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Posted: **Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:05 am**

Oak's Notes

Beedrill

The Poison Bee Pokémon

Bug

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Poision

Pokédex Information

Flies at high speed and attacks using its large venomous stingers on its forelegs and tail.

Vote Count 3.08

Flames682(0):

Bert(0):

vettrock(0):

Seohyun(1):

Bert

Boonskiies(2):

Flames682, vettrock

pieguyn(0):

Formerfish(0):

TierShift(0):

Not Voting(4):

Seohyun, pieguyn, Tiershift, Boonskiies

With eight alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline:

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2015-03-12 13:20:00).

Posted: **Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:57 pm**

I don't have new input, but I do think those without votes down, should put their votes somewhere. I've posted my thoughts, and am open to further questions.

Posted: **Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:01 pm**

↑ Bert wrote:
↑ Boonskiies wrote:Boon
Flames
Bert/Fish
Seo
Pie
Tier
Vett

is my town to scum read list. skimmed over ISO's. Subject to change when I figure out more of this game.

in comparison with

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p6504335

hey boon im looking for something like this

I can do this when I get sometime on my computer sometime this weekend. That game was a little different because I randomly started reading it and new scum was controlling a mislynch, so I replaced in knowing something was off.

Posted: **Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:54 pm**

VOTE: flames

I think that bert, pieguyn, tiershift are town right now, boonskiies leanish town
unsure about vettrock, though maybe his insistence of putting votes down is town-ish?
Somehow leaves only one person I'm not sorta townreading, so my vote goes there

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:45 am**

Why do you see insistence to put down votes as town? I have an opposed opinion on that which I will elaborate on after you answer.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:57 pm**

dodge. should be around later today

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:01 pm**

↑ TierShift wrote:wisdom's pushes feel pretty genuine, he was on notmaf first basically all the time but gets distracted by shinier things such as micc and me. He's consistently wanted notmaf dead and I think that if he were doing this as scum he'd just hard bus day 1 and get all the credits instead of this soft bussing that eventually contributes to his lynch.
Then again the 'remind me to blacklist you postgame' is really, really weird.

Boon's play always is chaotic, but I feel it's rather geared to scm survival than to town figuring things out chaoticly here.

So it's weird: I've never had this large a townread on wisdom, but I still think the slot might very well be scum. In my earlier evaluation, I didn't really take day 3 play into account a great deal.

I think I want to pursue flames today, that scumread is a lot more substantial.

at this point, I want to go for Flames too. he's pretty much the only person in here I haven't town read in any way.

I get the impression Boon for whatever reason thinks it's a good idea to play in a survivalistic way as town when pressured, as opposed to doing anything a town player would actually do. however, I don't have any experience to back this up. he pulled this shit when I was scum with him and we had ppl saying it was his town meta and that his posts were "oozing town motivation", though, sooooooooooo /shrug

my strategy with reading his slot is to just ignore everything he's doing. as long as I have compelling reason based on Wisdom's posts, I don't really care.

vote: Flames

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:16 pm**

also I want ppl scum reading Boon-slot to give me their thoughts on 1363. for reference these were the games I looked at:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=59485
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60046

I didn't check that many, so I might be wrong here. interested in knowing what ppl think

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:40 pm**

VOTE: flames

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:41 pm**

I'm here. After I get my top priority (non mafia related) done tonight I will be here!! Ahh! Bah humbug!

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:01 pm**

I can support flames. He was my pick before Boon started scumming it up.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:02 pm**

VOTE: Flames

Looks like this is L-1.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:04 pm**

Claim time.

I'm a tracker.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:08 pm**

I even had these posts:

↑ Flames682 wrote:
↑ Formerfish wrote:so maybe it was you

Unless Seo also has the ability Recover then no

↑ Flames682 wrote:Seo what did you do last night

I targeted seo N2 and he targeted no one, unless he did indeed have the ability recover like NM did. I have a limited amount of tracks so I did not target anyone N1 (I also had no idea who to target). I will not give out the shots of track that I have.

I would still prefer a vettrock or Boon lynch

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:10 pm**

Pie did u read this game?

unvote

Because players can lol hammer

Back later

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:13 pm**

↑ Flames682 wrote:
↑ Formerfish wrote:so maybe it was you

Unless Seo also has the ability Recover then no

↑ Flames682 wrote:Seo what did you do last night

↑ vettrock wrote:
↑ Flames682 wrote:@vetttrock I'm scum because at that point I did not believe NM to be scum?

It is not really scummy behavior, but more of a POE. It is difficult to grasp everything after reading 45 pages at once. You and Seo are the two that are still alive that were not voting NM. Looking at the recent behavior, I think Seo is the more probable than you.

Like Bert said afterwards, it is possible that both scum were on the wagon, I just don't see it as very likely, but if you are going to bus to the point of lynching, may as well have both get the towncred. So that would be an argument against my analysis.

I'm open to input from others, but those are my initial opinions.

It's interesting to note that vettrock's only case on me is that I was NM's scumbuddy and didn't bus him.

↑ vettrock wrote:It is not really scummy behavior, but more of a POE. It is difficult to grasp everything after reading 45 pages at once. You and Seo are the two that are still alive that were not voting NM. Looking at the recent behavior, I think Seo is the more probable than you.

AND he said that he thought that Seo was more probable than me for scum but once others started stating their scumreads on me he switched over.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:13 pm**

God what the hell was that.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:14 pm**

Ignore the fail quotes in 1415

↑ vettrock wrote:
↑ Flames682 wrote:@vetttrock I'm scum because at that point I did not believe NM to be scum?

It is not really scummy behavior, but more of a POE. It is difficult to grasp everything after reading 45 pages at once. You and Seo are the two that are still alive that were not voting NM. Looking at the recent behavior, I think Seo is the more probable than you.

Like Bert said afterwards, it is possible that both scum were on the wagon, I just don't see it as very likely, but if you are going to bus to the point of lynching, may as well have both get the towncred. So that would be an argument against my analysis.

I'm open to input from others, but those are my initial opinions.

It's interesting to note that vettrock's only case on me is that I was NM's scumbuddy and didn't bus him.

↑ vettrock wrote:It is not really scummy behavior, but more of a POE. It is difficult to grasp everything after reading 45 pages at once. You and Seo are the two that are still alive that were not voting NM. Looking at the recent behavior, I think Seo is the more probable than you.

AND he said that he thought that Seo was more probable than me for scum but once others started stating their scumreads on me he switched over.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:26 pm**

My reaction is

'So that's why he mighta been mightie careful about not being scummy"

Yeh I had no thought cross my mind of you being a potential pr

So now both players who have had the most pressure today, in their words when under pressure (sometimes those words can be the most clearly thought in a weird way), have continued to push Vettrock as a scumread

I am missing something and will look back

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:39 pm**

↑ Bert wrote:My reaction is

'So that's why he mighta been mightie careful about not being scummy"

Yeh I had no thought cross my mind of you being a potential pr

So now both players who have had the most pressure today, in their words when under pressure (sometimes those words can be the most clearly thought in a weird way), have continued to push Vettrock as a scumread

I am missing something and will look back

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

I still like Boon over flames, but that is what we have. We have time, so I probably should have waited before moving me vote back.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:52 pm**

I meant I am [clearly] missing something about why you're scummy to them, and so I am going to look back and see what they are saying about why you are scummy. Scummy enough that both players when under pressure have said your name as The scumread at the top of their list (from what I recall).

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:06 pm**

↑ vettrock wrote:I still like Boon over flames, but that is what we have. We have time, so I probably should have waited before moving me vote back.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:53 pm**

↑ Formerfish wrote:Why do you see insistence to put down votes as town? I have an opposed opinion on that which I will elaborate on after you answer.

If no one puts votes down then we can't really analyze any wagons. If it was lylo or something then I could see wanting to refrain from putting down votes as scum could quickhammer, but I think that putting down a vote where you say you want instead of just talking about who's scum is beneficial.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:04 pm**

I think that it could be beneficial for scum to have people put down votes because it allows them to be able to push a mislynch where they think they are able to. Like if they get caught up saying that X is scum, and then no one wants to push that way for a lynch they are caught up and would look awkward backing off the read. But if 3 people are already voting for Y then it makes it easier to come up with reasoning for Y to be scum and then push that wagon to mislynch.

Posted: **Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:47 pm**

↑ Bert wrote:Pie did u read this game?

nope

↑ Flames682 wrote:It's interesting to note that vettrock's only case on me is that I was NM's scumbuddy and didn't bus him.

I was about to ask you why you thought vettrock and Boon made sense as partners given their reads on each other, but I remembered Boon at the very least has a meta of always hard bussing his partners. -.-

who do you think the partner is if it's not Boon, and what do you think about my thoughts about the Wisdom/NM interactions (1363)?

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