely would have been an idea before he randed the flavor alignments.
Ahh nice Enchant post I noticed when doing this:
In post 523, Enchant wrote:Yep.

Restriction is real. It doesh't change anything alignmentwise.

Btw i am in good mood somehow, so i answer one question directed to me. Probably.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:53 pm
by butterflies
Thanks @RAD, I forgot to take into account that they were also paired with a scum neighbour, maybe that also affects things?
Rad wrote:Here's Luke talking about the flavor:
In post 522, Lukewarm wrote:My opinion on the Hydra posting restriction, is that if it is real he is likely in a neighborhood with Sun.

That would give the slot an outlet to talk as much as they waty, and a way to keep communicating after they have run out of words (Jin getting Sun to "translate" for him). We also know that there is at least 2 claimed neighborhoods at this point. Could be with Toog, or could be a 3rd hood.

That being said, I don't really have strong feelings about whether the PR restriction being town or scum indicative. I feel like, if it is real, STD had the idea as a way to represent Jin's flavor of struggling to communicate early on in the show before he learned english, and it likely would have been an idea before he randed the flavor alignments.
Ahh nice Enchant post I noticed when doing this:
In post 523, Enchant wrote:Yep.

Restriction is real. It doesh't change anything alignmentwise.

Btw i am in good mood somehow, so i answer one question directed to me. Probably.
#10: Sun's And Jin's Deaths On 'Lost' Before crashing on the island, Sun and Jin's relationship was borderline abusive, where Jin kept her locked up in the house as a trophy wife and took away almost all of her freedoms. While on the island they worked through their issues, fell in love, and even became pregnant.
So that’s particularly interesting if Math is Sun and DNA Jin. In my pt, our characters Paolo and Niki are on equal footing I think.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:00 pm
by Rad
I think the alignment is just random. Maybe the restriction is just real here and game integrity was broken and no one cares about that but me. C&G either went scum effort mode to spell out fake corwin convos or they're just town cause there's no reason for corwin/math+c&g to have convos in the pt if both are scum.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:04 pm
by butterflies
If Luke says it all makes sense flavour wise, than I’m probably just way off with the flavour/mech thing and I like most of their ISO.

I guess it makes sense that their pt would be particularly active with the post restriction and if town, could also explain how they got so easily pocketed.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:08 pm
by butterflies
In post 13882, Rad wrote:I think the alignment is just random. Maybe the restriction is just real here and game integrity was broken and no one cares about that but me. C&G either went scum effort mode to spell out fake corwin convos or they're just town cause there's no reason for corwin/math+c&g to have convos in the pt if both are scum.
Right, good point, that paraphrase did look legit to me based on the detail of DNA paraphrase. But Math seemed to mostly push our miselim in their pt and he wasn’t the one who was post restricted, so why? Maybe I’m just totally over thinking this.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:11 pm
by Rad
1 thing that did bother me about c&g corwin summary was when they explained how they got the town read on him, it was really early when corwin offered to communicate their ideas to the thread. Like that's absolutely something I would have no problem suggesting if I was scum corwin there but that gave c&g a town read on him? Ridiculous.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:17 pm
by Rad
In post 9386, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:As for early town read, I can't speak for Guanine, but for me personally, it mostly comes down to post 3. Being willing to help us so early without really having any knowledge of our alignment is a massive leap of faith, and while it's not impossible, I don't think it's the leap of faith scum would make
Here is what I'm referring to.

Couple things about this strike me as odd.

It's super easy to do and probably a scum tell if he doesn't do it.

It's not at all a "leap of faith" because corwin's scum, so he doesn't need to have faith that c&g is town, he knows their alignment. Describing it as a leap of faith that scum wouldn't make doesn't make any sense to me.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:39 pm
by butterflies
Yeah, it nia. But I just think if I were post-restricted and my neighbour offered to help me, it wouldn’t be extremely difficult for me personally to be pocketed by that. I would say that probably makes more sense for RH9 (G) thzn Ircher (C) though, however in Anything uPick, townIrcher! pretty much fell on his sword ironically for post-restricted scum but no hoods were involved in that Idr? There was one large one but don’t remember anymore who was in it.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:47 pm
by Cytosine and Guanine
In post 13871, Best Bird wrote:
In post 13850, MalcolmTucker wrote:Do we think Furtive's push on Pooky comes from scum?
signs point to yes
So, do you think that we should vote furtive at some point?
-Guanine

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:55 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Why does Furtive's push make him scum?

RCE was pretty early and pushed Math at start of D2 so Furtive being scum will need some selling.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:55 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
VOTE: JohnnyFarrar


this crazy train never stops

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:57 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
VOTE: Johnny

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:37 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 13871, Best Bird wrote:
In post 13850, MalcolmTucker wrote:Do we think Furtive's push on Pooky comes from scum?
signs point to yes
Point me to the signs that point to me

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:41 am
by Rad
Scum Johnny doesn't make sense with the tbone Luke kill order, but ok if you guys won't kill me I'll just kill people I think are probably town

VOTE: Johnny

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:53 am
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 13893, Rad wrote:Scum Johnny doesn't make sense with the tbone Luke kill order, but ok if you guys won't kill me I'll just kill people I think are probably town

VOTE: Johnny
WTF is this post?

No! Remove your vote!

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:53 am
by ProfessorDrapion
Johnny is obvious Town.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:55 am
by ProfessorDrapion
Like C&G, RCE and Malcolm can all be wolves but I have paranoia that BB and/or Pooky can be wolf.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:55 am
by ProfessorDrapion
GOD
If Johnny gets ML’ed just kill me tonight mafia.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:56 am
by ProfessorDrapion
I’m done trying to help this town.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:56 am
by ProfessorDrapion
At that point.