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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:52 pm

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As far as gameplay goes this game, I thought town was going to steamroll after the SK lynch day 1. Taking that extra NK out before it had a chance to shoot was pretty clutch, and I thought it would be easy from there.

Boy was I wrong.

Basically, town got fucked over by reliance on PRs and reactions to PRs instead of old-fashioned scum hunting. Both protective PRs outing themselves put town from an overwhelmingly strong position to an overwhelmingly weak one, especially since the JK-"guilty" is marginal at best. This is especially true after the SK flip, which should have strongly implied at least 2 ways for town to avoid kills. Scum were playing reasonably well too, up until Titus claimed miller, since I've pretty publicly stated that I think millers are terrible roles that shouldn't exist. From there, the cop-guilty on jiffy was a kind of dumb move; Rach, Espe, and Mhork would have all been more believable, and the fallout from that gambit cost scum the game.

As far as setup goes, it was 9:3:1 with the power being Doc/JK/Tracker/IC:1-shot Strongwoman/RB:1-shot BP. There were two objectives that I had in designing this setup:

1) The setup had to have an SK, because flavor.
2) I wanted the setup to, despite the SK, still emphasize strong day play.

The first point just required me to make sure town had a metric fuckton of power. The extra NK hurts the town a lot more than it hurts the scum team, so I had to balance around that. With the second point, I knew that giving town 2 defensive PRs of any kind was minimally required, and with this goal I decided to go pretty full-out in giving town defensive options (Compare this to AP's game, where town got a 1-shot commuter, a RB, and a JK to dodge kills). I also made the investigative PR one that would potentially get a lot of unreliable results, and the IC was added to give town a bit less pressure during the day phase. In retrospect, town was probably a little overpowered, and I think that if I were to go back and design the setup again, I would make Kate a JOAT with a 1-shot Rolecop as well.

Overall, I think this was a decent game, early activity issues notwithstanding. I'm considering changing my activity rules; I had to send out a lot of prods this game, so maybe I should slow down my rotation? I'm afraid that would kill activity further, since my games are 2/2 in terms of being lurkfests early.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:56 pm

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Also, I'm working on a large theme game for Teen Wolf Season 2! PM me if you want to pre-in.

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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:16 pm

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wooohooo~~~

I enjoyed watching this... Kinda, and I don't know how anyone didn't catch titus slot prior to miller claim... like, she was so obv scum
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:21 pm

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and afterwards... especially afterwards
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:41 pm

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Such throws.

Well, we tried.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:44 pm

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But I did catch ;~;
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:50 pm

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I really do think Majiffy's Zek case was pretty silly, though.
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:49 pm

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WOOT we won. I guess I should listen to my gut more. More later when I am not on my kindle fire.

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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:43 pm

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yea! Gratz to the town! This was enjoyable for me to play in. Thanks to the mod for the game, and thanks to PA for the Hydra :)
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:55 am

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In post 1402, Ms Marangal wrote:I don't know how anyone didn't catch titus slot prior to miller claim..
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In post 1406, Iecerint wrote:I really do think Majiffy's Zek case was pretty silly, though.
Pfft, a scumslip is a scumslip is a scumslip.

Even if it's a dumb one.

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to explain to me why you guys thought it was a good idea for your least-suspected team member to try to run a fake guilty report on me of all people at MYLO.

Like seriously. :cool:
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:56 am

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I would have accepted and probably sheeped you on a guilty report on Rach or Espe. Definitely not Mhork though.
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:37 am

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God damn it. So close on this one.

Orc, I was setting up universal miller...
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:47 am

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yeah I really do need to find a good hydra partner and learn how to be less of a lynchbait :(

We might have lost had Orc gone with that fake cop claim on me
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:18 pm

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Hurray town!

Thanks BRO.

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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:20 pm

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That was a roller coaster ride of a game. With a tracker-IC, I don't know that I'd have gone with the cop result at MyLo, especially with BRO's miller-cop opinions being on record. (I felt it would have been dirty pool to point those out to the game thread...)

Being an IC was interesting. We probably played it too conservative, but I think my favorite part of the game was where Titus warned us about people who would kiss up to us as confirmed town...and then complimented our playing of the role.

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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:23 pm

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In post 1409, Majiffy wrote:Orci you have
got
to explain to me why you guys thought it was a good idea for your least-suspected team member to try to run a fake guilty report on me of all people at MYLO.

Like seriously. :cool:
We didn't think that; I told him that his flavor (Sheriff Stilinski) fit with investigative, but to be careful of another nerfed investigative role in the set-up. It was intended as a "here's info about your massclaim options"-type information.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:58 am

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And yet
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:39 am

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PA you did fine most of the time I see Inno Child being played as a FU town I don't need to help out cause I am confirmed town. It bugged me both as town and scum, oddly enough lol. Voided really lost his temper when we were scum budz and dealing with this dude who was really bad about not helping the town and clinging to his status as confirmed town.
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:31 am

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Orci's not gonna show his face 'round these here parts no more?
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:35 am

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/vote: Majiffy
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:05 am

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In post 1419, AngryPidgeon wrote:
/vote: Majiffy
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:30 am

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Obligatory second version of "If you want to pre-in Teen Wolf Season 2 Mafia," pm me.

It'll be a 15p game of awesomeness.
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:34 am

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