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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:17 am
by Malakittens
Ninjas are not a town aligned role.

Vote: Buld

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:19 am
by Malakittens
Wait.

Why did you want to lynch sd if you role copped him?

UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:21 am
by Malakittens
Also why on earth would there be TWO information roles on the side of town?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:23 am
by buldermar
In post 1399, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 1397, buldermar wrote:
In post 1395, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:That was sarcasm. It was obvious enough for anyone other than you.
"Originally I wanted you to claim to see who you would popcorn, but I realized that it was redundant with the T->S list."

Was this really sarcasm?
Oh, not that.
orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Yes because ninja can be a town-aligned role.
This was sarcasm.

Oh no, I'm not making personal attacks. I'm just saying that you would question it because you're, y'know, scum.
buldermar wrote:It says on the MafiaWiki that ninja's can be town aligned. You claimed to not know about the role before your supposed role investigation. So where exactly did you read about it, seing that it couldn't have been on the MafiaWiki? You're so full of shit, lol
Ninjas are a
killing
role.

Anyways

Ninja is not necessarily aligned against the Town, but that's what happens in practice.
Alignment:
Anti-Town

And the person I asked about ninjas said she never saw a town-aligned ninja, ever.

So uh yeah. bye
So, if that quote wasn't sarcasm, and if you actually did believe ninja's could only be scum-aligned, why would the T->S list mean anything at all? It couldn't have.

You were making a personal attack, and I'm not going to discuss that.

Ninja's can according to the MafiaWiki be town-aligned. You said you didn't know about the role, so where did you read about it? (Oh, you asked a person and didn't think of reading about the role on MafiaWiki? Right lol) If it was MafiaWiki, you would know that it could be town-aligned, but you conveniently claim not to know now because you realize that you're confirmed scum by virtue of knowing (as previously explained).

Could you possibly backpedal more? I caught you in a slip and you're trying to work your way out of it by insisting that you
asked a person who said they were never town-aligned, and never bothered to confirm that statement on MafiaWiki
.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:24 am
by buldermar
In post 1400, Malakittens wrote:Ninjas are not a town aligned role.

Vote: Buld
They can be according to MafiaWiki, which is what matters since it proves that orc is scum.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:25 am
by buldermar
In post 1402, Malakittens wrote:Also why on earth would there be TWO information roles on the side of town?
Oh and this too I suppose.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:26 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 1402, Malakittens wrote:Also why on earth would there be TWO information roles on the side of town?
Remember what happened last time we did setup spec and I swore never to do that again

And probably because last scum is a PR. idk.
Malakittens wrote:Wait.

Why did you want to lynch sd if you role copped him?

UNVOTE:
Because the knowledge that SD is a neighbor isn't alignment indicative. Scum neighbors and town neighbors both exist.

Pedit: buld just give up man

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:26 am
by buldermar
A Ninja is a role or role modifier such that the Ninja will never be seen as targeting anyone by a Tracker, Watcher, or other investigative role along these lines. It has been likened to the Tracker/Watcher equivalent to Godfather.
Ninja is not necessarily aligned against the Town
, but that's what happens in practice.

This is why orc is now insisting that he didn't read about the role on MafiaWiki.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:28 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
I did read about the role on MW. Where did you get that otherwise?

Oh and watch this.

A Ninja is a role or role modifier such that the Ninja will never be seen as targeting anyone by a Tracker, Watcher, or other investigative role along these lines. It has been likened to the Tracker/Watcher equivalent to Godfather.
Ninja is not necessarily aligned against the Town,
but that's what happens in practice.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:28 am
by buldermar
In post 1406, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Pedit: buld just give up man
This is how you're responding to being caught in a lie? I hope town will carefully read and understand how you can't be town, since you'll obviously not admit to it.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:30 am
by buldermar
In post 1408, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I did read about the role on MW. Where did you get that otherwise?

Oh and watch this.

A Ninja is a role or role modifier such that the Ninja will never be seen as targeting anyone by a Tracker, Watcher, or other investigative role along these lines. It has been likened to the Tracker/Watcher equivalent to Godfather.
Ninja is not necessarily aligned against the Town,
but that's what happens in practice.
Oh now you did read about the role on MW? So why did you not answer that initially but instead insisted that you asked a friend about it?

It doesn't matter that it's an anti-town role if it's still town-aligned. The argument is that you'd have asked me to claim when you know that it is possible for town to be a ninja. You have just admitted to have read about the role on MW where it clearly states that it can be town-aligned, yet you didn't wait for my claim. You're so full of shit.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:32 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
I did both

Just stop you're embarrassing yourself

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:36 am
by buldermar
Oh cool - now that you have finally admitted to having read the wiki, the only thing left to do is to hope that town is actually capable of understanding that you by knowing that the role can be town-aligned would have waited for my claim had you been town.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:19 am
by SafetyDance
Will be brief, because I will have to think about it a bit more in-depth later but quickly:

Mala why haven't you claimed?

Orc, why didn't you wait till all claims? Did you breadcrumb at all apart from that one
post
word? Why did you quick hammer Lurker when bulder said he was going to do it?

Bulder, apart from your AtE, is there anything specific you want us to read that proves your town?

This town consists of a
Miller
and Watcher. It is known.

Personally, I think all this should have waited till ALL claims came out. Pleased though that it is orc v bulder though, getting my ITYS in early.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:20 am
by SafetyDance
I'm VT

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:30 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Re SD: It doesn't even matter at this point. I have all the information necessary to make the right lynches. All that remains is convincing you guys to do the same. No I did not have any further crumbs, but the speed at which I came out with you being a neighbor should be definitive. That being said, why exactly are you claiming VT when your role is actually a neighbor?

I don't know. The two are effectively the same, but that sort of makes me feel like you are scum that doesn't want to say their actual role and going with the run-of-the-mill fakeclaim.

Actually guys don't hammer buldermar just yet. I need to figure out who it is between SD and Pitoli.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:31 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Nah I'm overthinking this. SD/Buld can't be a team. Still pitoli.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:32 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Also: I do NOT want mala to claim.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:43 am
by buldermar
In post 1413, SafetyDance wrote:Bulder, apart from your AtE, is there anything specific you want us to read that proves your town?
Where did I appeal to emotion?

Aside from my role PM I don't think there is anything that definitely proves that I'm town. Post 1388 is important. If you understand it, you'll know that orc must be scum and that I must be town as a consequence of him being scum.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:43 am
by buldermar
In post 1414, SafetyDance wrote:I'm VT
This is weird.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:45 am
by buldermar
In post 1415, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Actually guys don't hammer buldermar just yet. I need to figure out who it is between SD and Pitoli.
Yeah nice try, but you're the one getting lynched, not me.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:47 am
by buldermar
In post 1417, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also: I do NOT want mala to claim.
Please do explain this.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:48 am
by buldermar
You remind me of Majiffy. He also often acts as if he figured out the entire game when he's scum and wants a mislynch to happen. I guess at this point you may as well.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:50 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
Mala claims at 3p lylo. I'm not explaining squat to scum.

You go today, Pitoli tomorrow.

Byebye, see you in postgame.

Pedit: Yeah but 1). I actually have the game figured out and 2). I'm not scum

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:51 am
by buldermar
It annoys me a bit that I didn't realize that the "this is a buldermar night-kill" thing meant you're scum before now. I just thought you were being weird for no good reason, but it adds up now.