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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:02 pm
by Grib
Cho wrote:...ok yeah I just skimmed the Mollie ISO and looks like Yukari already claimed it. nvm.

This is dumb I hate being a public vig.

pedit I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BUT IF I WERE SCUM I WOULDN'T BE A FUCKING IDIOT AND NOT CHECK MY PREDECESSOR'S ISO BEFORE EVEN MAKING A SINGLE POST UNLIKE WHAT YOUR DUMB POSTS KEEP INSINUATING LIKE DAMN. MY GOD. FUCK YOU. BYE


This was uncalled for and I expect an apology once you return.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:05 pm
by Cho
You're right, that was uncalled for. Oops! I just felt like caps yelling at you because anyone who thinks that "trick" ever actually works if the replaced slot is scum is seriously delusional. There's literally no way you can pull that off without being super blatant as if you're holding a flashing neon sign over your head saying "YOUR PREDECESSOR CLAIMED, ISO THEM QUICK".

Like I'm fucking obviously town, but it's laughable that you think that that had any chance of netting a guilty if I were scum.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:08 pm
by Cho
It's also one of those moves that's so easy for scum to do with easy townpoints and no potential downsides that I have to fight my instinctual urge to townread you for it.

Ugh clusterfuck sensors tingling. Skimming the last few pages in a bit but I am not looking forward to it.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:09 pm
by Grib
You actually aren't, and it's worked before, though the circumstances were different.

Anyway, talk to me once you've read things. The current rundown is that me, Tere, and ika are widely townread; Frogging Mollie is sorta mostly townread; Bookitty, ZZZX, and Bellaphant are the main lynch candidates. Your slot is questionable.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:13 pm
by Cho
Cool, don't care. Who's actually town?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:16 pm
by Grib
Tere, ika, and myself are all town and will never be lynched.

If you don't fire toNight, you will probably be lynched. Unless you act more town toDay and less...obnoxious.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:10 pm
by Cho
I'm obnoxious scum?

Lol.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:28 pm
by Grib
I said obnoxious, not obnoxious scum.

I'd like for your next post to be game-relevant, rather than another attempt to keep up this bravado you've got going on.

What are your initial impressions of the gamestate? What are your reasons for finding mollie's four posts scummy? Why are you voting someone over four posts in the first place?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:43 pm
by Frogging Mollie
cho

really

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:43 pm
by ika
Frogging Mollie wrote:also ika is posting elsewhere on site! fancy that.


dont you even start that fucking shit with me.

i dont give a fuck who posted that, dont you start that shit. thats the last thing i need from this god damn game is someon snipping at me like that

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:02 pm
by ika
Frogging Mollie wrote:
ika wrote:mollie, are you scum?

and if not i want to know why you are not. if you want to work with me now you have to realize im going to hard press you to your fullest as well


I am not scum and if you bothered to look at my posts I wld like to think you wld figure this out.

I am asking you about what you think about yukari's softclaim that led up to a hardclaim. what do you think of that?

grib is a higher town read than tere for me. 1 of the things that is freaking me out is how it seems you are avoiding zzthing which makes wonder cos I know you guys had a fantastic rapport in nightless and I am not seeing that this game or any attempt for you to work him out when I feel like town!you wld/shld be doing at this time.

so i am asking about zzthing too!


actualy i think quite the opposite atm mollie. i have been looking at your post and while i can see how you believed that im also at a point of many other things

its shitty and suboptimal and stupid. i honestly wouldnt be surprised if yukari is an sk who had no intrest about the game

im not avoiding him hes jsut being a non-existance person. when we had nightless we talked in skype and thats how we synce. here where we have post formats its not as easy. also we knew each other and had full intentions. it hard to work with people who do not post.

Grib wrote:Honestly, if Frogging Mollie busted out all that AtE and OoG attacks and shit to push one mislynch, I'd be incredibly disappointed. You don't threaten to blacklist someone or personally insult them to bully everyone into following your lead.

I want to give them the benefit of the doubt here.


if she did this as scum, i would be inclined to think she genuinlinely believed it outside of her alignment herself. that also ebing said if she is scum she will hear it from me.

i know if she did that as scum it was not ment to be a scum tactic and was probally more based on the nightless and outside of her alignment in general. but *shrugs*

Frogging Mollie wrote:
ika wrote:mollie, are you scum?

and if not i want to know why you are not. if you want to work with me now you have to realize im going to hard press you to your fullest as well


I think this is an obvs set up which is what (you pointed this which makes us lean town on you!) I am struggling with and why I am okay with our lynch. I am not doing a repeat of you cld be any1.

if you were going to hard press me, where did you go? and why are you asking me this question?

I am not getting the angle of where you are going with this when I have already commented on my thoughts on the pie nk choice? was there something specific that you did not understand?

cld you plz answer as to why you are staying away from zzthing?



work has priority

why pie over me? if that was answered i will iso it then if not i want to hear that

im not see above

Bellaphant wrote:
Is it possible Mollie was protected?



unless if your claimign to be the god damn doc who portected her plz jsut shut up about that idea. like im trying to keep myself in controll but im at the point of thinking you are doc who protected her and its drilling me a new one that you think that

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:03 pm
by ika
fuck reading the last 2 pages to respond im already cranky by responding

someone talk to me about the now

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:50 pm
by Fro99er
ika wrote:molie: why was pie killed over me?

I dn't fucking know also I'm drunk

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:01 pm
by Fro99er
ika wrote:mollie, are you scum?

and if not i want to know why you are not. if you want to work with me now you have to realize im going to hard press you to your fullest as well

Seriously Ika. I konw you can't blieve me yet (unless you're scum), but we're not fucking scum. iOur VT claim was TRUTH. I'm on V/LA traveling ffor work but Seriously. I'm wasted as shit but god fucking dammit Mollie is a hell of a scumhungter and i'm doing my fucking best to scumhunt as well. Otherwise I wouldn't put such a decent case on Yukari and townread singer slot and qfuck i'm drunk. I've probably singled out yukari too much but let's be honest he (the>y?) hve been scum as fuck and I'll do a better job when I'm not traveling drunk ass as I am now.

or were you expecting us to just roll over and say yrs we're sucm?

I love how you flip flop and turs tu su but then go into full on not trust us mode an d ask us to convince you. I fully admit after Metals' flip it makes us scummy as all hell but you know what we wouldn't have pushed that like that if it wasn't waht we believed AS A TEAM. There's nobody I'd rather play with than mollie. So we fucked up. We're all human. I haven't played a perfect game on this site ye4t.

i need to wake up tomorrow and seriously review some things. This has been a tough game, because I think some players have lurked out of attention.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:22 pm
by ika
Fro99er wrote:words


frogger, you dont seem to understand how much respect and how much i enjoy playing with mollie. i know shes a good scum hunter. ask her about HU2 and our hydra there.

she practicly shut me out from posting at one point. i have a lot of respect for her and fully enjoy playing with her. never, ever and i mean fuckign ever think that i would not try to ever think mollie as less.

frogger, when i was scum in spring waltz and i partnered with mollie who was confirmed town. i was eaten by fucking guilt every fucking day i was alive. so many fucking times i wanted to jsut call her up and shout at her "IM A FUCKIGN SCUM AND YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE DANCE AND IM SORRY"

like i dont think you realize the regards i hold to mollie. nobody does truthfully, i honestly dont even think mollie herself realizes it fully yet. but when you come in here with that shit to me. not even mollie would be able to stop em from unleashing agro rage on you.

the only reason im actualy rather calm with this atm is cus im tired and in a steamline mode. but let me make something clear frog, i dont underestimate mollie. but at the very same time you have to understand im a very resentful man to many and that when you pull shit like this to me, i will go into a barrage mode next time and mollie can tell you that its not something you want to be dealing with from me.

grib adn even tell you what happens when i sanp.

frogger ust do me a damn favor and plz dont talk to me right now. i do enjoy playing with you and would like to play more, however i know my own mentality and mindset and i do not want to unleash it on you.

when your sobered up we can chat maybe but right now i need people i feel like i can trust and right now with the who shit fest of vig vs VT my mind is in "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOIGN ON" and that im in paranoia shitfest and truthfully its not going to be sorted untill something gives. so trust me when i state right now all i need is time and not you poking at me.

i need sleep. im on the border of outrage and just idk....

tere when you get on plz talk to me. i need someone to ease me out and doesnt give me a paranoia shot.

mollie: can i plz have day 2 to myself so i can sort my thoguhts? much like how you sometimes give players room or i give you room, right now i need mine. i feel liek interacting with you at this point is just going to boil my emotions.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:15 pm
by Tere
Frogging mollie, you are town, ika, you are town. The best thing we can do here is ditch the paranoia wibbles and start from there.

C'mon. Group hug?

I am going to look at WNI's ISO again because I think her ISO was very good on the quieter people. Following a hunch on why she might be the kill (well that and it puts the heat on mollie of course)

Ika I need to get up and take a shower and stuff. We can synch later if you want? It must be 3 am where you are?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:16 pm
by Tere
I will coffee and stay up late if need be. Yay timezones! Warning, you may get drunkTere if this happens....

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:51 pm
by Frogging Mollie
I used to love playing mafia.

ika, I don't understand your rage I think it is highly disproportionate to anything directed to you. like there is no real valid reason to be raging at this point. yes I wanted to poke you cos there are dangling questions that have been left from previous posts and I have posted other questions since then. but if you need time then take it, but stop with your threats of raging when I don't see a reasonable to be raging at this point. I am a hair's breath away from quitting mafia altogether for a while simply because I am tired of the bs.

I was going to reach out to pie cos we have never made that connection and I have been town reading you so i do not feel like I shld have to work to establish a rapport with you it just naturally flows. I don't have that dynamic with pie but I was wanting to after I rethought about things and realized that I was picking up on hood tells not associative tells.

I am asking you as a friend to never put me in the position of having to take sides with my other friends. thanks.

so in other words get a grip.

in other news cho has not done 1 thing to town up that yukari slot.

in other news zzthing is not doing anything...at all. but since he has not posted we shld just ignore him by all means.

but in the meantime I feel like we shld just go over the many reasons as to why we shld be lynched. the irony of the situ greatly amuses me.

reasons to lynch us:

1. mollie did not catch scum on d1 so she must be scum.
2. mollie is scum cos she went after lynchbait metal!
3. mollie is scum cos supposedly in a world that does not exist metal can read mollie correctly.
3. in this same world mollie is scum cos she fears wni and that is why she nked them cos she thought she cld sneak past such clever clever town with her fantastic ruse of nking some1 who was suspicious of her.
4. mollie is never wrong so if she is wrong she must be scum.
5. mollie is scum for being mean.
6. mollie is scum for not being mean and reaching out to other players.
7. mollie is scum for bringing up oog stuff cos that isn't what metal did at all. nope. not at all.
8. mollie is scum thinking that elusive wld have picked up on the plato's the cave reference which is somehow an oog reference despite the analogy being quite apt.
9. mollie is scum cos she scumreads you and is trying to get you lynched.
10. mollie is scum cos she townreads you and obvsly she is trying to buddy you.
11. mollie is scum cos she has reads.
12. mollie is scum cos her reads aren't good enough.
13. mollie is scum cos metal and wni said so and they are much cleverer than her.
14. mollie is scum cos she is much cleverer than metal and wni and she knows how to manipulate town in order to get rid of the pple she seekritly fears.
15. mollie is scum cos cos she is still alive on d2.
16. mollie is scum cos ika is still alive on d2.
17. mollie is scum cos elusive wanted her dead cos elusive felt insulted.
18. mollie is scum cos mollie did not indulge in elusive's sql.
19. mollie is scum cos she said that she was not being passive aggressive but aggressively saying that she refused to do the sql.
20. mollie is scum cos none of her scumbuddies have been lynched yet.
21. mollie is scum cos its mollie and so therefore must be scum.
22. mollie is scum cos she is covering for her hydra partner and she is obvsly the better scum player.
23. mollie is scum cos she is not covering for her hydra partner enough.
24. mollie is scum cos she hates playing scum.
25. mollie is scum cos she loves playing scum and is just trying to troll you.
26. mollie is scum cos she didn't die.
27. mollie is scum cos why is she still alive.
28. mollie is scum cos she said she wasn't scum so it must mean she is trying to outsmart you.
29. mollie is scum cos of aTe.
30. mollie is scum cos she with her clever wiles got metal to post oog content and jumped on it when it cld not have been accurate at the time.

I think there are at least 20 more that have been tossed around. I mean i cannot wait for what will come if we actually manage to lynch scum instead of us.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:54 pm
by Tere
Frogging Mollie wrote:okay so tere

the reason you don't like the zzthing lynch is the speed of the wagon?

for some1 who has said that they wanna talk to me you sure as hell are not doing it!

also wld you mind explaining what you mean by you are wondering about cos of a hangover for elusive? cos elusive was voting me cos she did not like me
NOT
cos she was scumreading me and she said this so wld you mind walking me through this?


I am anti any fucking flashwagon right now. We've come out of a town v town shit fest. The game needs breathing space and time for everyone to contribute. I don't want to stop the flow of conversation.

You are weirding me out a little because I feel you should be town reading me strongly and you didn't seem to be? However although this gives me emotional conniptions I reckon it shows you are def town and you are just being paranoid because scum you would have cuddled up to me and stroked my hair and whispered sweet nothings in my ear right now.

I need to deal with [redacted] today but will try and hang out so we can synch later on my evening, OK?

Also stop freaking out about ika k thanks <3

I liked Frogger's drunkposting too :)

p-edit I see you, how long you got?

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:55 pm
by Tere
Quit that. We are not derp lynching you.

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:56 pm
by Tere
ZZZX wrote:Scum
Bellaphant << Extreme Gut scum read, also putting someone at l1 without announcing it is something scum does way too often from my personal experiance
Bookitty << scum for reasons I already explainedbefore including how engaged town kitty was.
Yukari << I feel he might eb twon but didnt like most of his posts since long ago
Grib << Just another guy pushing me for "poe" without even going how he got it..
Frogging Mollie << DIdnt like early attacks on sonic. I foudn it as if trying to get rid of future dangers (since sonic reads mollie decently i believe)
Hydrangea << null, Must read
dragonspawn << liked singer's posts mostly. Cant think of much about thsi guy yet. Needs more reading
elusive (tere now) is town. I had a slight town read on elusive and I find teres posts pretty much with good intentions. This is town
ika << I think that is town ika. Didnt see much of ika's scum game but I believe he is too carefree for scum
ZZZX
Town

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=55485 << read this if u still think im scum

p-edit: I hated the post you did to push me to l2 for no reason. And if u asked me who would i want to get lynched at that stage if I didnt skim the thread that'd be you. But well after skiming it appears you are more null/towny that my initial thoughts anyway.

pp-edit: Not buying that post bella. totally not buying it. VOTE: Bella

Anyway I can finally sleep in peace..


Z, I think you missed off your read on Plum, could you elaborate? It was Plum who pushed you to L-2 BTW, if you think it was Grib.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:05 am
by Tere
Mollie have a hug, I will go get a coffee and then I will be about.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:06 am
by Tere
I agree re Cho BTW.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:30 am
by Tere
Oh, I didn't get any fruit last night.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:53 am
by Frogging Mollie
Tere wrote:I am anti any fucking flashwagon right now. We've come out of a town v town shit fest. The game needs breathing space and time for everyone to contribute. I don't want to stop the flow of conversation.

You are weirding me out a little because I feel you should be town reading me strongly and you didn't seem to be?
However although this gives me emotional conniptions I reckon it shows you are def town and you are just being paranoid because scum you would have cuddled up to me and stroked my hair and whispered sweet nothings in my ear right now.

I need to deal with [redacted] today but will try and hang out so we can synch later on my evening, OK?

Also stop freaking out about ika k thanks <3

I liked Frogger's drunkposting too :)

p-edit I see you, how long you got?


yes, I can see how you might be confused by the many times I have called your slot town.

I don't particularly give a flying fuck is town or not at this point him threatening my hydra partner is fucking not okay with me. ika's little temper tantrum only managed to piss me off and guarantee that unless it is invitational I will not be playing mafia for quite some time.

the whining about lynching town on d1 is not okay with me cos sometimes it happens yet pple are treating it as if 3 eyed fish are somehow more common. oh yeah it is somehow entirely my fault.

sorry tere but I DID TRY TO REACH OUT TO YOU OUT OF SHEER DESPERATION TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL EXCHANGE WITH AN ADULT .

what metal did was shitty but somehow in other pple's minds it isn't so by all means lets blame mollie for it and decide that she is the shitty 1 even tho he was not telling the truth about what really happened, a cple of pple have pointed out that he was not telling the truth but hey LETS FUCKING BLAME MOLLIE.