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In post 1397, Desperado wrote:And your

[Rach]

reads post is just awful. Not only do you STILL not have any legitimate reads, your first legitimate vote is blatantly passing the buck off on mollie and Jiffy. You don't even think Andy is scum, but because mollie/Jiffy are often right when they are town, you are going to sheep them?

I counted 6 reads that were unspecified as town/scum, or were null, and almost every read, except I think BatB and NS was a "lean" or "weak" read of a type. NS doesn't count either since he's an Innocent Child and mod confirmed.

But yeah, I'm totally okay with lynching her after that reads post. That coupled with every other post she's made is awful.

Look again I have Andy as leaning scum

Seriously Des what will you do if I flip town? Who will you look at then?

I admitted my reads suck, but it is early. A lot of the pages here really are more noise than signal which means it takes a while to sort out the wheat from the chaff duh.

I rely a lot on Meta especially if I have not played a bunch of games with someone, which is why I was asking for links so I can skim through and see if I can get a better handle on some of the other players.

In post 1401, RachMarie wrote:Look again I have Andy as leaning scum

Seriously Des what will you do

if

I flip town? Who will you look at then?

I admitted my reads suck, but it is early. A lot of the pages here really are more noise than signal which means it takes a while to sort out the wheat from the chaff duh.

I rely a lot on Meta especially if I have not played a bunch of games with someone, which is why I was asking for links so I can skim through and see if I can get a better handle on some of the other players.

You have him as leaning scum but then you ask for him to provide meta (that's already been provided)

So were you just not going to read those games or what? I took that to mean your interpretation was still open.

@bolded slipslipslipslip

But seriously if you flip town I'll do the same thing I did every other time I mislynched town--forget about it and keep looking for scum.

In post 1401, RachMarie wrote:Look again I have Andy as leaning scum

And 6 reads that are displaying no alignment or are null. And every player except for BatB as some weak ass read.

I admitted my reads suck, but it is early. A lot of the pages here really are more noise than signal which means it takes a while to sort out the wheat from the chaff duh.

I rely a lot on Meta especially if I have not played a bunch of games with someone, which is why I was asking for links so I can skim through and see if I can get a better handle on some of the other players.

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So... You have gathered nothing, because there's apparently very little in the form of information involved in the past 1400 posts. Yeah... no. We've all been able to make cases, why aren't you able to?

Furthermore, if you rely so much on meta that you can't make a read without some meta, then you really need to learn how to scumhunt. Newsflash: I haven't played with probably at least half of the player's list, and I haven't used meta for any of those players except for Andy.

PEDIT: And 1402 too.

Because I had some confusion on the hydrae? Hello do you know how many games I have played in with varying heads of the hydrae in different combinations?

GIF has a few
Cabd has a few
fery has a few
Syr has a few
So yeah had some confusion....

That does not make me scum. oh and BTW there Z dude.... scum is far more likely to read things carefully over scum. Feel free to check out the first Xeno game where I was scum. here a link for you http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=28572

In post 1404, RachMarie wrote:Because I had some confusion on the hydrae? Hello do you know how many games I have played in with varying heads of the hydrae in different combinations?

GIF has a few
Cabd has a few
fery has a few
Syr has a few
So yeah had some confusion....

Didn't you address the heads of the hydrae inside the game, too?

That does not make me scum. oh and BTW there Z dude.... scum is far more likely to read things carefully over scum. Feel free to check out the first Xeno game where I was scum. here a link for you http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=28572

False. I read things more carefully as town than scum. As scum I generally look for crumbing, or merely make my reads based off of posts that I do not go quite as in-depth with. As town, I am playing as I am, which is looking at the posts, and picking apart posts that unsettle me (and some that I do find good). That is a player tell at best.

I did not realize that Andy had posted links...

There is 1405 posts you expected me to read each one carefully?

I rely on Meta and my understanding of players I have played with before, town hunt as well as scum hunt, use PoE, look for logic and patterns, and am a big picture sort of person.

So far I have not yet found enough to have super solid reads on several players, because I am genuinely not sure. I had Andy as leaning scum, partly because his play here is different in some ways from his play in the first Xeno game. I was not setting B n B up for blame, I was adding their read on Andy into my read and it was enough to tip the scales to make a vote.

I am well aware that it is possible for town to be wrong on a read, I certainly have been wrong on reads many times. I certainly would not blame B n B if they turned out to be wrong on a read...

Pedit Well then you are somewhat different then, many people are more careful with their play as scum than as town.

This push on Rach is bad and should feel bad

In post 1398, Sound of Silence wrote:fery told me that syry wanted to talk with me

HI giffy. Syr and you seem to have exactly opposite time zones, but feel free to ask him questions if you want to and I'll ask him what he wants answered when he's here for once.



Regarding 1404 Rach is correct in that many of us share hydrae between other heads. For example, we have a three-way cycle between myself, syr, and ffery.

Syr-ffery is Rift Adrift.
Syr-Cabd is Trust Fund.
Ffery-Cabd is Morph the Cat.

If you mix in nacho and some of the other hydra-loving players, things can get a bit confusing.

That said, Mac, that vote....

In post 1407, notscience wrote:is bad and should feel bad

In post 1406, RachMarie wrote:There is 1405 posts you expected me to read each one carefully?

I expect you to actually read the game and discern what is important in certain posts there. Of course there's a decent amount of fluff. But you are making it sound like there is a lot more than there really is. There is a ton of information to be had, and you must not be having it.

I rely on Meta and my understanding of players I have played with before, town hunt as well as scum hunt, use PoE, look for logic and patterns, and am a big picture sort of person.

1400 posts in 1 day phase is a pretty big picture.

So far I have not yet found enough to have super solid reads on any player but the most well known one who I happen to have a lot of meta on,

because I am genuinely not sure. I had Andy as leaning scum, partly because his play here is different in some ways from his play in the first Xeno game. I was not setting B n B up for blame, I was adding their read on Andy into my read and it was enough to tip the scales to make a vote.

FTFY. Take a stance, and read the posts. Formulate cases based on what's in the game.

Pedit Well then you are somewhat different then, many people are more careful with their play as scum than as town.

I know a few. Took a skim through your meta, by the by, and noticed that apart from being more active, there isn't much of a difference.

notscience wrote:This push on Rach is bad and should feel bad

Remind me of the push you're making. Oh, you're not making one?

Btw, if rach does end up being scum, her buddies are all listed in her town reads section. Just saying. 3/3 on that being the case.

I'm trying to get Andy lynched

He has not posted in like a day

You are pushing a wagon on someone that is A) null and b) Will not gai nany information whatsoever.

Pedit- DAMNIT CABD NOW THAT YOU SAY THAT SHE WONT DO THAT

That said rachie, you owe me a better reads list than that. Why is nacho leaning town? WHy does it need more syr for you to read my hydra, when like syr made a shitton of posts today? You've obv missed all of his posts, so here's a handy link to a syrlicious set of posts, follow the ISO down until I got back. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5225505

Start at ISO 122 and go until ISO 151

In post 1411, Trust Fund wrote:Btw, if rach does end up being scum, her buddies are all listed in her town reads section. Just saying. 3/3 on that being the case.

Cabd

That might be why

I still want Andy first

In post 1412, notscience wrote:DAMNIT CABD NOW THAT YOU SAY THAT SHE WONT DO THAT

She already posted her reads list, I waited until then.

In post 1412, notscience wrote:I'm trying to get Andy lynched

He has not posted in like a day

There's a difference between putting your vote in someone and being proactive with that lynch. As far as I can tell, you're the former.

You are pushing a wagon on someone that is A) null and b) Will not gai nany information whatsoever.

She's scum as far as I, and 5 other people, are concerned.

gotta love how everyone is ignoring our conf town.

Seriously

you guys are the best.

In post 1417, Malakittens wrote:gotta love how everyone is ignoring our conf town.

Seriously

you guys are the best.

No me. Syr might be mad at ns (well until he forgave him earlier) but you don't see me ignoring him.

Yo Thez

Let me tell you a little secret

that's not enough to vote nor will you get enough

Cabd, what do you think the odds are if Nacho flips scum that Rach is too? Given his naked vote on her and her townread?

I'm actually talking about all the other players in general.

There is another reason for Andy being scum hello we should listen to Notty hes a conf town PR duh...

Everyone ignoring me hasn't played with me before (with the exception of Syr but I think that changed)

EBWOP-

Rach that doesn't mean I know all the scum

I'm still the same person

In post 1419, notscience wrote:that's not enough to vote nor will you get enough

What isn't enough to vote?