Webcomic Wars Mafia: D7- Be Thankful I'm Not The Author

[SerialClergyman]

has no one considered that if the scumgroups are truly equal we're probably dealing with a nightkill immune discontinued scum, and no amount of attempted crosskills will help anyone with that?

I was specifically responding to this theory - that the scumgroups are symmetrical which means we should lynch discontinued because they may still have a NK-immune member.

I think if we were to assume that, which I agree is relatively unlikely but not impossible, we'd have to assume that there was a hitman who could kill through the immunity.

You're correct about using his shots though.

unvote

for discussion.

Hads - do you think rofl is scum? Do you think the teams have equal numbers?

[Sajin]

Actually, now that I think about it, scum will be aiming for each other, won't they? If we assume rofl and empking are both scum of differing factions and that the factions are 3/3, there will be 1 scum of each left in a 4-man lylo. If rofl and emp are on the same team, we'll lose if we lynch both, but that seems unlikely. If we lynch rofl or emp with the plan to lynch the other tomorrow, the other scumteam could do our dirty work for us, but I think that's unlikely for a few reasons I see no pro-town reason to highlight.

So the scum need to take out the scumpartner of rofl/empking so that when they get to lylo they only have to get someone else lynched, not have to worry about who the opposite scum is.

The only exception is Sajin is obv town to me and the scum can't afford to let him into lylo (because town will force someone to hammer Sajin, letting them win if Sajin OR the hammerer is scum), so he'll be taken out sooner than later I think.

Of those alive:

1. Hasdgfas Prob town.
4. Sotty7 (Slicey) possible scum.Sprite?
9. Empking Discontinued scum
15. Head_Honcho possible scum. Sprite?
17. roflcopter Sprite scum
19. Sajin (xRECKONERx) Almost certainly town
24. Tubby216 (ZazieR) possible scum. Discontinued?

That's where I am at the moment. I'd prefer to continue this after the scum has had a few potshots though.

In the meantime, I've been advocating a rofl lynch because I don't believe his claim, his play has been dicey at best and discontinued are more likely to have more members. If anyone wants to argue with any of that let me know, otherwise lets get this done.

Yes. Pointing out the scum in each group to each group is a GOOD thing.

If a sprite wants to come forward with information regarding which discontinued is potentially unnightkillable I will consider lynching them.

Also I think Godfathers are common enough and in a 2 mafia setup it would be unfair to give one mafia a nightkill immunity and not the other one. I do not think the hitman role would HAVE to be similarly copied although that may be true.

[hasdgfas]

Hads - do you think rofl is scum? Do you think the teams have equal numbers?

i just said this yesterday, but I guess I'll say it again. I think they're equally numbered. I'm not sure about rofl yet, he and HH are my 2 choices for fourth slot.

[SerialClergyman]

The question is which one should town weaken? Sprite needs another hit I think. Vote: Rofl

So if you think it's likely that there's a NK-immune discontinued, why are you voting likely sprite?

Sorry hasdgfas - I should have been more vigilant in checking. I thought that the town were pretty much sold on both Empking and rofl.

[SerialClergyman]

(chuckshot, beaversticked), black magic'd, sarcasm'd are discontinued, with the first two apparently both belonging to korlash

Hold on - why assume that chuckshot and beaversticked were two seperate kill methds for the same person?

[roflcopter]

(chuckshot, beaversticked), black magic'd, sarcasm'd are discontinued, with the first two apparently both belonging to korlash

Hold on - why assume that chuckshot and beaversticked were two seperate kill methds for the same person?

its either that or there are four members of the discontinued team, something i find unlikely (although the desperation with which empking seems to want a non-discontinued lynch today does lend some disturbing credence to this theory, considering that even when i'm lynched today he's probably lynched tomorrow regardless of my flip).

its also an assumption i made that there would be a difference in kill method when korlash chose to use his hitman ability as compared to when he simply performed a normal mafia kill.

[SerialClergyman]

Both of those kills were on a known and outed power role (one doc, one cop). I suppose it's possible that he could have not used the hitman function for the doc.

In order to think it's the same person you'd have to a) think there's different flavour for the 1 person, b) think the Korlash used his hitman ability for only 1 of his 2 kills.

In order to think it's different people, you'd have to think there are 4 discontinued scum.

I think the former is more likely on balance, but in terms of the next lynch I'm getting swayed towards lynching Emp.

[roflcopter]

its certainly the only reasonable conclusion to assume that he used the protection breaking hitman power to kill the claimed cop when no other power roles were revealed in the setup and his own role would indicate that there was something out there to mess with a normal mafia kill. whether or not he would use it again on the doc is purely speculative, but given the different kill types i'd say he chose not to, since the doc presumably couldn't self-protect (and he had no reason at that point to think he would be roleblocked or even know if there was any chance of being roleblocked in the setup)

[roflcopter]

the better safe than sorry route here, however, is to assume a worst case scenario that has the four different kill types belonging to four different discontinued scum. if thats the case we absolutely need to be lynching empking today. which is of course what i've been advocating all along. the fact that i'll be able to either get some new information via roleblock or draw a nightkill to end this nightmare is just gravy.

[SerialClergyman]

See, it's that bullshit that gives you away as scum, rofl. You can't claim your attacks against empking had anything to do with a worst case scenario because you have NEVER made any mention about the better safe than sorry 4 kill types until AFTER I raised it. In fact, I raised it while DISAGREEING with your reasoning that said the first two belonged to korlash.

The only consideration I'm making is which scumbucket is it more worthwhile to lynch first.

[roflcopter]

even if you are convinced i am sprite mafia, empking is the better lynch because 1) dead nk-immune sprite/no dead nk-immune discontinued, 2) four different kill types sourced to discontinued, 3) i'll probably get nightkilled and taken off your hands anyway, 4) if i don't i'll have a roleblock to work with which can only interfere with scum kills at this point

it should be a no brainer

[Empking]

Even if you're convinced I am discontinued ROFL is a better lynch because 1) Sprite clearly has three living players, 2) I clearly think that Dis only has two living members 3) I'll probably get night killed 4) ROFL is more likely to be a power role.

[roflcopter]

1. Hasdgfas - Sprite
4. Sotty7 (Slicey) -Sprite
15. Head_Honcho - Dis
17. roflcopter -Sprite
24. Tubby216 (ZazieR) - Dis

Tubby and ROFL are obv-scum buddies.

The "The game's dead and I want a ROFL lynch but I'm not going to hammer him for no good reason" thing. Plus even after that ROFL is claioming that he's

my

scum buddy and even if you don't have the information (ThatI'm pro-town) that I have, that's clearly not true.

Sooty; Since you're probably not scum, can you reread the game and vote and ROFL?

there's a major disconnect between these three posts as empking just spouts whatever is most convenient at any given moment

Even if you're convinced I am discontinued ROFL is a better lynch because 1) Sprite clearly has three living players, 2) I clearly think that Dis only has two living members 3) I'll probably get night killed 4) ROFL is more likely to be a power role.

once again you don't provide ONE SINGLE IOTA of evidence to back up your claims aside from the use of hyperbole

[Empking]

1. Hasdgfas - Sprite
4. Sotty7 (Slicey) -Sprite
15. Head_Honcho - Dis
17. roflcopter -Sprite
24. Tubby216 (ZazieR) - Dis

Tubby and ROFL are obv-scum buddies.

The "The game's dead and I want a ROFL lynch but I'm not going to hammer him for no good reason" thing. Plus even after that ROFL is claioming that he's

my

scum buddy and even if you don't have the information (ThatI'm pro-town) that I have, that's clearly not true.

Sooty; Since you're probably not scum, can you reread the game and vote and ROFL?

there's a major disconnect between these three posts as empking just spouts whatever is most convenient at any given moment

Wow that's incredible I changed my mind about two lurkers slightly when new information came to light.

[roflcopter]

o rly? what new evidence made you suddenly decide that sotty wasn't sprite? the fact that you desperately needed her vote? and likewise, you recast tubby the instant he didn't vote the way you wanted.

also, respond to this:

Even if you're convinced I am discontinued ROFL is a better lynch because 1) Sprite clearly has three living players, 2) I clearly think that Dis only has two living members 3) I'll probably get night killed 4) ROFL is more likely to be a power role.

once again you don't provide ONE SINGLE IOTA of evidence to back up your claims aside from the use of hyperbole

[roflcopter]

MOD: PRODS PLS. SRSLY.

[Empking]

o rly? what new evidence made you suddenly decide that sotty wasn't sprite? the fact that you desperately needed her vote? and likewise, you recast tubby the instant he didn't vote the way you wanted.

Sotty wasn't spire because Has was more likely Sprite than her and Tubby became pretty clearly sprite.

I don't see how you could be arguing in good faith that the Sotty descision was suddenly consisdering it was posted straight after I pointed out how Tubby was clearly one of your partners.

[tubby216]

rofl is most certianly sprite, should just simply be lynched now

[roflcopter]

EMP STOP IGNORING HALF OF WHAT I SAY TO YOU, PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR YOUR ASSERTIONS:

Even if you're convinced I am discontinued ROFL is a better lynch because 1) Sprite clearly has three living players, 2) I clearly think that Dis only has two living members 3) I'll probably get night killed 4) ROFL is more likely to be a power role.

once again you don't provide ONE SINGLE IOTA of evidence to back up your claims aside from the use of hyperbole

[roflcopter]

oh hi tubby how nice of you to join us

[roflcopter]

tubby do you think empking is scum?

tubby have you read this game?

[tubby216]

oh hi tubby how nice of you to join us

you're welcome now stop whining and moaning you are scum has been caught. learn to deal with it and accept it.

[roflcopter]

tubby do you think empking is scum?

tubby have you read this game?

[tubby216]

tubby do you think empking is scum?

tubby have you read this game?

yes, i have read it,

emp is more than likely scum.

i think there are far more scum left in this game then pure townies. now i think its at the point where we have to lynch the correct scum team and hope for cross kill in order for town to win

[roflcopter]

tubby, explain why you think i am sprite

then explain why you think sprite is the correct lynch in this case