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Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:07 am
by Nachomamma8
Why do you have a strong townread on Prohawk?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:10 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1227, Yulia Jue wrote:
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.
Minami no Hana (2):mykonian, ProHawk(L-5)
The Rufflig (2):MafiaSSK, Tammy (L-5)
Nachomamma8 (1): pitoli, (L-6)
MafiaSSK (7): orcinus_theoriginal, TheFuzzylogic99, Mac, Nachomamma8, The Rufflig, Minami no Hana, Kazekirimaru (LYNCH)
Not Voting (1): Deacon Blues
Upon review, we're extending the deadline by 24 hours to account for site downtime the past few days.
Absolute deadline falls on Wednesday, December 18th, at 4PM GMT -7.
This is in (expired on 2013-12-19 16:00:00)
Since a lynch has been reached, the remaining 42 hours as of the hammer post have been added to Day 2's deadline.
First of all, there was scum on the MafiaSSK wagon. This is a bit of a crazy spoiler alert, but I think it might be Kaze. It doesn't make any fucking sense for there to be a player that confirms you, a role that pretty much confirms itself as town ANYWAYS, and the "I get my alignment confirmed" claim gives motive to Kaze claiming as early as he did.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:11 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 1401, Nachomamma8 wrote: In post 1227, Yulia Jue wrote:
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.
Minami no Hana (2):mykonian, ProHawk(L-5)
The Rufflig (2):MafiaSSK, Tammy (L-5)
Nachomamma8 (1): pitoli, (L-6)
MafiaSSK (7): orcinus_theoriginal, TheFuzzylogic99, Mac, Nachomamma8, The Rufflig, Minami no Hana, Kazekirimaru (LYNCH)
Not Voting (1): Deacon Blues
Upon review, we're extending the deadline by 24 hours to account for site downtime the past few days.
Absolute deadline falls on Wednesday, December 18th, at 4PM GMT -7.
This is in (expired on 2013-12-19 16:00:00)
Since a lynch has been reached, the remaining 42 hours as of the hammer post have been added to Day 2's deadline.
First of all, there was scum on the MafiaSSK wagon. This is a bit of a crazy spoiler alert, but I think it might be Kaze. It doesn't make any fucking sense for there to be a player that confirms you, a role that pretty much confirms itself as town ANYWAYS, and the "I get my alignment confirmed" claim gives motive to Kaze claiming as early as he did.
varsoon factor
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:13 am
by Nachomamma8
I also might be coming around to the possibility of myko being scum. Mara explosion was about her interaction with Rufflig and her not being shitty as scum, which I doubt would be an explosion if Rufflig and her were buddies (and holy shit, all of the sudden they aren't). I have been reading myko posts with Mara being town already being in my mind, so I might be biased there and can't really read myko on the forums worth a shit anyways. If Kaze is scum, I doubt Prohawk would point out the possibility of him being scum and I basically doubt a lot of the pushes he's made this game.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:16 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
I get this overwhelming sense of transparency in his posting and a sense that he's actually trying to figure shit out
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:17 am
by Nachomamma8
What do you mean by Varsoon factor?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:20 am
by Nachomamma8
I also don't understand why I was so scummy yesterday and now I'm town enough to be in your top townreads :/
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:22 am
by Nachomamma8
What the hell is a Necromancer??? I would be confident in breaking the game open if only I knew what the hell a Necromancer was.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:22 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
i read that post wrong sorry i read "it makes no sense for kaze to claim the way he did"
ummm
is he scum claim aside?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:25 am
by Nachomamma8
I don't know, I'm going to look into that now.
I think that if anyone has anything to do with with the Anises beloved thing, they should claim now. I thought that it was from fferybork role (see baby I didn't forget you, I'll be with you soon) and it determined if the person was the same alignment as a dead player, so limited ability to crumb after death. That would make for limited crumbling after death, and would explain why the role went unexplained.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:25 am
by pitoli
In post 1406, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I also don't understand why I was so scummy yesterday and now I'm town enough to be in your top townreads :/
You seem more aggressive/willing to rock the boat today, which is more consistent with the idea I have of you.
What can I say, I've seen the light
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:31 am
by Nachomamma8
He could be scum, but there's nothing particularly damning in his ISO quite yet: only weird thing is myko-Kaze interactions which have them cross tunneling for a little while, then Kaze has his lynch pool as me+two of his scumbuddies at one point, then later his two scumbuddies drop out of his scumlist and he has two new consensus reads to replace them.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:32 am
by Nachomamma8
I would also like SakuraGiF to full claim because then it might clear things up a bit.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:34 am
by orcinus_theoriginal
In post 1412, Nachomamma8 wrote:I would also like SakuraGiF to full claim because then it might clear things up a bit.
Not yet please.
Nachomamma8 wrote:He could be scum, but there's nothing particularly damning in his ISO quite yet: only weird thing is myko-Kaze interactions which have them cross tunneling for a little while, then Kaze has his lynch pool as me+two of his scumbuddies at one point, then later his two scumbuddies drop out of his scumlist and he has two new consensus reads to replace them.
I was actually just reading over that and was thinking to myself "hmmm is this myko/nacho trying to find someone to go after because really and truly with all these claims they do need a target"
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:37 am
by Nachomamma8
My paranoid om Sakura-GiF is probably shittier than my paranoia on Kaze, so I suppose full claiming isn't a big deal.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:38 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 1413, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: In post 1412, Nachomamma8 wrote:I would also like SakuraGiF to full claim because then it might clear things up a bit.
Not yet please.
Nachomamma8 wrote:He could be scum, but there's nothing particularly damning in his ISO quite yet: only weird thing is myko-Kaze interactions which have them cross tunneling for a little while, then Kaze has his lynch pool as me+two of his scumbuddies at one point, then later his two scumbuddies drop out of his scumlist and he has two new consensus reads to replace them.
I was actually just reading over that and was thinking to myself "hmmm is this myko/nacho trying to find someone to go after because really and truly with all these claims they do need a target"
I would be in a pretty horrible position if scum, yeah. What do you think of my point that it makes no sense to confirm a day vig as town?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:41 am
by Nachomamma8
PITOLI
who do you think is scum?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:45 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 32, Kazekirimaru wrote:Fuzzylogic is town.
Right, Fuzzylogic? You got yourself a nice blue townie PM, right?
Reaction test seemed pretty decent, slight townread on it.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:46 am
by Nachomamma8
Also orcinus if you don't post I'm going to spam the fuck out of this thread and not even feel a tiny bit guilty about it
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:47 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 64, Ms Marangal wrote:No fair
I hate you all.
Kaze, Orci, town
Tammy-town?
VOTE: Fuzzy
FOS: Decon Blue
Hi, Ffery who's you're partner?
Am I stupid to be paranoid of Mara calling Kaze and Orci her first confident townreads? Probably.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:49 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 79, Kazekirimaru wrote:You're town
fferybork leans scum kinda maybe
Mac leans scum
I'm inclined to read Mara as town for reading people in a similar fashion
Early townread on Mara for no actual reason.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:50 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 96, Kazekirimaru wrote:I suppose I just plain disagree.
It seems blatantly obvious to me that all of fuzzy's posts have been made with the express purpose of defending himself and not estranging any potential allies in the process. I think he's scum. And I'm starting to think I'm looking at scumffery, as well. I've seen you spin meta to make it look how you want- you did it to my posts in Newbie 1436 when we were scum. It's very solid-looking on the surface, but it all falls apart when you realize how much of it is subjective opinion and how it doesn't make sense when the individual posts are taken in context of their respective situations. I'm getting that same feeling here.
Comparing his past Scum meta to this game and giving him a pass for not being hedgy or calculated when he hasn't even taken stances(or lack of stances) on anyone yet just feels off. You're making comparisons where they're not applicable.
Tunneling the hell out of fuzzy is no big deal, but paranoia on ffery seems to be a pretty odd position for scumKaze to take.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:53 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 118, pitoli wrote:it's late and my brain is not working. The reason I don't feel great about comparing the two things:
ffery's answering for fuzzylogic serves to protect fuzzylogic
kaze's answering for orci (that didn't even friggin happen) serves to protect himself
Anyways to answer your original question, early on I liked Ffery's thoughts on why the "blue" test was bad because I had the exact same thoughts. Same thoughts as me = same alignment as me? Good enough for me right now. but who knows, her other head could come here and bork things up (sorry not sorry.)
I was going to call Kaze scum before since I had a bad knee-jerk reaction to his test, but I think I'm kind of cooling on that idea and I'm hoping he shows signs of listening to reason soon.
okay really sleep now.
I don't understand why pitoli wouldn't just vote Kaze if she didn't like his test and found it scummy. I guess she probably has a passive meta that I'm forgetting about, but too lazy and tired and delirious to look that up now.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:57 am
by Nachomamma8
Will note that Kaze trajectory on Fuzzy is kind of screwed up; he started out tunneling him and convinced he was scum, attacked ffery a bit, then was like "well ok you're probably right" and then went to voting randomly for a little while.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:02 am
by Nachomamma8
In post 486, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 481, Deacon Blues wrote:
Kaze please talk to me about Orci - you've been hard defending him all game for reasons that aren't clear to me and I want to know what you're seeing.
Because I'm
Natalia Luzu Kimlasca-Lanvaldear
,
Town-Aligned Stalker
. I have quite the thing for Orc's role, apparently, and as such I've stalked him and know his rolename(which I shan't reveal) and alignment. Orc doesn't know this, though, as far as my role indicates.
Oh, and if Orc gets lynched I get mod-confirmed for some reason.
Kay?
Out came the moment someone asked him about it, which is a bit odd considering his play as Conditional ICizer in AA. I wouldn't think he would be happy to out an innocent so early as town. And I still don't see why there would be a town role that clears a town day vig; it's essentially useless. I could see a scum role that has him tied to a town PR, though.