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↑ kuribo wrote:Zdenek, barring Jason as scum is 100% mod confirmed town

Whats the connection between Jason and Zdenek?

Zdenek msg'd me last night.

: Why kuribo over CDB?

Eh, think that kuribo's slot looks worse.

↑ Benmage wrote:

↑ kuribo wrote:here you go, have fun reading my meta

People ought to take a look at Catch-22.
1. He's as spammy there as he is here.
2. He's arrogant, calls himself town, yells at anyone who suggests otherwise... calls everyone an idiot.
3. *******Note post 620 where he tries to do a ME OR HIM move with Slaandar. (sounding familiar?)
4. The point. Don't let his AtE antics change that scummy slots read. Without me forcing real content out of kuribo he's content to do nothing but belittle.

I'm at fucking Jury Duty.. FML.

you're conveniently ignoring the many town games where I did the exact same thing, and the fact that I specifically did that in catch-22 to play to my town meta

spamming and murderous rage isn't an alignment tell for me, it's null

Weather Mafia II- I had the most posts of anyone and almost got force replaced for screaming at UberNinja
Revolution Mafia- Second only behind Llamarble, caused MattP to flip his lid by invoking the Holocaust
Gaben Mafia- Second most posts, screamed at Sir Arthur Dayne and Umbrage
Quack Mafia- Had the fifth most number of posts despite being in the game for about 1 1/2 game days, replaced out at the request of the other players.
Aftermath Mafia Most posts, despite dying Night 3. Was called scummy by the scum team for my rage.

So, by all means, Ben, take your half-ass meta assessment and stick them sideways in your half ass.

↑ Benmage wrote:

↑ kuribo wrote:Zdenek, barring Jason as scum is 100% mod confirmed town

Whats the connection between Jason and Zdenek?

Zdenek msg'd me last night.

shit, you're right, my bad

and the me or him with Slandaar was more about the fact that people were threatening to replace out because of my behavior (and Glork and Slandaar actually did)

not to mention I legitimately don't like Slandaar

↑ kuribo wrote:
spamming and murderous rage isn't an alignment tell for me,

it's null

That's my point. I didn't want people, less familiar with you, writing your slot off because of the flurry of posting, and "rage".

no, you posted acting as if it's a scum tell, when it's not

I freely admit that I'm aware enough of my meta to manipulate it. But your "look at how he played in this one game" is ridiculous. Sure, I emulated my town style in Catch-22. Who the fuck wouldn't as scum? I also powerfucked the busses on my own scumteam and drove them into the ground in Catch-22. But in Gay Mafia, I buddied my scumteam all game, and even counterclaimed masons with my partner. In Catch-22, I buddied the vig, but in WWE Attitude Mafia, I tried to get him lynched. Hell, I even claimed bulletproof in back-to-back scumgames, figuring no one would do the same shit twice.

maybe I'm just annoyed at the fact that if I had known that fucking Downs baby petapan held the slot before Dan, I would have never replaced in

I hate replacing idiots, it's why I don't replace Elmo anymore

Dan probably did the slot more harm than peta when you look at wagons, and either way I don't see the point in blaming past slot-users repeatedly like this. I take it you're mad that people are voting you mostly because of ~*~the slot~*~? So... what do you make of that? Are they in the wrong? Are they scum? It kind of goes nowhere like what I pointed out earlier. You said you didn't like my post but that's it and the whole 1v1 thing stopped. It doesn't look like you're really trying to figure out if the people voting you For The Wrong Reasons Aka Petapan And Friends are scum or just wrong and instead you're just... pointing it out again and again.

holy shit, it's almost like I bitch endlessly with little regard as to whether it's providing content. probably because part of me doesn't enjoy playing mafia

hell, I haven't even wished I was a dayvig yet


fuck i wish i was a dayvig


BT, they can't ALL be scum, obviously. As I've pointed out, at least one of my strongest town reads is on the wagon.

I need to get my head in the game, I'm probably missing something critical and the scum's probably just watching me and ben tear into each other


fuck, it's probably someone I'm ignoring like Cerulean or Pless

Hi. Don't prod me.

I've been rereading, trying to find something reasonable to talk about. I still think that CDB is probably scum, and I don't really understand why sottyrulez is trying to clear themselves based on the words of a traitor. Will try ti have something better soon.

Since we're happy with the CDB wagon (and have actually more or less resigned ourselves to the fact there won't be a meaningful SAD wagon today), we decided to have a second look at some of our weaker reads.



While there isn't anything to look at from ZONEACE yet, the slot inherited the weak town read we had on SafetyDance. This read was based on our impression that Safety's annoyance with Arthur's Roleplaying early on seemed genuine and townish. Further, given Safety's apparent lack of experience with Faraday-modded games, the reasoning he gives to suspect TGAH's claim on 1002 struck us both as more likely to come from town (especially given the later gloating "see, I was right!" in 1129). Obviously the reasoning isn't actually correct, but we can see a town!SafetyDance believing it.

Zar also got a townish impression of SD's attempts to logically analyze the NK in 1127, He thinks that scum wouldn't want to tie themselves to the kill at all, even if were some ploy to mislead.

That said, this remains a very weak town-read. Interested in seeing more from Zoneace as soon as possible.



Probably should strengthen our town-read on camn.

Don't think absta would have pushed for her in the way he did if she's scum with him. Don't think she'd respond by trying to get a counter-wagon going on him (or, rather, if she did she'd have done so earlier, I think?).

In general, we also feel that scum would work harder to tie their reads into other peoples' thoughts and not make such a point of either pushing unpopular or alternate wagons or coming up with new reasons to suspect people (case in point, her CDB post in 1387).



BabySpice was a (weak) town-read, though reading back I can't remember why . Interesting to note that she never gave a read on absta.

Trying not to read too much into the fact she replaced out while remaining active in other games (Zar says BabySpice tends to lurk hard as scum).

Already went into why we didn't like Kise's first few replacement posts. Rather than talking about the claims or the popular wagons, he started FoSing people that weren't really suspected and were in no danger of being lynched. Very easy way to avoid accusations of lurking while not saying anything that really matters.

And he's been essentially awol all of day 2. When he first replaced in, he said he'd be in "active lurk mode" until he got his new laptop. According to 1140, that new laptop arrived on Sunday. And yet his activity hasn't improved at all. He's still just coasting.

Not sure if the slot belongs in the null tier or the weak-scum tier, but it's not great either way.

↑ ChannelDelibird wrote:Pless: your thoughts?

Don't really know what you expect us to say. Of course reads will change over the course of a game. That natural. But your read on DV doesn't seem to have changed naturally. You went from leaning scum on DV as late as 311 to town-reading him in 501. In fact, though you expressed some more doubt at the time, he's now one of your top town reads. And all seemingly because of that one post, which we don't think feels very townish and which you don't want to deeply analyse. What's "natural" about that?

Have you given any other reasons to town-read DV? Do you have any?

Colour us unconvinced.

(If you wanted us to comment on the game having "too many walls", well. You're wrong? Game could do with a few more walls and far fewer pointless one-liners.)

Pless - how many of these people do you think are town?

kuribo
Kise
JasonT1981
ChannelDelibird

↑ Benmage wrote:

↑ camn wrote:

↑ kuribo wrote:she's either SK or town, her interaction with absta would require incredibly ballsy bussing

I thought I mentioned it- there is no limit to my ability to buss.

What's the point of this?

Must I tell you?

There's a post where Absta said that he had a town read on Petapan. I know that it's wifomy, but I think he's probably gunning for town-cred on peta's, now Kuribo's, flip rather than trying to protect a buddy there.

↑ Zdenek wrote:There's a post where Absta said that he had a town read on Petapan. I know that it's wifomy, but I think he's probably gunning for town-cred on peta's, now Kuribo's, flip rather than trying to protect a buddy there.

↑ Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Absta's interactions:

Peta's slot is slowly leaning scum b/c 288.

[snip]

Absta apparently changed his stance about peta in 432 to "town" from previously "prob scum" in 288, with no coherent transition.

He then changed his stance AGAIN on peta in 437, with no coherent flow of logic

you guys are forgetting that if they didn't know there was a traitor yet, it's entirely possible they thought they were in multiball on day 1

SAD if you could flip four people right now, who would they be?

↑ Zdenek wrote:SAD if you could flip four people right now, who would they be?

This isn't really my SUSPECT list, though some do overlap.

Jason
kuribo
Whoever replaced SD
Camn

Damn had to cut out deas.

↑ Zdenek wrote:Pless - how many of these people do you think are town?

kuribo
Kise
JasonT1981
ChannelDelibird

Well, we're both confident on Jason being town at this point. We don't have a town read on any of the other three. But I don't think we're good to have pinned the scumteam with the other three, so idk at least one should be scummy town? :shrug:

If I had to sort them by strength of our scum reads it'd be CDB > kuribo > Kise, though, in case our earlier posts didn't make that clear.

(Why do we have to guess though? I mean, what was the point of this question?)

~ Zar.

↑ Plessiezarus wrote:But I don't think we're that good to have pinned the scumteam with the other three, so idk at least one should be scummy town?

How many scum are left?

I'm assuming we'd have four with a traitor? idk?

~.Zar