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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:18 pm
by populartajo
Flavour Analysis wrote:@Tajo: Why did you offer Z a 50% chance of protection? (I ask because he was suspicious to me)

it was very likely that after the exchange with grey that he was very likely town, there was basically no other player that was considered town...

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:18 pm
by Seacore
Awesome. Who got the investigation power last night?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:19 pm
by populartajo
Amrun wrote:So you do both each night?

no, i pick one


Amrun wrote:Fullclaiming involves your freaking targets, btw.

i already did:
night 1, night 2: ice
night 3: zelink

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:19 pm
by Amrun
Why ice?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:20 pm
by populartajo
i can give cop powers to someone tonight and proove my ability

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:20 pm
by populartajo
Amrun wrote:Why ice?

I already said that.

ARE YOU LIKE READING THE GAME?

"he was the town read less likely to be nked"

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:20 pm
by Cirno
>Who got the investigation power last night?
>Who got the investigation power last night?
>Who got the investigation power last night?
>Who got the investigation power last night?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:22 pm
by Amrun
No, he said he can only grant one a night.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:24 pm
by populartajo
Ill telll you something since Im going to bed and I wouldnt like to be lynched with no final word:

Greyice never had time to claim he was being targetted by an inventor but HIS INVESTIGATIONS ARE TRUE.

I am an inventor, CKD is a fucking sk, DO NOT let him get away with "BUT THE CHANCES TWO PEOPLE TARGETTED ZELINK WERE LOW" BS in case I get lynched.

PEACE.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:25 pm
by Cirno
>No, he said he can only grant one a night.
You know, I actually stopped myself from double-checking that before I posted.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:26 pm
by Flavour Analysis
Hmmm, Cirno makes a good point. GI's 'cop claim' seemed more like a test then just "I received two abilities blah blah blah". After seeing him flip vanilla town we'd go "Oh so he lied" and we'd just take his 'investigations' for granted. Why would Gi want that? Why wouldn't he have been more clear?

Now Z apparently dieing while ALSO receiving a half protection is unlucky.

This seems too convenient.

So an SK would want to get rid of town or scum, Tajo?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:29 pm
by Seacore
populartajo wrote:
Greyice never had time to claim he was being targetted by an inventor but HIS INVESTIGATIONS ARE TRUE.



Really?

GreyIce posted over 20 times in the hour after he was lynched.

His first post was this

GreyICE wrote:Congrats, you morons just lynched
the town cop.


I investigated Amrun and Seacore, they're both town.

Elvis Knits is obvious scum. Look at her between Silavor and me. She threw a hissy fit day 1 and got town lynched over objections, and everyone got an instant town read on her despite her arguments being terrible. So day 3 she does the same fucking thing.

Llamarble is still scum. Sorry dude, you ain't that bad.

Vezok and DK both need to die.

Moron quotient in this thread is enormous.


Town Cop.

Not somebody who got investigative powers. But an actual role. Now I believe he was gambiting, but what about this suggests in inopportunity to actually claim what happened?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:33 pm
by populartajo
When he claimed he was already lynched so instead of claiming an inventor targetted him, I guess his last play was to claim town cop to protect the inventor.

In what gambitting scenario does Seacoretown make sense if you consider ALL HIS PREVIOUS POSTS?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:35 pm
by Cirno
But he didn't actually have to name the inventor.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:39 pm
by Flavour Analysis
Cirno is right. He could just say he received two 1 shot investigations from the mod and we wouldn't know why he got it.

Now, why did you pick a protection over another investigation?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:39 pm
by populartajo
im not going to play the why ice did what he did

as I said, do whatever the hell you want

just lynch ckd after flip.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:54 pm
by Flavour Analysis
Yeah I'm not moving off the wagon. I don't see your claim lining up well.

Before anything big happens I want CKD to answer why he didn't wait for the rest of the town to claim.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:55 pm
by Calcifer
So, to get this straight: tajo is an inventor who can give a 50% cop power, or who has a 50% chance of protecting someone? In other words, he's more of a 50% inventor that gives cop powers mingled with a faith healer? Sorry, not buying it.

Seacore, why are you refusing to take a position on Cirno? Is it really that big of a deal?

Cirno, why do you think Ckd sk would pull a gambit like that?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:59 pm
by Calcifer
tajo, are you willing to lurk for 72 hours so ckd can shoot you?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:02 pm
by Seacore
I took a position on Cirno, if you're not going to read the game, it's not my problem.

But yeah, I'm buying the claim less and less. Also, Tajo seems to be suggesting that GreyIce knew he was the inventor, what inventor works that way?

populartajo wrote:When he claimed he was already lynched so instead of claiming an inventor targetted him, I guess his last play was to claim town cop to protect the inventor.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:02 pm
by Llamarble
Having fallen for the same gambit myself as scum, and having been alarmed by Tajo before, I am pretty convinced he's scum.
Also yeah Grey would have been more specific in case Tajo died or wasn't believed.

Tajo, if you're town then lurk so CKD can shoot you. If he doesn't shoot he's scum and we lynch him.
If he does shoot you and you flip town we lynch him and save a lynch because odd number happiness.
OK?

Also Amrun is still scum with Tajo, though I should go back and make sure.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:06 pm
by Flavour Analysis
Llama, two things.

1. Where have you fallen for a similar gambit, and how is it similar to here?
2. How has Tajo alarmed you of his scumminess?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:11 pm
by Llamarble
GreyICE claimed watcher in multiple personality mafia. He said 3 people targeted the killed player and asked for claims.
I, having delivered the kill, claimed possibly useless doctor and admitted to targeting him.
GOD that game was an ass whooping.

I just haven't really found Tajo town and that's been worrisome to me.
I guess I could go into detail but I don't remember exactly what it was at the moment.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:12 pm
by Llamarble
(GreyICE was fakeclaiming watcher btw)
But I think all watcher claims should be done like this simply to make the gambit more powerful and to take advantage of scum trying to outguess and lying about targeting.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:25 pm
by Calcifer
Vote: Seacore


Your last comments on Cirno were your ISO #34 and ISO #35, and you fencesat even that. Getting a read should not be like pulling teeth, so put on your big boy pants and dedicate yourself to a read and explain it.